Keeping an IC broken-in…is this a good idea?


Hi Goners,  

To keep an extra unused interconnect cable broken-in, so that when needed it is at its best performance, my plan is to connect it to the TapeOut of the preamp and back to an unused Input on the same preamp.

Will this work?  Do you see any negative effects of doing this?   Could it affect the overall sound from the pre?

What do you folks think? Good idea or not.

Thanks.


mysearcher257
Rather han liquidise metal (copper requires  1,084.4°C to melt), go into the most cold and use super conductivity...
None is possible nor relevant.
But why not go crazy after the snake oil sellers. Let them set our agenda.
Let's talk logically:
Copper conductors are not individual to the interconnecting cables. The entire "inside" is copper conductors: PCB, wiring etc. Those are way longer than the interconnecting cables length. Why that part is left untouched?
What about all electronic equipment that has a way higher significance than an audio interconnecting cables: Space equipment, Airborn, medical, measuring instrumentation, Military, Naval and many more.
None had that requirement or say. Audiophiles DO!
Re thing the subject.

I think that is the intention, but not to befuddle you, but the potential buyer.

In most metals, there is a significant drop in conductivity in the liquid state as the atomic lattice is no longer ideal for conduction. Significant being a 50% drop. In some metals, those that are typically poor conductors, they conductivity goes up in the liquid state.  Some of them are liquid at room temperature.
The definition of a metal is that it conducts electricity, so it would exhibit those properties whether in liquid or solid phase.  We are talking about room temperature and normal atmospheric pressures?  What any of that has to do with quantum states is what befuddles me.
@onhwy61 ,

I must say I fully appreciate the respectful, yet obviously sarcastic calling out of B--S--.

Does liquid metal have resistance? Yes (quite a bit actually)

Does liquid metal constructed into a cable have capacitance? Yes

Does liquid metal constructed into a cable have inductance? Yes

Does liquid metal constructed into a cable have characteristic impedance? Yes

Does liquid metal experience skin effect? Yes

Do band-gaps of metallic semiconductors stay similar from solid to liquid state indicating similar quantum properties? Yes

Does the atomic bonding structure of room temperature liquid metal alloys improve as it relates to conductivity, whereas for some metal (copper, silver), it is already optimal in the solid state? Yes


Yes, please enlighten us.



Liquid metal at room temperature is a wholly quantum beast(*). It is not wire. Wire...which would not be considered to be an overall quantum equation or situation.


I'm fascinated to hear more.  Please expand and go into detail.  Feel free to provide equations.

All Teo Audio cables are conditioned at the manufacturing point, by Teo Audio.

DO NOT use a cable cooker on Teo audio cables. Do. Not.

Liquid metal at room temperature is a wholly quantum beast(*). It is not wire. Wire...which would not be considered to be an overall quantum equation or situation.

Whereas a liquid metal most definitely is in the quantum camp.

After over 10 years of dealing with the mental fragmentation bombs being constantly thrown at Teo for saying what is scientifically obvious, it is nice to say such things... without being beaten down by the ignorant (via a few dozen to a seeming hundred hateful postings).

That.....is a huge sea change. Think about it. 

(*) Not quite wholly, but understanding the ins and outs of that, is, well.....)
Oldhvymec, thanks for the ideas.  My pre does not have a TapeIn only TapeOut.  That is why I thought of using an unused input.   Using a second system is a great idea for cables adn components!!
I second the idea of a cable cooker. I've used an Audiodharma Cable Cooker for years and I'm glad I purchased it.
Copper conductor (cable) do not need any brake in. Just for you, this is a common say of salesperson, when you buy a cable for a lot of $$$ and it sounds just as good (or bad) as your 5$ RadioShack cable. So to make you keep it and not return it, they invented the say: the cable needs a brake in.
Sorry for all the guys who think that this poor cable will sound better later.
I will not!
What is BI ( brake in) ?
Running current through that cable.
So why drive it at a line interconnect with an input impedance of 47k Ohms at 1V RMS (at 0.002 microamps) for 50 hrs, rather than drive it with 1A for 1 Sec.?
So you will know the answer (I’ve just told you) in a second, rather wait for weeks? No one has that good of a sound memory to say it sounds better after 2 month.
Caelin brought some power cords over one time. This was like 1994 or 5, Shunyata was very much a startup plus power cords were still pretty new back then. Caelin takes one out of his case holding it like its a Faberge Egg or something. This one audiophile is rolling his eyes giving him a hard time but he's handling it like if you twist it wrong its gonna break or something. It sounds really good. Still have it in my system. 

I wasn't eye-rolling or hassling but I was a little dubious. Until a few months later comparing power cords I noticed when one went back in it didn't sound like it did before. We're talking minutes not days so what is going on? Then within a few minutes it would sound just like it did before. Took a while to figure out it was the wiggling. Move a wire around, bend it, disturbs things. Takes a few minutes to go back. So Caelin wasn't putting on a show. Everything really does matter after all. 
Cable cookers work, I thought they were a bunch of hoopla, until I tried one and then bought one.. It cuts the break in time to 1/3 or less and it will freshen up the old ones for sure. Adds a direction in which it works the best. One way will sound different than the other. The more refined the system, the more you will notice cable changes (ICs) as for power cords, less so. I found a great power supply goes a long ways as far as VAC cables go.. A cooker sends pulses at 100 times the normal rate, they use a SMPS power supply.... so one day is close to ONE MONTH @ 24/7 use...

I have a guy that sends me 20 IC at a time. I Cook them.. Your jaw would drop if you knew what he charged on the mark up. 18.00 in parts and a cook, over 200.00 per pair of RCAs. 100% rating, never a problem..

OP your idea just needs a tweak or two, like hook them in a tape loop and activate the loop.. It takes a lot longer to break them in but it does work.. ADD your arrows after you do it....Might want to do that on a second system to, a lot of guys use the "second system" for just that, cable and component break in, testing too, ay 2, LOL more like 22 over here, I gotta thin the herd..

The "it don’t work crowd "STUFF IT" , you’re wrong.. plane and simple...
in denial, or just can’t hear. There are those that cannot hear the difference, that’s why we still have ZIP cord...

A good cooking on everything, sure speed up the break in time, settling time and SQ from the start... Silver or Silver clad, 2-1000 hours for them to sound the way they are going to sound... 100-300 with a good cooking.

Silver gets a BAD rap for being "too" bright, lack bass, la te da.. Cook um’ ALL that changes.

Copper drop it on the floor an give it 50 hours. :-)

BUT Silver, copper, or any other construct, Tape the ends when you disconnect them, (NOT AFTER). Loose coil, and zip tie. THEN put them in an ASB. BE CAREFUL with them.

Regards
Thanks Guys,

I guess another of my "good" ideas bites the dust.

I am thankful for your responses and I am glad that I asked you.

- Jed 
my plan is to connect it to the TapeOut of the preamp and back to an unused Input on the same preamp.
Bad idea!
If someone accidentally switch to that unused input while the system is on and playing...
Plug it into a headphone amp instead.
Yup. Won't do a thing. If you're really picky, store it in a drawer being careful to minimize bending/twisting.
The typical preamp input is an open circuit, when not selected.      No signal will flow, along your interconnect, if that’s the case.