Pure imagination; I can travel to any time I choose, (except the future) and there is nothing handier than a "Starkite".
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Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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It's almost illegal to talk about this, so it might get deleted; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx72tAWVcoM |
USAF droped more bombs over Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam True, but sort of misleading. We were involved in Vietnam for over 17 years. We bombed Germany for about 28 months. Jan 1943 until Spring 45. Cheers Did you get to read my Canadian post before Big Brother erased it? If you didn't, I recommended the book "The Guns of August" by Barbara Tuchman. Get it. |
Schubert, COVID 19 is going to stop all the wars for awhile. I just found another Lee Oscar album hiding in a stash I’d forgotten about; this is that old school groove; it makes me feel good. What do you think about it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RqtZLvyPns |
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Pryso, thank you for the answer. Sometimes its a mystery to me, why people like (or dont like) certain types of music. Are we born with some inclinations or is it matter of different influences that we are exposed during our lives, who would know? I really know lots of folks, but among all of them, there are perhaps five (5) of them who listen jazz...I tried to share or to introduce many of them (at home and at a bar that I had, as well) to some nice or accessible stuff, but except the polite patience, never get far... ...and,by the way, jazz is bad for business (if you sell booze), at least in my hometown,ha,ha.... Sometimes, when I would like to close earlier, I would just play some...the drinks would stay in glasses, so fast the guests would leave.... Paul, Jeremy Pelt, fine music, I like it, will buy it, new, as you said, but the atmosphere on the album seems to be like the one from past times... Rok, Rare Earth was one of may favourite bands when I was in high school, have the concert album from 74. (the one with a bag on cover) They were great, but also did not get much exposure to wider audience... |
Alex, there are too many questions in regard to jazz where you live, but over here it's a cultural thing; people from the large metropolitan areas over those from rural areas prefer jazz. Next, believe it or not there is an "education" component; people who like jazz over blues have a higher degree of education. Last but not least, there is a generational component. If you took each element individually and examined it, you would find the answers you seek. |
The more things change, the more they stay the same. https://youtu.be/09wjR5tc12s https://youtu.be/O_h-saU6gNA https://youtu.be/AKQ7v3S9atM |
This lady had never heard a note of this guy in recent post .The power of music ! https://youtu.be/WsaV5F_Cdng?t=5 In last part he was 80 ! That post was last month !! Forces of Nature have no genre and he sure is one . |
I would never suggest you are dreaming. I assume you mean Benny Goodman instead of Artie Shaw? Different? Sure was. One could be generous and make a magnanimous judgment and say that his was a time feel that was pretty representative of the time feel of most Swing music. I know exactly what you mean and why you feel that you don’t “get” it; and, I suppose, why you don’t like it: on the front side of the beat; unlike the more relaxed, back side of the beat feel of other players. On the other hand, one could also make the assessment that he is too square. Dare I say it?.......too white. In some ways the very reason that the music of that era was so popular; it didn’t deviate too much in feel from the comfort zone of the majority of the consumers at the time. However, hard to argue with what Benny did for Jazz on several levels. Integrating black and white musicians for starters. |
No , I do like it and I much admire what he did in the race mess . Just did not know what was what . thanks ! I try to never give up when I get a bone , I tried for more than a year to figure out what Osmo Vanska had done to the Minnesota, got it (I think) he had /has laser control of rhythm at all times , first things first ! He is also taking our concertmaster with him to Korea . I guess it’s to be normal, he married her. |
Turn a metronome on....perfect time, but no feel. “Feel” is primarily where each player feels the pulse of music in relation to that potential absolutely perfect pulse. In real life music making there is, on either side (faster/slower) of those potentially “perfect” completely in control pulses, a certain amount of latitude before it sounds like simply bad rhythm. Where each player feels the pulse in relation to that potentially absolutely perfect pulse and how he is able to control and manipulate the subtle deviations from perfect (in either direction) is one of the most important things that determine HIS time feel. Some players play very behind the time and some very in front; and lots of in betweens. |
I wish I could comment in regard to the time, but I'm not a musician, the only thing that matters to me is that which is projected; what emotional story does the music tell, without that, is it really music at it's deepest level. Yes. that would include the feel. Can anyone analyze this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHold6ylvEM |
“The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor will all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72cb7hnbVvg |
The sky is crying. Meaning, it’s raining. Wise man once said, into each life some rain must fall. Jacky Terrasson / Stephane Belmondo: La Cabane du Mimbeau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQL8wuV9pw Jacky Terrasson / Stephane Belmondo: Jazz à Beaupré 2017 Vendredi 7 Juillet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMpBKgdWsRQ Stephane Belmondo Trio - You Can"t Go Home Again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqJAr-wYvGM PP |
frog, your comments about time just showed again how much I don't understand in music. I've heard of musicians playing ahead of or behind the beat. Intellectually that makes sense, but I can't say I can identify it when it happens. Sometimes I'm surprised I enjoy music so much since I seem to know so little about it. :^( |
