High Quality XLR IC's For My System

Long time lurker on these threads now looking to upgrade my interconnects and am interested in the AudioEnvy's. 
Has anyone compared this to Iconoclastic interconnects or even the older  Audiosmith Palladiums? These 3 brands are generating alot of buzz for their innovation and price point.

Second Monster M1000i’s or Pro Studio Line!  If you can find em.

There’s a pair of AZ Silver Ref ll and Silver Ref l 1m XLR interconnects available here now, and you could get both for $1050.  These are very neutral yet organic and holographic interconnects and tough to see you being disappointed.  AZ market is very liquid so you can sell them easily if they don’t work out, so I’d strongly consider jumping on them.   

@teeshot ,
If you are referring to me, then I would ask that you PM Ralph Karsten (Atmasphere). He can provide the details.
In a nutshell, if equipment supports the balanced standard (AES47), then any cable should perform as good as any other. That is why the standard was established.
B

Why do you believe that is the case?

@stringreen ,
It seems we are preaching to the choir. Though I do believe cables do make a difference, XLR cables utilized in properly designed balanced equipment do not.
Bob

If your equipment is Differentially Balanced and using XLR interconnects, there is very little difference in the XLR cables you use.  They all are great.

May be you should try The JPS Labs Superconductor 3 I have for sale on Agon. I think they have everything you are looking for.

@lalitk  ... No, I haven't tried the power cords, but intend to do so at some point.

@teeshot ... AE got me off of the expensive cable merry-go-round, so resale is not an issue for me. In fact, with a 45 day trial period, there's really no down side as you should be able to determine whether they're right for you. Clarus and Inakustik are boutique brands which likely would be hard to resell if you were so inclined. As was mentioned here previously, most any brand of cable is going to resell at about 40-50% of retail, so I don't think resale should be a factor in deciding whether to at least try the AE cables. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with them.

Tvad— look up Clarus, a lot of positive reviews.  Agree that they are not on the scale of AQ or Wireworld. Available used in my price range.  Prices steady last few years— plus I have a set of their Aqua speaker cables for a second system which I like a lot. Inakustik is a German company that sells a lot of cables in Europe. I saw them at AXPONA. From my research they seem to hold value in a reasonable manner.  I cannot say the same for the three small companies whose cables I have used previously in the name of saving money.  I won’t name names because others may love theirs. We each have unique experiences— TS

Another AudioEnvy user here and couldn’t be happier with them. 
I’ve never owned super high end cables but have used the likes of Kimber 8tc, Groneberg, Duelund and Cerious Tecnologies Matrix and find AudioEnvy to be the most satisfying to my ears. Very transparent and neutral. They seemingly get out of the way and allow the music to take the stage. 
FWIW I’m using AE power cords, RCA interconnects and speaker cables throughout my system. 

@teeshot, 

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. AE cables comes with 45 days in-home audition guarantee. As far transparency goes, they fit the criteria. If you prefer to pay more for name brand cables, well that’s your prerogative. 

From my experience, cables on used market regardless of the brand aren’t worth more than 40% to 50% off full retail.  

I looked at the Audio Envy website.  The best cable come in two flavors— designed to brighten a sound or not. That does not instill confidence in me because what I really want is transparency.  Finally, I am not really wanting a “garage  brand” cable because my experience with those is that resale value is very limited. I think I have narrowed my choices to AQ Niagara, Clarus Crimson, Wireworld Eclipse 7 or 8 or Inakustik Referenz. 

@rlb61, 

Glad to hear you’re enjoying AE cables. I picked up AE Studio Prestige RCA IC’s at RMAF 2018. Honestly, I didn’t expect much from the light weight but well made no frill cable. After 50 hour burn-in they exceeded all of my expectations. Have you tried the AE power cords yet? 

Good resume of some high end interconnects.

https://audiobacon.net/2017/12/19/survey-audiophile-rca-interconnects-cables/

Investigate also: Townshend F1, Nordost Frey or Tyr. Audioquest Earth or above, Harmonic Tech Armour Link, Black Cat Lupo Silverwolf.

teeshot, curious that you chose to ignore gdnrbob's post which referred to atmasphere's view regarding xlr cables.  I would take his advice above others.

I concur about Audio Envy. I'm using their O'Nestian 4:4 XLR ICs between my amp and preamp, and they sound awesome ... totally blow away the Cardas GR ICs they replaced. The sound is evenly balanced through the sound spectrum. If you're looking for heavier bass, then try the AE O'Nestian 5:3 cables.  I'm also using AE Studio Prestige ICs throughout the rest of my system. The overall AE sound is one of clarity and articulation with a good deal of gravitas. These are some of the finest cables I've heard.

