ok, does anyone have particular tracks that sound similar to the ones i posted above? if you have test tracks, share them here! |
Just play the entire First Side (3 songs) of Dire Straits "Making Movies" album. Probably the best produced album at that time and a perfect album side. |
Mrdecibel, could’nt agree more on your ´Tin Pan Alley’ track. Gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it. |
Thanks riaa dasign, who sings that song ? |
SRV or Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble is the artist.Texas Flood is the album |
WC, the track is on the album 'The Real Deal: Greatest Hits Volume 1' on Tidal. |
WC, here are my favorite test tracks. These are identified by track/artist/album and are all available on Tidal. I have diverse musical taste and sorted things out in order by mood, ambient up to techno:
Music Box/The Cinematic Orchestra/Ma Fleur Notes Falling Slow/Cowboy Junkies/
Notes Falling Slow
Shortline/Ry X/Dawn Everything Disappears/Thomas Stronen/Time is a Blind Guide So/The Range/Potential Crisis/Anohni/Hopelesness Deadman/Shackleton/Deadman NY is Killing Me/Jamie XX/We're New Here
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Dasign, you hit a home run with that song... |
It does not show up on my 'Texas Flood' album. Maybe robertrs has a different version. |
Tin Pan Alley also appears on " Couldn’t Stand The Weather ", which was released 1 year later after Texas Flood. The Texas Flood version was recorded live. The version I am referring too is the Studio version, recorded and done in 1 take, but with much higher resolution, that made this one, heralded as the " one to play ", showing off systems and such. |
Bireli Lagrene.......”More”.......is absolutely marvelous You can clearly hear the delicate guitar bends, slides and harmonics of the instrument.
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WC, I get no credit ?, as I brought it up 1st. I should has specified the version of TPA on " Couldn’t Stand the Weather ", as this version of Tin Pan Alley, since it’s release in mid 1984, has been a standard of every audiophile, even many with a greater interest with classical music. And yes, it shows up on SRV greatest hits releases. |
I thank you too... sorry hahah i would like to begin to write my will and make sure I am buried with these components. I don’t think the casket can accommodate these amps though. :)
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@whitecamaross Guys I actually sent it to him months ago. It was in The Ayon Audio Sampler disc.It is absolutely one of the best IMO. It has : Domination by Peace Orchestra Tin Pan Alley- Stevie Ray Vaughan Bela Fleck-Flight of The Cosmic Hippo My Battle-- Andrea Houston Walking On The Moon --Yuri Honing Trio Bessame Mama-- Poncho Sanchez Suitcase-- Keb’ Mo Fink--See It All and many more but those right there are some Great Demo songs I find that the old group WAR had some great recordings .Especially "The World is a Ghetto" Album |
grey9hound PM sent. Happy Listening!
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So now, WC can compare the streaming version and the cd version of SRV's TPA, and give us his thoughts on that comparison. greyhound...very familiar with each song in your line up, and I have to agree, all spectacular. Yuri Honing Trio is awesome ! |
I need to dig up those cds greyhound. |
I also sent some Bela Fleck and Keb’ Mo Cds Both pretty good for demoing equipment I might have sent some Poncho Sanchez, if not I should have |
If there’s a better sounding song than Tin Pan Alley or similar, please share it. That song is INSANE |
You don't say. Did not know that, lol. Enjoy ! |
The War Album I am talking about was actually the 40th Anniversary Expanded Edition "The World Is a Ghetto" done in 2012.
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Damn WCSS, You might want to re-visit some of the ones I sent .. ..LOL I know that they are not all demo material, but several were. I guess , in your defense, I did not send song titles or cd insert with that info .. I should have listed what was on that Ayon one. You are gonna have to Shazam that cd to find the Artist and songs,... sorry. |
A real sleeper so to speak(no pun intended) is ZZ-Top-"Asleep in the Desert" It is an Instrumental. If you have not heard it , you would not know that it is ZZ-Top |
I am going to revisit every single Type of song. This new front end has me wanting to listen to everything and that’s a great feeling. The amps sounded good 2 days ago but I don’t know what happened because today the sound has me hypnotized to say the least. It’s a drastic difference.
