Yes , 😁 own most important Martino albums...
It begin with frogman recommendation almost 2 years ago...
And i listened to the documentary about him relearning to play...
There is something in his personality that moves me...
His playings too for sure...
I think that he hypnotized them...
I think you are right! His sense of rhythm was indeed impeccable and an aspect of his playing not so often mentioned.
You've heard this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBi29nU-S-I&list=OLAK5uy_lrwp53TVjMLccwjjVqQH041aeOeDUu7B8
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@mahgister
I was fortunate to see Pat Martino live at Birdland NYC about 8 years ago. I am also a big fan of Martino. You have to check out his earlier recording sessions as a guitarist on Willis "Gatortail" Jackson sessions. I have purchased many of their collaborations on CDs over the years and they are rare.
Martino is in his teens and early 20s on a lot of these recordings and of course it was way before the near fatal car accident before Pat had to "re-learn" the guitar.
I like to compare his playing pre and post accident. Anyway here is a Spotify playlist I made for you.
Willis Jackson Mahgister - playlist by Paul Irishman | Spotify
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I like this album a lot...
I even used it as a test for my acoustic soundstaging test...I like all others Martino albums but this one is special on many counts...
The Hammond of Pat Bianchi goes so well with Martino guitar... And the soundfield is very well done by the recording engineer, the way the players are distributed... It is not an audiophile recording for sure but only a good one...
All the pieces on this album integrated into ONE larger musical whole that lift the soul by his rythmic pulse felt trough all players here...Martino know how to implicate all the players around him...I think that he hypnotized them... 😊 His playing is pulse driven...Always melodic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU_1MROrl9g&list=OLAK5uy_nEmiZ7GXG-7yCU9_MZERlnWxg47HD5-FI
@mahgister
Which P. Martino album are you talking about?
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@mahgister
Which P. Martino album are you talking about?
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@pjw81563
Well, I didn't have a choice at the time. My dad retired while I was about to enter 9th grade and my parents decided to move the family to Guadalajara at that point.
Later on, I did return to the East Coast -- my wife and I lived in Maine for 9 wonderful years. I always miss the East come fall but I have no desire to deal with those winters, although the last two have been marked by more snow than I like here in the rural Sierra Foothills.
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@curiousjim and the rest of the "JFA crew" the concert was great. It was raining and chilly last night in NYC but once inside the cozy confines of the Village Vanguard surrounded by the ghosts of jazz legends I was HAPPY!
Framed photo's on the wall included John Coltrane, Joe Henderson, Thelonious Monk, Bill Evans and of course, the still living legend Mr. Sonny Rollins.
@stuartk You should have stayed in NY....
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Oups!
I just realized that i already have this Eddy Louiss album with Rene thomas but i never listen to it before you mention it to me...😊😁 And really Thomas shine on it...
I have many Eddy Louiss albums already loving Hammond organ... The one with Thomas i never listened to before your youtube post ...I listen my file instead now... 😁 Sound is better...
It takes one hour to listening an album.... if you own thousands it is thousand hours...
Impossible to listen to them all in one year... And there is albums i listened repeatedly as the "formidable" album with Pat Martino and hammond organ for example.... Then it is less time for discovering a new one... I am less in search for novelties anyway than for an album that will put me in a trance so to speak.... Novelties it is easy to find... Trance like album less easy...
Then i know way less about jazz than many here... I listen too much the albums i like too much... 😁
When i love some album and i love many i ask myself if i will listen to it more than 10 times before dying... For this Martino album i am already near 50 ....And i know i will listen at least few times each year...
Good!
It’s not easy to suggest albums you haven’t already heard. ;O)
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Good!
It's not easy to suggest albums you haven't already heard. ;O)
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Yes my friend...
The only defect in Rene Thomas is the very few albums i can grab...
If he was playing in New York , he would have been way more known... it is more than good...He playings is creative and stay melodic ...
