I bought another Class D amp and didn't get what I paid for!


A little while back I went on a pleasant drive to purchase a Wyred 4 Sound Class D (ST500) amp rated at 250 watts per channel. When I arrived, I immediately noticed he lived in a small but very nice home on a lake. Anyway he demonstrated that the amp worked fine and I then decided to purchase.
He pulled the amp out and we tried to fit it in its original carton but strangely it wouldn't fit properly. Got it home, plugged it in my second room, sounded pretty good but very powerful. Anyway I decided to try a different set of interconnects on it and that's when I noticed it was the more expensive ST 1000 ( 500 watts per channel), both amps looked identical from the front. But being honest, I call him back and told him you gave me the more expensive ST 1000. This is what he said, Paul I wouldn't of noticed for three months that this occurred and you could of easily kept it with no problems. But since you called me back the same day, we can now make arrangements to exchange it and we did. For a brief moment I thought I could of kept the more expensive amp if I kept my mouth shut but then I quickly realized I did the right thing.

Anyone else have any interesting stories to tell in regards to purchases?
phd
Yes I had a person sell me a 1 month old Mcintosh, MC225. ONE MONTH. The guy bought the thing in 1968-9 something like that, then died, a month later, sick the whole time. The wife catches the kids messing with the thing, CUTS the end off the PC and throws it in a box and, lives for another 45 years, and passes on.

The kid selles me the amp for 100.00. I give him 500.00 plane and simple, I've been offered 3300.00 once 3000.00 a few times. All day long at 2500.00 Even the valves were still new... Not a scratch on it until the kid wiped it off, not thinking, very VERY minor surface dust scratch, they could buff out easy.

Right is right.
Oh I forgot, I have a pair of the 1000s not the R model. You still looking to buy a pair? I took them in on a trade. Never really listen to them.
Serious power though, dead quiet.. RCA, XLR, lot of goodies really.
Over 1000 watt rating, I think, look nice.

Regards
op 

you are dealing with ej on the w4s st amp, yes?

he is a prince

good ears too!
There was this one time when I sold this gentleman an amp and he called me and said I sold him the wrong amp, mistakenly having given him my ST1000 instead of the ST500 that I had for sale... nice to know there are still honest, ethical people.
Absolutely did the right thing.
karma would have got back at you.
Bet you’re just as happy, even more so inside. Priceless.
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oldhvymec, how much are you asking for them? Just curious.

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I'm thinking 1600.00 and some shipping. I'd break even. They have set for 2 years. I turned them on, 3 months or so ago, warmed them for a day, and played them for a day. YUP they have a few watts to play with.
DARK background, ZERO floor noise, xlr or RCA.. Pretty impressive pushing 93% round speakers, above 115 db.  You have pretty good dampening with 4 12" actives and two passives, That is a lot of mass to control, the overshoot on.. They do it with ease..

I'm using Nords, and Carys, in the monitor position. Kind of a waste tho having them just set. I have 10-12 pieces, I'm getting ready to lose.
Time to thin the herd a bit. Mac gear, older Marantz.
Thoren, Garrard, 47 lb, unfinished platter, project, motor, and a few parts, 6-8 Russco, Sparta, rim drive, BC TTs. STILL leave me with TO much stuff..Geezz..

Regards
A/AB ONLY for me!
demoed, in store and at home, with my speakers and the store speakers.
 Didn’t do much for me.

if I had a pair of M&K massive subs, I would stick with class D for the oomph.

 For full range speakers, always A or A/B.  They just sound better to me.
your results may vary!
Some years ago a friend of mind , owner of a audio store gave me to pay latter a pair of energy floor standing speakers . 
During the time I lost my job and had not paid yet the speskers .

 Then his business went under . About 4 or 5 years latter someone told me he had established another business and gave me his addrress . I went to his store and as usual he hug me for the time that we had not seen each other .

 I took the 800.00 dollars that I owed him and gave it to him . apologizing for the years that had gone by that I wanted to pay him but couldnt find him . He said he had forgotten about my debt but apreciated enormously my honesty and that I had credit with him for whatever I wanted ..
Nothing like that has happened to me but you demonstrated that there are still many trustworthy people :-)
OP,  great post and you did the right thing. From a strictly hedonistic standpoint, it sounds like it would have detracted from your enjoyment to listen to an amp you knew you got under cloudy pretenses. It would be a not too bad rationalization to say, "It's on the seller to take more care," but I know it would bother me to try to live with that rationalization. 
@phd 

@big_greg 

since there was confusion between two w4s amps, i wondered if it was ej sarmento (of w4s) himself you were dealing with!

even better news if it was big greg!  

