Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

Don't stop now Mary_jo, you're bringing back such wonderful memories; I had completely forgotten about Engelbert Humperdinck. He had his time in the spotlight, and now I can travel back to that specific time; it was the best of times.
Mary jo, would you be so kind to stop posting and getting back to work...
I do not know about work but I could surely use some update in english language and grammar. In logic too.

I had completely forgotten about Engelbert Humperdinck.
In a search for another singer, other than Cole who was posted by Alex, I found Humperdinck to be among the best ones.

The neighborhood had not changed when I was a child and I walked the streets within the boundaries of "My neighborhood". I was preschool and walked those sidewalks without fear. Everybody knew me and I spoke to people sitting on their front porches and even stopped to chat. (that was usually good for a nickel or a dime)
In Croatia is still like this. It’s not as it once was but still quite close to it.
You can walk everywhere without fear. You can chat with everyone you like, in your neighborhood of course. It’s cute but this closeness is annoying me a bit (or sometimes a lot), since at some point you reach the level where your business is everyone’s business, if you know what I mean.
Today's Listen:

Jazz At Lincoln Center Orchestra  --  THE MUSIC OF WAYNE SHORTER
featuring Wayne Shorter.

2-CD set.  I think there are videos of these on you-tube.
Booklet:  "He's at the highest level of our music - you can't get any higher than him.  Everybody strives to have a personal sound: his sound is definitive."   -  wynton marsalis

Disc 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSfFBxn3v-o   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2uIsE2mQPE  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ipgcBEvvO0  

Cheers


o10, of course I didn't mean frustrating at that time.  How could you have known?

I was asking about your feelings after you were older and became a burgeoning "jazz aficionado"?  To realize you knew some of the same people and had many of the same experiences there as someone you admired so much must have had some impact, at least some disappointment you never met when he came back to visit.  I'm sure I would have.
This is interesting so I'd appreciate seeing perspectives from others who listen to jazz from this era.

Within an online discussion today I was surprised to read, "Before and during World War II, jazz was the dominant cultural musical idiom in the U.S., much like hip-hop still is today, albeit in vastly mutated form."

Now "before the war" was even before my time, but in my interest for jazz history I have listened to a bit from that period, along with recordings I heard my dad play.  In my perspective (meaning all I've read and learned) jazz has never been the dominant cultural musical idiom in the US.  In fact it seems to be considered second-rate music by the general public at any point in time.  The period it possibly held the highest regard with the average public was during the 1920s.

My association of the most popular music from the late '30s and during the war was crooners and big bands, like Glen Miller and the Dorsey brothers.  I don't really consider that to be jazz.  Ellington, Basie, and certainly Cab Calloway experienced growing popularity, but not at the level as those others.  But then there was a time when Paul Whiteman was called "The King of Jazz" by some, so definitions can be quite different.



This is an album that hit it out of the park for me. I played this album and reflected on all of the songs in it; especially the songs I had experienced;


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0wta3xkqJo&list=PLGGHQ-AX44-SShGhZ_zK9E23Q0-DukSaI

Pryso, the closest I came to what you're asking about is when one of my uncles who used to call me at 3:00 AM after he had gotten into the brandy bottle, and wanted to talk until daylight.

One night he called at his usual time and began talking about ancient family history, and just out of the blue asked if I liked Miles Davis. "Sure", I answered. Then he asked me if I wanted to meet Miles. "Of course", that's when he told me that he would call Miles to check his schedule to see when we could come to New York to visit.

I figured that this was just Uncle's brandy talking and didn't follow through. It wasn't till many years later, after I read Miles Autobiography, (both men were dead) that I discovered he was one of Miles good friends, and our visiting Miles would have been just that easy.