@mahgister
Love Rene Thomas! Have you heard "Dynasty" by Stan Getz?
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Listening to Alphounse Mouzon, Mind Transplant.
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@acman3
Samurai ‘Hee-Haw’ was good.
Thanks.
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Listening to Cedar Walton tonight.
What are you all listening to?
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Sorry man, no excuses here. Gonna have to write you up!😁
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Excuse my mistake above last paragraph. My friend introduced me to the drummer Bill Stewart, not Bill Hamilton (I had the distinguished drummer Jeff Hamilton on my mind as well Doh!)
Jeff Hamilton: Blues for Stephanie - YouTube
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A couple of my favorites:
Tenor Conclave
Gil Evans & Ten
Both are fantastic!
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@pjw81563 , dont skip that James Clay....
Cannonball Adderley: So long as there's a Duke Ellington you don't have advancement in jazz, you don't have modern jazz, traditional feeling, you don't have time or no time, or polyrhythms and polytonality as well as simple tonalities. I think that so long as he's around we are going to have jazz as we knew it, but I'm a little bit afraid. Our problem is just getting the people to listen. There are a great number of fine players, and there will always be fine players. What were the elements that attracted people to jazz in the first place? Let's stop and think about that. Jazz had a kind of mystique. It differed from popular music and dance music because there were surprises all the time ... there was always the spontaneity of improvisation and the excitement of people really involved in enjoying what they seemed to be doing. Among other things. Now aren't some of these same elements present in some of the popular music today? This is the thing that is of major concern to me. There are certain rock and roll, rhythm and blues groups who have exciting rhythms going on - complicated things they have a spontaneous kind of vocal improvisation even, and they have the same elements, solos that we have today, improvisation based on something new, when they get a music that complements all the other elements they have going, then I am a little bit afraid, because we have become so intellectual in our approach to jazz that it's becoming academic, and we listen to people because we know they are good and to see what they are going to teach us or what they are going to say rather than for the sheer thrill and enjoyment of feeling.
This interview was published on "THE chicago SEED" newspaper , November 1968
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@alexatpos
I will check out Texas Twister after they unload my trailer and I hit the road towards my next destination. Almost midnight here in Brooklyn NY.
I have been listening to a lot of Oliver Nelson lately (not just "The Blues and the Abstract Truth" LOL ). I have not heard any "duds" on any small ensemble or big band sessions Nelson conducted/composed/arranged/played alto and tenor...
Just a great musician with so much to like. From his first album
(1) Jams And Jellies - YouTube
(1) Booze Blues Baby - YouTube
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@alexatpos,
I have Desert winds and it’s a keeper. The other two are on my weekend list.😁
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@stuartk
I just found your All Music post. Thanks, this is the reason I bought a streamer! I’m going to see how many I can listen to this weekend.
Thank you!
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@pjw81563
I am listening to “The Kid And The Brute” now and it’s fantastic! I’ll try and get to the other two tomorrow or this weekend.
Thank you!
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Thanks alexatpos... It is much to dig....
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@pjw81563 , just recently I have posted this album of Rene Thomas, when Stuartk mentioned him. Here its again, in case you missed it
https://youtu.be/0Xoli1r1t2Y?feature=shared (Guitar Groove)
Some I. Jacquet albums that I like...
https://youtu.be/FE3NM__LIIg?feature=shared (The blues, thats me)
https://youtu.be/Z1PR557t64g?feature=shared (The message)
https://youtu.be/j5Jsu0g7piQ?feature=shared (Desert Winds)
Aldo I have many more Websters abums, do not have that one with Jacquet. Will listen to it, thanks.
If you find a decent source or better, a cd, listen to that Don Wilkerson album above,it sounds more ’advanced’ than its age might suggest
I do not remember if I ever posted this album, but along the stellar line up its sound is somewhat different than other sax players may have recorded in those times.It took me a while to get that cd. But, than again, perhaps the Frogmans rule may be applied to him too...
