Dick's / Dave's picks


Anyone else into this series of Grateful Dead recordings?
If so, please list your fave (s) or collection.
jafant
I am looking for Dave's Picks Vol. 11 and Dick's Picks Vol. 9, 12, 13,if any of you guys have an extra/spare copy. Post here or PM me if you wish.
Happy Listening!
Totally remember the ole B&P days in fact the workers at my local post office used to all know me by name during the height of my obsession with trading tapes/discs.  These days its all done online if you know how to download torrents check out bt.etree.org most of the circulating dead shows can be found there for free.  Another good place is the live music archive https://archive.org/details/etree can stream SBDs from there as well.
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I offerred and sent a copy to a poster here from my dbx decoded copy of 5/7/77. I would do it again for f someone wanted it. Until  the official release came out it was the reference and gold standard. Now that the official release is out, that is now the standard. I bought both the cd and vinyl. I'm sure the hirez down load kills, too.
I sure do- jriggy

if you come across a CM copy, post your comparisons here.

Happy Listening!
I thought someone was going to offer to send me a copy ;)

Remember the ol' day of B&P (blanks & postage)? 


jafant, 
I do not. I used to have a half dozen or so Charlie Miller on an old hard drive (some '72 and some '76 and others) but I don't have a network player in the main system yet. 
I agree about DP 21. Killer first set. All the 'little songs' and/or 'standards' all have something special to them. Even Keith is on ;) ...
'73 is one of my favorite years. I noticed many years ago that I like the year before a 'big year', so '71, '73 and some '76 (late). I guess the same goes for '89. 

I don't mind Jeffrey's work on the mixes. yes, they are different than what we were 'used to' but they are now a 'modern' sound... But sounds like I gotta get back in "the scene" to my old bros and get some of Charlie Millers newer remaster work... 


I have bootlegs that sound better than the Dave's Picks which which showed that they did not go through Plangent process.  They are all murky and I also notice that there is often very annoying distortion on certain frequencies, especially on Jerry solos.  That was at least apparent on the last one from last year that I got.
I am a fan of the Plangent Process as well. I do not know how long the heads (no pun) at GD have been utilizing it?

Happy Listening!
when you read title underlined letter 'p' seems like letter 'D' in the word picks :-)

I always take Dave's picks as reference when price my inventory and always ignore it on my personal tastes that are absolutely opposite. I haven't liked single album that Dave picks.

I didn't subscribe this year because I found the Dave's Picks from prior years to be poorly mastered.  If you compare them to older Dick's Picks it is a big difference.  If someone noticed an improvement in 2017 CDs I'd love to hear that they are doing a better job.
Where did you get the  Charlie Miller remastered 5/9/77??

BTW, I just checked and the HDCD processing seems to start at some middle point in the Dick's Picks releases, after the 'art" covers, not at the same time.

Plangent is a more recent processing improvement.

If anyone knows for sure, they might add it to the wiki on GD album releases, so as to reach the largest audience.
Wow. Apparently there are many other people who have been enchanted by the abundance of Dead concert recordings. (I knew that.)

Received every Dave's Pick and special edition over the past 2 years, and each one is beautifully designed, packaged, and they all sound great. I love everything about the May 77 "Get Shown the Light" box set and "July 1978: The Complete Recordings". Also really dig both box sets from Spring 1990. Dave's Picks 21 and 22 are also very well done and sound great. What a band, what a continuing adventure.
Just listened to my Charlie Miller remastered 5/9/77 last night great sound and fantastic show. I am sure the official release it outstanding but have not yet heard it.
I have read about several Dick's Picks that surround the mighty Cornell '77 date. Pre- and post dates that compliment the Cornell show.

Happy Listening!
prescient post jafant

snakeyp - I think the biz model is to release a disc set with booklets, brightly colored paraphernalia etc. in a limited run; when that sells out, they open up the downloads
Oh and it’s in Tidal Masters so Hi-Rez and if your dac can decode it MQA. Sounds great!
Any of you guys want to comment on the Dick's Picks around the Cornell '77 date?
IME, DP #21 does not disappoint.  An over-all very good recording .
Excellent presentation and the band was really "on" this date in question.
It is going to be interesting to see which venues drop this year for Dave's Picks?