When Miles got homesick and wanted to see his friends, he invited them to his home for a week or longer at a time. None of his musician friends were allowed at these gatherings. From what I discovered, that's because he was no longer Miles the celebrity musician at these gatherings (they treated him the same as they treated him and each other when they were all growing up) That was something he didn't want anyone else to see. This Miles was never revealed to the public, he was not that sometime abrasive person that we know as "Miles Davis", but the kind of person you would want to have for your best friend; he was the nice person that we never got to know because nice people got used and abused when they were famous musicians, and he had to maintain a "veneer", that wasn't really him.
Pryso, if its not much trouble for you, I would be very curious to hear more from you about your perspective of state of jazz in general when you were growing up and later.
For non americans such stories from first hand experiences are quite interesting
Thanks o10, I appreciate the insight.  While I've read a couple of bios and watched a few videos on him, I never came away feeling I learned much about the real person.  It seemed he was always maintaining that veneer as you said.


The first time I took note of this song, it was sung by Lorez Alexandria;



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWXimvRssmQ

Here it is by Abbey Lincoln


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqPzi99xOCM



Softly as in a morning sunrise
The light of love comes stealing
Into a newborn day
Flaming with all the glow of sunrise
A burning kiss is sealing
A vow that all betray
For the passions that thrill love
And take you high to heaven
Are the passions that kill love
And let it fall to hell
So ends the story
Softly as in a morning sunrise
The light that gave you glory
Will take it all away
Softly as in a morning sunrise
The light of love comes stealing
Into a newborn day
Flaming with all the glow of sunrise
A burning kiss is sealing
A vow that all betray
For the passions that thrill love
And take you high to heaven
Are the passions that kill love
And let it fall to hell
So ends the story
Softly as in a morning sunrise
The light that gave you glory
Will take it all away
Softly as it fades away
Softly as it fades away
Softly as it fades away
Softly as it fades away



Do you have a favorite version of this song?


Apparently I am the only person who has lived and experienced some of these songs. Mary_Jo was commenting until someone made a statement that affected the ladies sensitivities, and understanding the fact that she is a "lady", I can understand why she is no longer commenting on songs that relate to love and life.

"Softly As In a Morning Sunrise" graphically depicts the 3 stages of love; first you fall in love, next you go to heaven on earth, and last you go to hell after it's over because after being in heaven, normal hum drum life is hard to take.

When I hear the instrumental versions I still hear the words.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkN4fm7E0cw
Mary Jo , move to USA, many people don’t know their neighbors names.
0-10 , you are not the only one just the one most focused on male- female relationships .
At least in public .
EVERYBODY should watch this clip, it is the most uplifting I have made and one of the best I have ever seen !
Teared me up as I keep thinking , What if , What if, at present time .

https://youtu.be/5JKe0Vna8tU?t=8

Is the song "Softly As In a Morning Sunrise" lewd and lascivious, or is it your perception of the song? Or my discussing the song?

Maybe you should point out what it was that offended you? Maybe it also offended Rok.

Everything depends on one's point of view.
Guys, chill out. Being in love is normal. Having sex is normal. Feeling lust is normal. Talking and arguing about all this is more than normal, in fact, it is more common than any of the statements mentioned before.
Everything depends on one's point of view.
True. Especially in written word. I might smile on my side of the screen. You might think that I am angry. The written word is the same but message that I wish to send could be completely different.

I heard some hot love affairs were broken out of pure written misunderstanding. What a waste.


(smiling)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0izjSUqCcSQ

Urban dictionary says that Lush life means a life of luxury with an exciting night life, a sophisticated outlook, and plenty of partying. At the moment I lead none of this but I have vivid imagination.

(smiling)

Wish you all nice evening. It’s evening here so it must be everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5K0wsdil_I 

Mary_jo, going back in time to when I was young makes me feel good; if Rok and Schubert were born old and have no memories of when they were young; tuff stuff, I say don't spoil mine.
Maybe it also offended Rok.


Far from it. I find the teenage love escapades of you and the Jazz Queen, absolutely riveting. I can’t turn away.

Maybe you two could take a cold shower, not together, and then we could get back to Jazz.  I got a new Jackie McLean today.

Cheers
I have memories , but perhaps not as many as most .

I was born wise enough to know women are not here for me to play
with.
Every time you have sex with someone you give them some of yourself .

Do it enough and you end up with nothing to give .


I have gone as far as telling women who asked ME for a one-nighter
why it would not be for good for them when I really would have liked to.

Those are good memories .