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Blues Is A Feeling - Blues Company,From Daybreak to Heartbreak Crying - James Blood Ulmer Live Experience Three O'Clock Blues - BB.King & Eric Clapton
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Tecknik- excellent tunes !
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I believe I told WhitecamaroSS to try to evaluate a system by playing live un mastered songs that are well recorded. One such song I played for you in the GT Audioworks Room at Axpona was Marcus Miller From Tutto Revisted - the song was Jean Pierre track 5- I saw you shaking your head in disbelief when I was demoing the system. Another cd is Rodrigo y Gabriella Live in Japan song is Stairway to Heaven. These songs are a must when evaluating any system. Listen up then I hope you listen to them again on the GT system.
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Wow, just typed a list and lost it! Arggghhh
@mrdecibel
Not a big SRV fan, but wow, that Tin Pan Alley track is very well recorded. Thanks for the rec.
@whitecamaross
I've notice that you enjoy a lot of genre's, so I hope you enjoy some of my recs.
Uncle Tupelo - Sandusky Dido - Give you up Chemical Brothers - We've got to try Carey Bell - It's so easy to love you American Football LP3 (whole album) Cibela - The shine of electric dried leaves - Phoenix, Flying High
@grey9hound
On the subject of War, check out Low Rider. Really great recording.
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@whitecamaross
Meant to mention that Carey Bell - "It's so easy to love you" is a spectacular recording.
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I’ve added every single song you all have suggested. I can’t wait to hear them all tomorrow night. Keep them coming if you have anymore please ! |
WC, Tin Pan Alley was recorded and released in 1983 / 1984, as I indicated. Here is another I believe you will find fun, and will be a system tester, for sure. It was 1983, and a recording engineer named Tom Jung, started a new label ( Digital Music Products, better known as DMP ), all digital, and a direct to digital format ( no overdubbing, 1 take ) and a musical 1st of it's kind for the new format, the CD. The name is " Tricycle ". I am sure you can download it, as it is available on YouTube. Enjoy ! Always, MrD. I have a question, WC.....Were you around in 1983 ? lol .....My son was born that year. |
@mrdecibel
Is that Flim & the BBs?
If so, that was my first CD! Tunnel is another great record by them.
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Pokey...Absolutely. I cannot believe I left out the name of the band in my post. In '83, I was invited to visit DMP in Connecticut with some other industry folks, to see the facilities, and we were each given a copy. Great to this day. I have the entire DMP library on CD, but Tricycle is very special to me, as it probably is to you. Play it. I hope WC gets his hands on a lossless download. Enjoy ! MrD. |
BTW, I purchased all the others...…..although, if I put my hand out, I could have gotten them on the arm, I am sure. But that wasn't me. |
just so soothing listening to all these recordings tonight. thanks for sending these around. will take some time to know each of these tracks wc - for fun, just a few - Ballad of the runaway horse - Rob Wasserman - Mansa - Djelimady Tounkara (extra nice 24/96 version) - Birds - Dominique Fils Aime - Nameless - Terracentric - Rodrigo y Gabriela - Love came here - Lhasa - for Trouble is what’s your’re in - my favorite version is the live from union chapel in london. (maybe what u listen to already) |
@whitecamaross
The amps sounded good 2 days ago but I don’t know what happened because today the sound has me hypnotized to say the least. It’s a drastic difference.
Can you say "Lampizator" :) It IS at its best as a DAC and not really a Pre-Amp...Right ? |
WC- It will be helpful to know what elevated the 205 or hampered the Lampizator the last time you compared them as they were reported to be in the same league. |
I can certainly give some feedback as to what happened last time in regards to me finding the oppo 205 and the lampizator sounding the same through the ref10. My take? Well it can be either of these 2 things: 1. The ref10 simply does not pass the signal as pristine as possible. It “sugar coats it” with whatever sound the engineering team at arc wanted out of it. 2. The tubes were at 2k hours. Maybe the tubes were just not performing right anymore and this took away the qualities from each source I connected to it.
i can certainly say that the solid state preamp I use now (Virgo 3) seems to be more appropriate for my neoltihs.