We all are long over-due to a proper Cornell '77 set.
I hear ya, Randy.  It might be better if they only limit the CD version and continue to make the digital files available like they do many of the other special edition releases.  
From a business standpoint, I really don't blame them for limiting these issues.  It's very costly to inventory and distribute music in this day and age.  My advice is to subscribe to them annually.  I have done this from the beginning and never missed a single one.  I can easily sell off the ones I don't want to hold onto for more than I paid.  
my issues are not about them being a business, but about the artificial limitations on production runs of DavPs to create scarcity and hence high unit prices when there are other ways to support the people in the GDO

on another note, here is an old thread:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/favorite-of-dick-s-picks
In reading through this thread and others over at dead.net, a series of complaints are voiced about how the Dead are all about driving profits.
I won't try to argue this, but to state the obvious:  The Grateful Dead is and always has been a business.  Many people in the band and supporting the band have depended on the income generated through concert tickets, music and merch sales.  
If the argument is that "the music is supposed to be free" I would agree only in the sense that there is a huge amount of free music available to those who want it, and this is so only because the band wanted it that way.  If you want it free then download it.  To complain about their official release series only being put out to drive profits is silly.  Of course they drive profits!  This is how successful businesses stay in business.  The Dead run a successful business, and my guess is that the employees working for the Dead are not volunteering their time.  It's very expensive to put out these beautiful items.  If they aren't thinking of the bottom line they won't be able to continue producing beautiful items.  
Sorry if I rant.  I don't intend to stir the pot.  I only wish to point out that you can't have your cake and eat it too.  If you want to enjoy these historical shows in their best possible sound quality and nicely packaged with artwork there is no other choice but to support the profitable brand that is Grateful Dead.  Or you can borrow the CDs from friends who do.  I doubt anyone in the band will mind.  ;)  
My copy arrived this afternoon. I will give it proper attention this weekend and report back.
It's truly a great time to be a Dead Head -- except for one thing...


BTW, A poster asked above about Sound Test - it is a legendary 'show" based on the band noodling around as a sound .. er... test (not people asking about a way to test the sound of the CDs)
I should also mention that DP21 arrived in my mailbox yesterday, and is off the chain good.  A GREAT performance as well as a very good sounding recording from 1973.  '73 was an excellent year IMO.
Dick's Picks Vol. 35 (The Houseboat Tapes) is by far my favorite in the series.  The performances from 1971 were so tight and soulful.  Sound quality on this one is very good as well.  

I own all of the Dave's Picks volumes, most of the Dick's Picks releases and many of the other official releases.  FOr me it;s easier to pick the ones I don't like than the ones I do.  There is such a wealth of great stuff being put out since David Lemiuex became the curator.  It's truly a great time to be a Dead Head.
Good to see you again- oleschool

hopefully this is the year for a proper Cornell '77 release/box set.

Happy Listening!
great to see this thread,i,ve been away for awhile. Being a taper from 85-95 and over 300 shows .thumbs up gentlemen.    (~):=

Yes - They are released in HDCD after Plangent processing (see above).

HDCD obsolete?
From another forum:
I agree HDCD is not only alive and well, but should be used more, especially since DVD-A and SACD are pretty much dying on the vine. Unless the industry wants to start finally recording and issuing DVD-A at full resolution, and players are made available that will capture same, we would be better off just standardizing HDCD for all CDs and enjoy pretty much the same results (IMO). FYI, below is a link to a good article on DVD-A vs SACD that explains in part why we aren’t getting that touted high resolution on those formats.

http://sound.westhost.com/cd-sacd-dvda.htm
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Just made the DaP20 patch checks from Charlie’s transfer and yes indeed, DaP20 uses Jim Wise’s audience recording.

I.e.
Patch Info:
Sennheiser 421 -> Master Cassette -> CD (By Jim Wise) supplies:
  • Bird Song (last 8 seconds - post song tuning)
  • Mama Tried (complete song)
  • Mexicali Blues (0:00 - 1:38)
  • Scarlet Begonias (6:20 - 7:35)
  • Space (4:52 - end of track)
  • The Other One (0:00 - 4:19)

U can spin up DaP20 and look at these patch times from Charlie and you will see they are the same. +/- a couple seconds.  
Would have been nice to give Jim some props in liner notes of DaP20 but they just grabbed it from LMA and did it on their own

So, in the end, we now know there was only one chain of master reels made by Healy this night.
Dave's Picks are released in HDCD, aren't they?

seems a bit odd as HDCD seems sort of obsolete
It took me a moment to figure out what you meant by IKYR. That is a new one to me. It always was "Rider" for those needing to shorten the full name. When combine with China Cat Sunflower it was simply, "China-Rider".

On the other hand "Going Down the Road Feeling Bad", was always GDTRFB.