Far from it. I find the teenage love escapades of you and the Jazz Queen, absolutely riveting. I can’t turn away.

O-10, do you know what this means? That two of us are still young and that he is old.

Maybe you two could take a cold shower, not together, and then we could get back to Jazz. I got a new Jackie McLean today.

Yep, old.

:---))
Back in the day, in Mississippi, the Jazz Queen would be known as a 'pod of pepper'.

Cheers
I was born wise enough to know women are not here for me to play with.
That is nice of you, schubert.

Mary_jo, I know little of Mississippi euphemisms; a pod of pepper goes in chili. I'm going to disregard Schuberts interpretation of love as meaning raw sex as in "Love for sale", which is a song that is not really about love for sale, but Schubert wouldn't understand that.

"Softly as in a morning sunrise" is a very important "love song", which is why so many artists record it.


"Softly As In a Morning Sunrise" graphically depicts the 3 stages of love; first you fall in love, next you go to heaven on earth, and last you go to hell after it's over because after being in heaven, normal hum drum life is hard to take.

When I hear the instrumental versions I still hear the words.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkN4fm7E0cw


 
Rok, maybe you and Schubert think I should discuss the COVID 19-Lock-down?

 

For years I went through Frogman's censorship, now I'm going through you and Shuberts censorship. I wish you guys would tell me all the rules, I want to be correct you know.
the COVID 19-Lock-down?

Radical Left  /  Communist plot.   The objective is to have EVERYONE dependent on the Government.

Cheers
“Censorship”?! Are you kidding? Seems to me that only the moderators have the power to do that. As has been correctly pointed out, everyone is free to comment on any topic and in any way he/she chooses.......just as everyone is free to comment on the foolhardiness and indulgence that this sometimes is.

Nice comments on love/sex, Schubert.




Has anyone told the COVID 19 virus about this; maybe it will behave and quit killing people. Why don't you just put a knee on it's neck, that works every time.
My two favorite versions of 'softly as morning sunrise'....

Wynton Kelly

https://youtu.be/ldTIXsCXJhc

Vince Guaraldi

https://youtu.be/g0AiG4zFEMk

For couple of weeks already we do not have any more lockdown, but it might be a very long winter, since the already poor economy took a big hit (tourism mostly)

Funny enough, here the 'blame' is on 'rich shady' people 'behind the curtains'...not on the poor old comrads, as Rok would say....'smile'
Why don't you just put a knee on it's neck, that works every time.

Covid-19 would probably have just put it's hands behind it's back and let the Officer put the cuffs on.    It's the smart thing to do, esp when you are guilty as accused.  This virus is a lot smarter than most crooks.

Cheers
not on the poor old comrads, as Rok would say


The 'comrades' in the West are not poor.

Cheers
...I am quite certain that they are not the ’true comrades’ as well, but than again, maybe I am too young to know...’smile’

As for Love, talking about Schuberts words, once I read a novel from James A. Michener in which he says that than young generations (in 60’s) believed that best ’love’ song is this one...

https://youtu.be/IN4lb13oZyY

Again, funny enough, that genertaion is closer ( or your age) to some of you guys...

Perhaps my upbringing went the wrong way somewhere, somehow, (smile) since by the time I was able to think that I understand something about love, I prefered Nat King Cole (or at least Dean Martin)

So, on that matter, I am with you, Schubert....’sensitive kind’...

https://youtu.be/mAi8-BS_6dE




If only we could get a rope around that COVID-19’S neck and hang it high, our problems would be solved.

You have a vivid imagination and I have an excellent memory; we can travel many years into the past when we were both quite young and visit one of my old haunts with the most sophisticated atmosphere and the best live music; we might even be serenaded by Trane and Johnny Hartman, who knows?
 our problems would be solved.


When all this ends,  and it will end.  all the problems will remain.   When I  used to attend Officer Professional Development Courses  in the Army, we would often get management experts from Corporate America to give us lectures.

All said this at the very start of the course:
The First Step In Problem Solving, is to "STATE THE PROBLEM". 
We can't even do that, so what chance do we have of solving anything.

Cheers