LSA Voyager GAN Amplifier

amp dude & andy,

@amplifierdude 

Yipeee you’re a hero,! Now what are you trying to convince me or anyone intelligent about again? 

Let's see. Well, I've been around here for more than 20 years (you've been here for days) and I'm not currently selling anything (you are). Seems to me you need to be the one convincing people. You're just not doing a very good job of it. You haven't even told us the name of the product yet. How are we supposed to buy it if we don't know what it is?

I'm seriously interested in a great product at a great value. I mean, I have a Raspberry Pi based music server, and a Pioneer PLX-1000 turntable, both seriously High Value Products. My music server has software controlled volume, so I could connect it directly to a pair of active speakers and have a nice little affordable system. But I don't know what speakers your amps are in. So how am I to help your cause?

Yipeee you’re a hero,! Now what are you trying to convince me or anyone intelligent about again? 

@amplifierdude 

Nothing that anyone on here knows about

See, now you're just making $hit up. I get around. I know lots of stuff. I'm into both 2-channel audio reproduction and pro audio. These are the only 2 markets for audio amplifiers, so I would know your work. If you just shared it. Seriously, I would know it. I get around. Ask anyone. They know me.

No one is buying it Mike.

Nothing that anyone on here knows about

Mike makes mud.

@amplifierdude  - I have some active speakers! What brand of active speakers do you make amps for? Maybe I have some of your amps.

I make amps for active speakers. Only music lovers like them because they don’t carry the biases of separates/passive speakers do

Okay Mike..

@amplifierdude  

But I don’t make amps for audiophiles. Only music lovers.

I'm a music lover! Seriously, I post mostly in a few music related threads. Not equipment threads. What is the brand of the amplifier you make? I'm interested, you know, as a music lover.

Why would anyone make this accusation? Someone signs up just to make 1 post and we should believe this? Wow you audiophiles are delusional. Provide some evidence, share a video taken of you with The location. Then I’ll share a video of me. Then we can meet up in person. If you don’t show up you’re a fraud.

@gerkaz If it walks like a duck…..

Anyone else care to wager that amplifierdude is Mike Davis from Mivera Audio? I wonder why he would reply to this thread and not the one below...

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/how-could-i-get-a-mivera-audio-purestream-and-superstream-serviced-if-n

How’s this mudslinging? What did I say bad about anything other than Ric’s mods and behaviour? Obviously LSA agrees with me that the TI TPA3255 class D chip can make an amazing cost/performance amp. In fact after hearing the TI demo amp, I almost made a custom implementation myself. But then Icepower came out with their modules, which are flawlessly implemented, with top quality parts. And dirt chip. Around $43 I believe in quantities of 100 units. So obviously I decided it wasn’t worth the expense and headaches making my own version. 

@amplifierdude You are just mudslinging. You have an agenda and should be sent back to the bridge you crawled out from under.

amplifierdude

52 posts

11-23-2021 11:33am

Are the connections soldered properly

I didn’t realize LSA made another amp with the TI TPA3255 chip just like Icepower uses in their 200AS1 and AS2 modules. 
 

It would be interesting to hear if they did a better job than Icepower with their implementation. Icepower’s 200AS2 stereo module can be had for $78. And is a turnkey amp. Built in supply and everything. 
 

https://icepower.dk/buy/as-series/200as2/

We really need that mute user button.

I suppose he's suggesting that if the information you share is factual, it's forum policy to keep your posting to a minimum. 

@amplifierdude

Do you have any idea what this fruit loop is on about? Andy

@jjss49 

Thanks for taking the time to show these 2 for who/what they really are. Let's hope Tammi or the mods see this and strike these 2 and our needed responses so this thread can be sanitzed once again

Best to keep it inside then. Makes for better discourse when nobody knows what they're talking about 

Certainly trying to make a point. He's smart, he can read a chart, along with 99.9 % of the other folks on AG.. We just aren't prone to show everyone how smart we are.. But I'm impressed for sure. What is it we're reading again, earthquakes in Japan at 5 different places? ;-)

You have no concept of "truth" , only your subjective opinion which you are constantly falsely marketing here as "truth". You are selling a religion, for which there is no truth

+1 And that's the truth. Andy

Boring nonsense from @amplifierdude.....

total fraud.

Well hard to share how something sounds over a forum. But for those intelligent enough to understand what's in the picture, it's as much proof you'll ever see on a forum. 

Share something that measures better. And this is through an input stage that drives the amp to full output power with 4v input. Not with the input stage bypass cheater switch enabled like Benchmark has. 

You said it not only is the best measuring amp in the world, but also the best sounding amp in the world. Kind of like saying my dad can beat up your dad, my dad is the toughest dad in the world

Here is an intelligent way to deal with them......when they,....or a group of them (there are only about one half dozen of the worse) of these guys says something not true then one person should counter with the truth.
 

You have no concept of "truth" , only your subjective opinion which you are constantly falsely marketing here as "truth". You are selling a religion, for which there is no truth, only unsupportable, unverifiable, "trust me" opinion you put in a glass and have your followers slurp down. You are the anti-truth.

Only subjective feedback so far

Share something that measures better. And this is through an input stage that drives the amp to full output power with 4v input. Not with the input stage bypass cheater switch enabled like Benchmark has. 
 

I’ve built the best measuring and sounding amp in the world. 

