I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
German military prowess? You mean like attacking Russia in winter in their summer uniforms? 😳 Or like losing half their air planes in the Battle of Britain?
Just a quick note on the "Jazz at the Pawnshop" album mentioned earlier. The album might well be the best live recording I have ever heard...listening to it makes you feel like you're 10 feet from the stage in the club where it was recorded. Absolutely stunning recording perfection. Thank you to the member who put it at the top of his/her list earlier.
Attacking Russia, as I stated in my original post, was their biggest mistake. For all intents and purposes Germany lost the war on 22 June 1941 although it took 4 more years.
The original post was about the fighting ability of soldiers. To make it simple I will try another approach.
The Russians lost approximately 4.5 million men from 22 June through December 31 1941. The Germans, in the same period, lost approximately 1 million. Those figures are for KIA, MIA, POW, and wounded. This is a ratio of 4.5:1 in Germany’s favor. Adolf Hitler had predicted that Russia would fold and Germany would win by the end of September. Adolf Hitler was wrong. He and his intelligence staff underestimated the Soviet Unions strength in man power and industrial capacity.
The Soviet Union continued to "grow" army’s and stack them in front of the Germans. They also moved their armament factories beyond the Volga River near the Urals and out of reach of German bombers. In short the Russians ability to replace lost men and equipment far exceeded what the Germans were capable of.
The Germans also had to replace their losses on 2 fronts against the 3 of the largest world powers starting in July 1943 when the Anglo Americans landed in Italy (the Italians surrendered which did not help) and a year later when they landed in France. They simply could not do this.
Soldier for soldier the Germans tactical and operational prowess was unmatched by the Russians, Brits, and the Americans but their endless supplies of manpower and resources was, in the long run, far to much for the Germans to succeed. In short the Germans were overwhelmed by the brute force of these 3 world super powers and their resources of men and material.
We all are in debt to the Soviet Union which bore the brunt of the full might of the German Army and bled them white before we landed on Normandy on 6 June 1944 to open the second front.
“More than 1700 Luftwaffe (German air force) planes were destroyed. The 2662 German casualties included many experienced aircrew, and the Luftwaffe never fully recovered from the reverse it suffered in August-October 1940. The Royal Air Force (RAF) lost 1250 aircraft, including 1017 fighters.”
Pjw and Rok, you guys are concerned about "welfare cheats" but find 700 billion of your money, our money going to Wall Street OK. That sounds backwards to me. I say you both have been programmed to think positive for the rich and negative for the poor; you look down on the poor, but admire the rich swindlers, the "flim flam" men.
New BMW's can cost from 50 to 100,000; I don't know which one's you saw, but I "double dog" guarantee you they did not belong to a welfare recipient. While you saw them in that neighborhood, and it's possible to have seen a Lamborghini in that neighborhood, it didn't belong to a "welfare recipient", a dope dealer most likely; he's someone who couldn't make it on Wall Street and chose the Black mans path to riches.
He sells dope to the people who can't cope with the insanity in the ghetto that is the direct result of "economic racism" in this country; poverty that has been passed down for centuries from one generation to the next. Now lower middle class white people (the real middle class is more affluent and less racist) have someone to look down on and feel superior to.
BoB was NOT the turning point and the UK could never have defeated Germany alone. The Brits were in no way capable, in the fall of 1940, to invade northwest Europe so they panned and carried out bombing rins over Germany which was a dismal failure.
In the 10 raids bomber command launched against Berlin between June and November 1941, 133 Germans were killed compared with casualties in the RAF of 3 times that much. At the same time British aircraft losses in 1941, mostly bombers, were more then double those in 1940 - (1,034 vs 492)
By all means, its kind of pointless to argue about history from a simple point of personal opinion, let alone on jazz forum. Than again, we have these subjects mentioned every now and than but its never quite clear to me what is the purpose of it and what exactly we should discuss about. Op is concerned about decline of middle class and rule of economic oligarchy that effects us all, Rok is usually just beeing Rok and now the others are starting to share their belifs, which is a great way to poison the thread by some bad emotions. I really think that we should not follow that path, or perhaps, we should open new ’political’ sub thread, but away from jazz. I dont mind at all when somebody shares his memories even if not in context of music, but if such thoughts are going to open bitter responds, one should know better not do do it, at least here. Life is too short and there are very few people here already, it would be shame if we destroy such a fragile coexistence between very different people and peronalitys. Mojih pet para na tu temu....