hey phd, so is greg big?  LMAO ....!!!!!!!!
My best friend's father had a pair of vintage Tannoy speakers that I always coveted since I was a teenager.  When I met him recently at a party I asked him if he still had them.  He told me he did and would I like to have them?  In the end, I couldn't accept them as a gift, so I gave him $300 for them.  He didn't need the money but the speakers are worth close to $3K and I just couldn't have a clear conscience taking them for free.  He later texted me telling me he now realized they are worth quite a lot, but he was so glad I got them from him because he was stressed out about what to do with them (he is almost 90 years old now so getting rid of things is a priority).  Despite the potential to flip them for a profit I feel too much attachment to them because of where I got them.  They will remain with me for a long time. 
snakeyp, a plus one for you, Speakers are hard to pack & ship unless you have the original cartons. It more likely then anything else that shipping speakers do result in shipping claims and negative feedback so it is good that you were able to help this older gentleman out by taking them.off his hands. Again by giving him $300.00 anyway says a lot about your good character!
Doing the right thing is always the best thing. It’s usually the harder thing to do. That’s why so many people do the wrong thing,it’s way easier.
Karma, it will last you a lifetime!
Not in a product purchase, but another good story.  At the age of around 12, I found a wallet in the park down the street from my house.  It had in it a drivers license, a Social Security card, some other "stuff", and some cash, about $40 to $50 as I recall.  A little research in the telephone book (this was around 1966) and we made a call.  It turns out that the wallet belonged to an elderly women who lived in the apartments across from the park.  She lost her wallet and didn't know what to do as that was the last money she had until her next Social Security check.  It was a pleasure to go with my dad and bring the wallet to her.  What goes around comes around.  OP, you did the right thing.
Great stories! I appreciate the thread and I believe this is how everyone should live their life. Do the right thing always and be gracious when something comes your way that is a good bargain. The former leads to the latter I believe.
Not audio related but a "What would you do" story. About 15 years ago I was pulling into a tight parking spot with a friends pick up. I usually drive a minivan and the truck handles differently. I bumped a Toyota Corolla in the process a small but very noticeable dent on the left rear corner panel. Waited around a bit and wrote my name, phone number and what happened on some paper and put it in the wiper.  The owner calls later that day. Turns out she had just lost her husband, was very gracious, and pleased that I left the note. She got and estimate I sent her a check and that was that. About 2 months later a card shows up with a check in it and a note from her. "The repair was less money than the original quote so here is the difference returned to you" I wasn't much something like $50 or so, but I thought "Wow so sweet of her!"  The best part is I shared the whole experience from the start with my then teenage step-daughter. She got a kick out of it especially since I screwed up driving. Kids love it when adults screw up. But a valuable lesson was learned...no matter the cost always do the right thing! I hear her say that to her kids now,,,warms my heart!
We reap what we sow...
I ordered a set of Tekton Moabs and when they finally arrived via freight there were 2 sets instead of the one. I called up Tekton and let them know what color/make the second set were and they figured out where they were supposed to go. I refused delivery from the freight company so they could go back and be sent to the right customer. Maybe if I hadn’t had said anything I’d have 2 beautiful sets but I just thought about how long I had to wait for mine. Not only would someone else be missing out and waiting but Tekton who really tries to bring super high end audio to us at a stellar price would have been getting screwed by my selfishness. 
I got the urge to try an old pro amp so bought an Altec-Lansing amp from a guy on CL.  It was a 100 wpc model for 80 bucks.  But when I got it home I realized it was the 200 wpc model.  I thought I didn't want it because it has a fan.  The 100 wpc channel model did not have a fan.  So I called the guy and told him what happened and he was not interested at all in having me come back so I just kept the 200 wpc amp. 

I replaced all the electrolytic caps, slowed down the fan with a resistor and replaced the opamp in the input with a recent design and the thing sounds perfect to me.  And now that I've tried high power for the first time I could never go back, even though I have Klipsch Forte speakers.

Strangely it started blowing fuses one day.  I opened it up and could see nothing obvious.  I unplugged the low voltage power supply from the power transformer and it stopped blowing fuses.  Plugged it back in, and worked fine from then on.  Weird.  
ya ,  you never do Big Stick spend over 15 k  then you might see some  magic  
While perusing Craigslist one day I noticed someone selling a pair of "room dividers" for $25.00CDN.The room dividers were a pair of older Magneplaner's.I will admit that it did cross my mind to buy them, but instead I called her and explained what she was actually selling.
tony1954, I could easily see how a non audiophile would mistake those speakers for room dividers and I think it was admirable of you to point out what she was really selling and their value,.

On the other side of the coin a young lady was selling a set of components that were high-end on the cheap, she knew their value. When I arrived to her residence I noticed the components were pushed out to the street. I asked her what the story was on them. She replied they belong to my ex-boyfriend, I got tired of the partying, him, and his friends. I felt unsettled about the deal but made the purchase anyway.


In the late 1990s, my wife and I were in the Catskills for leaf-peeping season and our wedding anniversary.

We spent an afternoon in Woodstock doing some window shopping that evolved into real shopping as often happens. I saw a small copy of the Woodstock poster in a hippie tshatshke shop towards the western end of Tinker Street, the main drag, and ask the store owner if she had a bigger one. She went into the back and produced one that was rolled up and about 2 x 3 ft. She said it was her mom’s but she had passed away. I asked her if it was her mom’s, she might want to keep it? I could tell that she was a little down on her luck. But she said she never used it and I ended up paying $40 and leaving with it.

As I work in the graphic arts myself and I was able to immediately ascertain that the paper the poster was printed on was of a certain vintage, I took it to an appraiser at a large poster shop in Chelsea in NYC where I buy my collectible movie posters and asked if it was an original and if so, what it was worth. He said indeed it was and as it was in minty-mint condition, it was worth about $300 to $350.

We went back to the Catskills on Halloween to go to the Headless Horseman amusement in the town of Ulster. We went to stop at the hippie tshatshke shop in Woodstock on the way - well, OK, to those of you who may know, it was not on the way, it was almost an hour detour - and there she was and we gave her the $300.

The stunned look on her face was to die for. I think I have never received such a crushing, suffocating hug before or since. 

A couple years later, the store had closed.