Prove it

Don't forget to hold hands and sing kumbaya

please, do not respond. in fact, lets get to the space where we/I don’t even need to state this......should be just silence......a beautiful thing.......like their comments don’t exist.....just our happiness is real

So someone who actually understands amplifier technology, and has built amplifiers for 15 years is a threat to the community? I’ve built the best measuring and sounding amp in the world. But I don’t make amps for audiophiles. Only music lovers. So I have no skin in the game. This allows me to be honest. I don’t need to pretend that a $100 amp module is worthy of a $3000 amp. That makes me a threat.

@amplifierdude

joined 3 days ago - 35 posts already, mostly here

@andypandy

joined 7 days ago - 31 posts, mostly here, and one other thread

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just the facts

new names, same old loser(s), same old garbage

to established users, i would remind you, recognize the garbage so it can be thrown out, don’t respond to it, just makes it worse

mods please take note, thanks, have a good weekend all

Back on the frog juice again Ric?

I does not matter what you say to these guys......and this new addition....just above.....they will keep saying the same thing over and over again. What they want is attention and to fight . What there heart wants is love. However, their desire to "be right" dominates their postings.

Here is an intelligent way to deal with them......when they,....or a group of them (there are only about one half dozen of the worse) of these guys says something not true then one person should counter with the truth. No doubt that will set them off again but just let them rant. After that it is silence. You just let it go. If they have no one to fight with then they will go away.......or at least all their posts will be not replied to.....except for the +1s from their team mates.     no noise, miller carbon, phil, myself, tweak1, etc......just let one person reply with truth (without making them wrong or being that personal) then after that we do nothing. It takes two to tango.....it takes two to fight. If you point a finger at them they will throw a rock back.....and it goes on forever. Just love them. Let them have their say.......make sure one person counters with the truth.....and then we can all get back to the topic that wants to be discussed. I noticed that george had tons of posts ignored on one of the fuse threads.....way to go guys.....his posts were there but no one cared......very cool.....let’s do more of that....and we can stay in the love better that way.....keep the vibration high.....don’t fight.....don’t engage......just ignore....seek the truth....speak the truth....feel the beauty....feel the joy....right now.

Since you love ASR so much why don't you head on over? Illogical, tin-eared and self-righteous, you will fit right in. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

We should stop trusting Audio "Science" Review

By saying that, it says we should only trust the tweaker/shillers that say don’t believe the measurments, just trust me, "it sounds better" give me your money and I’ll tweak it.👎👎 so wrong.

Usually the ones that do believe this is the way, have no idea on how to understand/read specs, but they feel the need to be in control so they believe the subjective more than any objective. Andy

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it seems that threads about class d or gan amps always turn into the worst of a-gon

shilling, accusations, ugliness, rudeness, personal attacks

we can and should do better"

I couldn’t agree more. The problem is that the thread is about a particular amplifier and those who either own it, heard it otherwise in a system in which they are familiar with or have worked on it are the ones who can provide first hand knowledge of any pros and cons and not the people who have no experience or are relying on websites which expouse no valuable information (to each their own and they call that hearsay in legal terms and heresay is never good coming from a bad source) on how the amplifer sounds with particular set-ups or vs. other things. That’s why I posted my impression in the thread about the Voyager and EVS1200 and whatever pertinent information I had with other amplifiers. There’s no issue if someone has first hand experience with the particular amplifier and thought it sucked, That’s why Baskin Robbins has many flavors.

Class D amplifiers have come a long way in the last few years. I presently own 3 of them and not that long ago sold a fourth as I had no place for it (converted one integrated AV system to just UHD video with a new receiver without preamp outs and moved the 2-channel preamp I had to another secondary system). With regard to the ultra (expensive and top notch) high end, Class D I don’t personally think is there yet but I’m happy and the dual mono stock IcePower vs. $100k monoblocks in another thread performed decently given the price difference.

From many of the people who behave in a certain way (and no one is telling them what they are allowed to believe or not believe and that’s why I indicated in any earlier post about ultracrepidarian people), Why even respond to a post with such a person as it is obvious they have no knowledge about a product and only rely on irrelevant information which comes from a source which is known all over for that type of information as I noted in an earlier post (below again). There is no point in responding to posts from a person without the necessary experience to comment on it whether the subject is about audio, automobiles, appliances, etc. So just let them post and keep posting comments about the subject of the thread. The moderators have the final say (and no one else does) about what is appropriate and what is not so just take advantage of the platform to exchange valuable information and ignore the information that is of no value.

That only seems when the non-measurable tweaker gets involved. Andy

it seems that threads about class d or gan amps always turn into the worst of a-gon

shilling, accusations, ugliness, rudeness, personal attacks

we can and should do better

 Making sad drama.....nothing to learn from the above.  please ignore.

@underwoodwally  Why respond here to a review done at ASR?

Please guys.....do not respond.....just ignore.

I call BS on EAS tuning the board for worse measurements and better sound. All the EPC demo boards measure mediocre. EPC sells these parts based on the ability to build better preforming amps using them. But in the 6-7 years since they started working on these, conventional class D amp tech like the Purifi's surpassed them. If they could, this amp would measure much better. 
 

And they deleted my thread for talking about an Icepower module I don't even sell. I guess they're too cheap and Icepower doesn't advertise here. So it was a no go.