Attacking Russia, as I stated in my original post, was their biggest mistake. For all intents and purposes Germany lost the war on 22 June 1941 although it took 4 more years.
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Adolf Hitler had predicted that Russia would fold and Germany would win by the end of September. Adolf Hitler was wrong. He and his intelligence staff underestimated the Soviet Unions strength in man power and industrial capacity.
The Soviet Union continued to "grow" army’s and stack them in front of the Germans.
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We all are in debt to the Soviet Union which bore the brunt of the full might of the German Army and bled them white before we landed on Normandy on 6 June 1944 to open the second front.
Life is too short and there are very few people here already, it would be shame if we destroy such a fragile coexistence between very different people and peronalitys. Mojih pet para na tu temu....
I can walk and chew gum at the same time. Rok and I are friends with different views, I believe that if I needed help, I could E-mail Rok, and if he could he would; we are both concerned about one another's welfare. I admire his honesty.
As for the few who come and go, I say let them. The subjects we discuss are too serious not to be discussed. The jazz discussion is still going on. There is no law that says anyone has to respond to anything other than jazz.
That's my point of view; maybe we should silence the OP.
This is "Jazz" there have never been many people here, and there never will be.
While you saw them in that neighborhood, and it’s possible to have seen a Lamborghini in that neighborhood, it didn’t belong to a "welfare recipient", a dope dealer most likely; he’s someone who couldn’t make it on Wall Street and chose the Black mans path to riches.
O-10. I think noone not even for a moment had a thought those cars actually belonged to any of the poor ones. The fraud in as you call it "welfare" certainly do exist but that does not mean that welfare should cease to exist as such (this sentence is actually for rok, not for you). I strongly support the system which will provide the basics (health insurance, roof over head, education...) for the most needed ones. But it’s the system again, if there is a will for it, that should secure the distribution of those supporting funds according to the written law. It is other pair of shoes if system allows the existance of grey zones where black welfare market blooms and fraud occurs.
"Here’s another superb instrumental track, this time from the jazz saxophonist lovingly known as Trane. Somewhat of a musical odyssey, Acknowledgement forms the first part of the artist’s four-track magnum opus entitled A Love Supreme.
Drenched with emotion, this expressive, beautiful record skitters along intensely – representing the artist’s personal struggle for purity. On a technical level, it’s also perfect. Created as a deeply spiritual piece of work, Coltrane’s avant-garde styling set an indomitable precedent for not only jazz, but artistry in general." ~ source pure.com
I want to thank all the people for their off topic comments. Without them I would have never known that people are selfish and will manipulate others for power and wealth.
Before I got real sick, I was researching "West Coast Jazz". West Coast came and went, but there was some stellar jazz produced in LA. These are some of the factors that made it so different. Jazz musicians in LA didn't have to tour in order to make a decent living; they could do movie soundtracks, plus there were many clubs out there that paid well. All of that meant that they never became famous because they didn't have to tour.
When I was stationed at Lackland AFB in 59, word would spread about which movie had a good jazz track. That's when me and my fellow airman compadre would check it out. We would laugh at the silly black and white movie while digging the boss jazz soundtrack.
Now I have to find which movies had the boss soundtracks.
I want to thank all the people for their off topic comments. Without them I would have never known that people are selfish and will manipulate others for power and wealth.
Rok, not so long ago, there was a referendum in Switzerland, in which they had to decide if all the citizens will get the basic income from the state,cant remeber the amount, but it was enough to cover the cost of rent and bills. They (people) declined that notion. So, I guess, I could understand your thoughts about welfare. But, I wonder why dont you mention other things that could be done with wealth that your county has, such as free education and health care for everybody?
Frogman , I agreed with all you said on Bell . I am old , was tried, didn’t feel like answering and just went for one word to be sardonic. rok, The mercy and love of God is free and also comes from some who worship him . That is SOMETHING !FYI , as of this minute German Universities enroll 35% of all their young which is the largest figure in German History . Hope Europe does tax them , we give them billion dollar rebates on zero paid in here .That’s socialist . Just because we have Socialism for the rich and Capitalism for the rest of us its still Socialism .
rok I am no fan of the Nazi's and their ideology. I am just as happy they were beaten as any other sane person would be.
As far as comparing fighting abilities of the belligerent nations in that god aweful war I read many books, which you have already stated are factless and lies on jazz, blues, as well as the military I would say that you and I should just agree to disagree. I will not be answering anymore on the subject on WWII.
Keeping it jazzy. Here is what I'm listening to right now:
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