alex, why should taste in music be any different from other experiences in life? Fortunately we males are not all attracted to the same characteristics in women. Individually we favor different foods. Art and literature are varied and each type appeals to different people. With music, like most things, I expect a big influence is what we grew up with, what is familiar. As we grow older then tastes of trusted friends can have impacts on us. From there it becomes a difference of personality type. Some are happy with what they know, so they stay with that. Others are more restless and seek out new things, as much for change as anything else. They tend to evolve more as their circle of taste expands. What we like or don't like is the result of individual personal experiences up to the present moment in time. Others here might suggest different reasons. |
I know it is so pryso. in spades at that . But how anyone could want to stop learning is , emotionally, beyond me .My take from everyone I know or have known is they go ,or stay, static because the courage it takes to grow older or just plain old is simply not there or gets thrown away . There are differences between cultures , for example Germans are very blunt and will talk about death in a way that is taboo with Americans . P.S . The courage to go old is as much as being a soldier , maybe more . |
This is stone -cold proof of what Frogman said about finding your own grove from one of the most versatile jazz musicians alive ! This will make the frogs WEEK ! https://youtu.be/IKEGUnlCe_Q |
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Frogman , Technique , tone, control , improv , brains and wisdom , she’s got it all . I assumed she was German but she was born in 1971 in rural Austria . Her Graz conservatory is one of the best in Europe . Quite unusual to find a Austrian who can speak German German as well as her . A true MUSICIAN ! |
Please forgive the self quoting, but I think my previous comments do a fair job of setting up a backdrop for understanding the issue: **** Turn a metronome on....perfect time, but no feel. “Feel” is primarily where each player feels the pulse of music in relation to that potential absolutely perfect pulse. In real life music making there is, on either side (faster/slower) of those potentially “perfect” completely in control pulses, a certain amount of latitude before it sounds like simply bad rhythm. Where each player feels the pulse in relation to that potentially absolutely perfect pulse and how he is able to control and manipulate the subtle deviations from perfect (in either direction) is one of the most important things that determine HIS time feel. Some players play very behind the time and some very in front; and lots of in betweens. **** When a good band (any number of musicians in ANY genre) plays the musicians set up a collective pulse for the music. Some call it the beat, the pulse, the time, the rhythm, the groove; although “groove” is a qualitative thing which describes how well the musicians are able to set up that collective pulse as not everyone will have the same idea of what the EXACT tempo and feel of the music should be. It takes at least a moment of musical interaction for everyone to “see” (hear) where each other is coming from musically. In a good performance there is enough agreement that the performance sounds and feels good. Enough, because you inevitably also have some degree of disagreement. While professionalism and love of the art mandates that there be musical give and take, some players may have a musical personality that is more dominant than that of others. A good player knows how to make that difference add to the music in a positive way. When the leader of the group counts off the tune and the band comes in they start playing in the tempo that the leader counted off (or otherwise set up by playing). However, there is still that “latitude” on either side (slower/faster) of that tempo. Some will have a tendency to feel the beat ever so slightly ahead or behind that absolute tempo that the leader counted off. When a leader chooses a rhythm section he considers all that. He may want a drummer that takes charge and really drives the music forward by playing on the front side of the beat; or the bass player. This may give the piano player the freedom to be more relaxed or less obviously “rhythmic”. Some players are better at or are more willing to “bend” and compromise than others, but this may actually create a desirable kind of musical tension. This may all be the exact kind of seasoning that the leader or soloist likes best in his rhythmic soup. There is a tremendous amount of this kind of interplay that takes place. Tony Williams is a drummer that plays on the front side of the beat; tremendous forward motion in his playing: https://youtu.be/x_whk6m67VE Elvin Jones played more behind the beat. Here it is Jimmy Garrison that is the dominant time keeper and Jones has the freedom to play around Garrison’s bass pulse: https://youtu.be/td7RD6KLibU Two of my very favorite tenor players. Dexter Gordon was infamous for playing behind the collective beat of the rhythm section. It could create tremendous musical tension. A good thing; certainly a valid thing. Johnny Griffin played much more in front of the beat creating an overall more forward even lighter feeling in the music. Griffin’s solo starts @ 6:19. https://youtu.be/W9Cg9Ml3scg Cannonball Adderley was another player that played very on the front of the beat for that very “up” vibe that he had in his playing. This is obvious in his solo, but listen closely to the three horn players playing the melody at the top of this classic recording. On those single notes that are the melody one can hear how Cannonball often places them just a hair earlier (front side) than Miles does. That was his musical tendency and personality: https://youtu.be/k94zDsJ-JMU Some examples that came to mind and I hope this helps clarify. |
I believe you once said this guy played on the beat. Don't play so much bone brother!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9E4O8RCzf4 Cheers |
Check out Bill Hardman (trumpet) on this! That’s one great player that slipped by us I think (acman3?) Rest of the band is not too shabby either ☺️: https://youtu.be/KKGBLjjy-hQ As leader: https://youtu.be/mkbQNLf70CY https://youtu.be/9bL-lNh-YbI |
frogman , what do you think about this flugel player? Primarily a Trumpeter . Not a member of the band . https://youtu.be/HgNT-u8uw0I?t=3 |