One last thing and a surprise to you all: i am going to be trying a set of tube amplifiers very soon. :)
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Had you kept the Ref 10 I would guess the 160M but since you ditched that...HMM...Mike carries Vac so maybe the 200IQ? I wouldnt think you would stretch for the new 450 VAC or whatever that Monster is called. |
A very few A+ sonic gems . May have been mentioned already. Mainstream recordings that won’t leave you wishing for vinyl. Trust me. Love over Gold. Dire straits Brothers in arms. Dire straits Document. Rem Honky Chateau Elton John Madman Across the Water. Elton john One more car one more driver. Eric Clapton Live at Pompeii. David Gilmour The Dance. Fleetwood Mac Broken Arrow. Neil Young Live at Bass Hall. Lindsey Buckingham Late Mozart piano concertos. Any that are on channel classic label All the pretty horses soundtrack
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Let me guess your next amps: ARC 250 SE...
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There are a number of good SRV recordings.
Most of The Sky is crying is well recorded. Life by the Drop in particular
Eric Clapton - From the Cradle is outstanding
Gary Clark Jr. - the Bright Lights EP is good and a fun listen
A number of the MTV unplugged recordings are spectacular
Rock Candy Funk Party - We Want Grove / The Groove Cubed both well recorded. Some of the stuff on both is really good to demo with. All sorts of nuggets on both recordings.
On to a few things with a little more octane...(not to be listened to at lower volumes)
Metallica - Black Album
Pantera - I’m broken
Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood (inspired the recording for the Black Album also)
Rage Against the Machine - Killing in the Name (and a fair number of other tracks), listen loudly and let it roll right into Take the Power Back, killer bass line.
Tool - Entire Catalog
Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize - off of Fear of a Blank Planet
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WC, Not a high end or audiophile recording ( not horrible by any means ), but if you want to really " get into " your system, have some tissues with you. Studio version of " Europa ", by Santana, appeared originally on his Amigo album. Lots of internet talk about who, and why, he wrote this piece. There are live versions as well, and, done by many other artists, such as Gato Barbieri. But, imo, showcases Carlos as a wonderful, soulful, guitar player. Just beautiful, and yes, I have cried listening to this song, on more than 1 occasion. Enjoy ! MrD. |
"Sojourn Of Arjuna" on the "Left Of Cool " Album Bela Fleck and The Flecktones. It is their best Demo song IMO. Please check it out. It is especially a Great Bass and Dynamics Test |
WC, I am guessing, as wonderful as your system is sounding now, you want a little more " color ", that admittedly, you stated the ARC preamp gave you. Tube amplification, which ever they are, will do it. |
WC I have a current reference ARC pre and the stock tubes have failed at approx. 400 hours on two occasions which supports one of you theories. |
I want to thank everyone here who has been proactive about all the music suggestions and also getting back on track on what you all enjoy about my crazy journey. i feel a bigger participation is certainly taking place now and that’s a great thing.
Coming up next: SYSTEM 1
Nordost Odin 1 speaker cables Nordost Valhalla 2 xlr (from the source to the preamp) wireworld platinum 8 xlr from preamp to amp nordost Odin 1 powercord on the dac and preamp
VERSUS
System 2
wireworld platinum 8 speaker cables wireworld platinum 7 xlr (from the source to the preamp) wireworld platinum 8 xlr from preamp to amp nordost Odin 1 powercord on the dac and preamp.
Which system do you have winning??? Let me hear your thoughts ! I am going to do this experiment tonight so let me get your opinions !
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I will guess System 2, primarily because of the speaker cables. What power cords are on the amps? Dave
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I can only guess with Tin Pan Alley playing.... |
System 1, WW platinum 7 can sound a bit dark in the mids, haven't had the pleasure to here the WW8. The Nordost Valhalla 2 I think will balance it out a bit.
System 3 alternative. WW 8 SC V2 source to pre WW 8 pre to am Odin 1 PC dac & pre.
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