Integrated amps on a 1,000 dollar budget

Oops, and another 12 year old corpse of a thread is re-animated.

Tube DAC would make a world of difference... use a NOS RCA tube in it.

Classe is dark sounding, not bright.

I liked this amp with my Nautilus 804's before upgrading to separates. Usually sells for under a grand. Worth waiting for IMHO and better than the newer 3.5 etc. which are bright / harsh again IMHO.

I agree you should look at these suggestions:

PrimaLuna ProLogue 2
Naim Nait5 or 5i
NAD C355 or C372
Jolida 1501

all these are warm, musical and plenty of current. Somebody mentioned a potential lack of current from the Naim. Never seen a problem with this amp driving many different speakers to fairly high levels, and foot tapping all the time.

PrimaLuna is just sweet, sweet, sweet.

NAD or Jolida would be serviceable if others not available in your price range. C372 actually knocked out Stereophile reviewer last year.

No tubes is a plus?! :-) The PrimaLuna stuff is self-biasing so it's not like you really have to "mess with them".

Arcam mates very well with the 602. Great sound and build quality. It would be perfect plug and play , easy to use, no tubes, compact. You can get a Diva for well below $1,000.00

I own B&W 602s3's. I used to also run Rotel gear.
Finally settled on a Bryston B-60. Absolutely love the sound!!
Good luck

I will third the Primaluna Prologue 2 . Roll the input tubes for a little more warmth and body .

Good luck .

I forgot to add that Plinius amps as shown in the links above are also worth considering. They have a nice warm signature.

It's mine, but chech out the Plinius 8100 that's for sale. A great int. amp.
Good luck with your quest.

Older ONIX 60 or 120 would sound great. You didn't mention which cables. IMHO Stereophile mostly suffers from cranial/rectal inversion. I would not place so much faith in their reviews and catagory placement. Owner reviews usurp those of rags.

Bigmoneyv4, I didn't read the review in Stereophile and don't know what speakers they were using. The B&W's are widely known to be bright speakers by many folks here due to the metal dome tweeter(I didn't find them to be bright anyway) and in my system, I have used Krell KAV-300i, Classe CAP-100, YBA Integre DT, Arcam Alpha 10 and pre-power combination based around Plinius amplification. Forward and bright will be more suitable to describe the Krell KAV-300i. In comparison, the Classe is warm and liquid. I have never heard Classe being described as bright sounding, and I suppose the reviewer in Stereophile that wrote about the Classe CAP-100 being bright must have experienced something "significantly" warmer with regards to the Classe. I didn't mention Arcam as it was not as warm as the Classe and lacked dynamics. Anyway, different people hear things a bit differently so your mileage may vary. Also, brightness can be caused by other issues as well, mainly room issues. If there is allowance to address room acoustics it might be worth a try.

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I just checked the stereophile review on the classe cap 100 and it was positive but noted the sound to be slightly forward and bright. This the opposite of what I am looking for.

Classe CAP-100 is warm and liquid. Around $750. YBA Integre DT is very musical. Around $1,000 or slightly more. I have owned both. The YBA Integre is a better-sounding unit to me. I have used both to drive B&W CDM 1SE and N805. The YBA may be a slight overkill for your 602s3.

The Shanling has been very well reviewed. Also you may want to consider the Music Hall Maven; used at around $750; if you need to save space, you can rip CDs to your computer and output digital to the Maven's built in DAC. My friend has one and I think its a great bargin.

I have been checking out the musical fidelity a 3.5 for around a grand. WHta do you think, does it sound warm. One thing I have always been skeptical of about the naim is that if it isnt tube, how far can the 50 watts it posses hold. What about the shanling a 3000 which can be found right around my price point and uses a tube pre and ss amp. Just looking for something warm and relaxing with my speakers.

2nd the PrimaLuna PL2,but if you prefer SS-the Plinius 82-9200 units.

You can get a new jolida 1501 or NAD C372, warm and musical.

One of my favorites in this price range is the Jolida 302b. It's warm and lush, and should be to your liking.

For college, though, I agree with the previous poster that maybe tubes aren't what you want. Perhaps a Music Hall integrated would work well for you in that situation.

Michael

Portal Panache by Portal Audio - come up used here on occasion and it is an excellent SS integrated, not forward at all, and not laid back; or maybe check with Joe Abrams directly (see A'gon Guild) to see if he has a demo for slightly more than you are looking to pay - how I got mine and came with 3 year warranty , have it in my second system which is listed if you want to see what it is matched with - not affliated with Joe or his company

If you're a student with limited space and time, I would think twice about buying tubes. You want compact, bullet-proof, and cool running. If used is acceptable, the Naim Nait 5i would be a great choice. They go for $950-$1000 used on Audiogon, but they often don't last long. Just checked on two, and they were sold. Good listening!

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I used Primaluna PL2 tube integrated with the same speakers and had great results. They have the power to move the 602's and the sound was nice and warm. They are showing up used here for $850-1000.