James Clay (A Double dose of soul)
https://youtu.be/fY-53kV6qjE?feature=shared
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This Rene Thomas seems to me a genius after more than thirty minutes in this album... ...The last time i fell under a guitarist spell so hard it was under frogman recommendation : Pat Martino....
Thanks ....
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Thanks very much ...
I know this Ron Carter album with Sadao... Sadao never studied formally , it is a self taught player who do the best when he go minimally... It is most of the times... I like him as much as other player minimalistic too as Shorter or Desmond for example on many albums...
I like the tone texture of the sax more in his melodic flowing than in its stimulating for sure harmonic explosions... Trumpet is no more my best instrument in jazz with piano, i added bass ( because of my high end headphone clearer rendition, my past speakers were limited in a way my headphone are not they sound like speakers+good subs it is the best purchase of my life ) and sax.... I appreciated more jazz musicians than ever ...Even Hammond organ and especially guitar and even trombone with the great Steve Turre who i admire a lot ...
I already know these albums of Sadao though...
But i did not know at all the belgian guitarist really... I dont remember him...
I will explore then thanks...😊
Wow! i love him right now... I just let him play... Thanks ...i am in love with some guitar sound...This is one.... Django Reinhardt influence is behind him way more than Wes Montgomery but he play completely in his own way , amazing... ( i own a big box of Wes by the way which i listen often )...
I just realized that i own at least one album of Chet Baker with Thomas... ( i forgot because i have 100 albums of Chet Baker, i discovered jazz thanks to him 30 years ago 😊 )
@mahgister
I know how much you like Sadao Watanabe. I dont know if you have this or heard of it but its a great live recording with Sadao in the company of Ron Carter on bass, Hank Jones on piano and the great Tony Williams on the kit.
Sadao plays blistering choruses and solos throughout....
Ron Carter - playlist by Paul Irishman | Spotify
(1) Ron C̲a̲r̲t̲e̲r̲, Hank J̲o̲n̲e̲s̲,̲ Sadao W̲atanabe,̲ Tony Wi̲l̲l̲iams ̲– Ca̲r̲n̲a̲v̲al (19̲8̲3̲)̲ - YouTube
Also wanted to ask if you know about the great Belgium jazz guitarist Rene Thomas. He was a great friend of Sonny Rollins and played with him when Sonny toured Europe in the 50s and 60s. They also played together at Jazz Middlheim in Antwerp.
Jazz Middelheim 2023 in Antwerp - Dates (rove.me)
(1) René Thomas – Guitar Genius ( Full Album ) - YouTub
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@curiousjim
You can't go wrong with those Ben Webster suggestions from Alek. Also get your hands on the Kid and Brute.
The Kid Illinois Jacquet playing Flying Home. This recording is known by all jazz aficionados as one of the first and best examples of the Be Bop language put on wax. And seek out more of the "Creole Kid" Jean Baptiste "Illinois Jacquet". You wont be disappointed.
(1) The Kid And The Brute - YouTube
Also get your hands on the album "The Soul of Ben Webster". This 15 minute blues from that session is one of my favorite jazz songs from any artist ever put on wax.
(1) Charlotte's Piccolo - YouTube
The Kid and Brute (again!!)
(1) The Kid And The Brute - YouTube
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Had it for a while, did not listened to it and now really enjoing it. Very nice album, stellar line up. Perhaps some of you may like it too...
Don Wilkerson ’Texas twister’
https://youtu.be/fJWgcbmAQEw?feature=shared
P.S. Dont know the reason, but the recording via ytube sounds like its ’spinning’ faster than the actual album on cd that I listen to. In fact, listening via ytube music sounds annoying, not even close to the ’real thing’. Do not use ’pc audio’ otherwise, so do not know what you might expect on other platforms, but if you are still buying cd’s like me, I recommend that one. They are really ’cooking’ on that album...
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My Foolish Heart - Bill Evans Trio.
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