@koehnerb,

Welcome to Audiogon, I am happy to hear you’re enjoying your new cable. As you pointed out, the musicality is unmistakable and intoxicating...I find myself listening to music for hours without experiencing any listening fatigue. 

I decided to give Audio Envy XLR’s a try after the glowing review from @lalitk

 I’ve only had them in my system a couple days but I can tell you immediately they surpassed my former reference $1400 IC’s on all accounts that are important to me. There is more space between the instruments. The sound stage grew in all directions; the musicality and tonal balance is so enjoyable to listen to. This could very well be the highest upgrade that my system has seen in awhile.

“If I could get better transparency from my cables without the brightness associated with some, that is my goal. Additional bass response would be a welcome byproduct as well”

@teeshot,

I highly recommend Audio Envy Cables. The two pairs should be under $400 plus shipping. If you don’t like them, I will buy back both pairs from you.....they are stupendously good for the money. I have yet to hear a cable made from pure OCC copper that sounds anything like AE’s regardless of the price point. 

No association with Audio Envy, just a happy customer. 

The Shunyata anaconda zitrons I am seeing available cost around $900 used for a 1m IC-- so out of my price range, or at least my wife's. 

I strongly suggest Shunyata Anaconda Ztron. They are a bargain used.

Tee shot...AQ Sky’s can be had from $700 to $800 for a 1m pair. However for some obvious reason they spurned a lot of fakes. There are photos available online that indicate obvious differences which usually revolve around the color of the braiding. I’ve been burned once and almost twice. I think Niagara is a better value and maybe safer. Just my opinion. 

Check out the specials on Darwin Cables:http://www.darwincables.com/darwin-cable-specials

All the best,
Nonoise

trust me. niagara’s are no compromise. there’s something special about that cable. can’t say why.

If I could get better transparency from my cables without the brightness associated with some, that is my goal. Additional bass response would be a welcome byproduct as well.

I’d highly recommend used Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II (but the Ref I is very close and also a great option). I find them to be very transparent and nicely detailed so things like air and space are fully present, but the detail is natural sounding and balanced nicely with the rest of the frequency spectrum. For silver wires the Silver Refs have very good tonality and full bass but the bass is also tight so kinda the best of both worlds, and imaging/soundstage is superb. There’s a 1.5m pair on USAudioMart now for $550, so two 1m pairs should come in at or below your price target. Anyway, best of luck in finalizing the upgrade process.

Thanks for the excellent responses.  First off, I have AQ Colorado's not Californias.  UGH...my mind is shot. 

Thanks Soix for weighing in, your question is good.  My system--Magico, ARC, Merrill  playing LPs is built for transparency.  If I could get better transparency from my cables without the brightness associated with some, that is my goal.  Additional bass response would be a welcome byproduct as well. 

Thanks 4425 for the Niagara suggestion.  I had thought about AQ Sky's but the price was prohibitive.  The Niagara might be a better compromise for my system anyway.

Tvad, I know nothing about Purist cables, not even remembering having heard them at AXPONA.  I will do some research on them.  I know others swear by them.  Can I assume you use them in your system?  Did you compare them to others?

Tweak1-- I am looking at new Eclipse 8s and the 7's.  Do you have experience with the Silver or Gold IC's?  Thanks for responding.

WireWorld recently introduced their Series 8, so you can find Series 7 at vg prices

btw don’t linger if a pair of niagara’s become available. they don’t last long at all. only if you’re interested in them of course. 

from experience i’d look to purchase used sets of AQ niagara which sell for about $700 per pair. when you try AQ’s silver interconnects you’ll never go back. it’s very smooth and detailed. has some magic. imo

What sound improvements are you looking to achieve with the new interconnects?  Also, I don’t see AQ Californias listed anywhere — are they an older model?

@OP,
Read this thread and my response.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/looking-for-a-plenum-rated-balanced-cable-that-won-t-require-a-second-m

Bob

Try the Pangea line from Audio Advisor its Cardas budget line or believe it or not Monster M1000i's. I actually really like M1000i's and Ive spent tons on cables. The Pangea stuff is really good too and built well. I heard good things about Bluejeans Cables though Ive never owned em. Also take a look at DH Labs outta Florida quality products I still have a few sets. Start there before you spend anywhere near $1200.