Hello! Wondering if anyone has updated their passive crossover with the Clarity Cap CMR. I'd like to hear how they compare to the MR and comparable competition. I saw some threads on the MR but not these.
I think the bass i that sense is really nice. You get a lot of the "surface" sounds of drums, of hands or sticks hitting the skins, and more of the body of acoustic instruments as well like violin's, guitars, etc.
I think the liveliness, open, easy breathing nature of the CMR contributes a great deal.
So I thought I would let this go, but I can’t baby!
I am now about 2 weeks into this experiment, and I may actually prefer the MR caps to the CMR. While the CMR may appear at first install more lively, after break in, that mostly goes away and I’m left with far less forgiving caps than I was with the MR.
So the question is, do I want caps to reveal every flaw, or do I want caps that will allow me to enjoy more music? This is my dilemma. The CMR is just much less forgiving of recording and source devices. The MR caps however have a consistent mellowness which doesn’t change from recording to recording. They may also seem less lively, at least compared to fresh CMR caps.
Of course, I’ve spent a lot of time listening to speakers, and little changes. I’m not sure anyone but a teenage girl would be able to hear some of what I’m now aware of, but right now, I’m going to see if I can fully salvage my MR caps and go back.
It may help you to understand that these speakers are FLAT past 20kHz. The common roll-off in the top octave many speakers have is absent. As a matter of synergy, the MR caps may just be better for speakers this flat, the CMR for the more common design choices / tweeters.
thes are my consoderarations: Time will give us other opinions of other people, anyway the CMR is a complete cap, has everything he needs to have. has less listen fatigue than MR, but first of all when you listen MR seems miss something in entire freq range. the MR has a kind of phase shift in comparison with CMR also CMR has more full bodied timbre than MR.
In virtue of what eric asserts, I took the clarity cap MR and CMR, and I re/started to make a serious break-in. This is why, before eric posted his impressions on claritycap CMR I kept the steareo off for work reasons for a long time. So I figured maybe my impressions were to a less-trained ear and to the capacitors with different hours of break-in. so i hope as soon as possible, if i’ll have enough time, to post my impressions (seriously than now :) ) i apologize for this ;)
Hello I have compared directly several, the Mundorf Silver oil is without question More resolved then the the Clarity CSa caps. Silver will always be a bit more spatial and open ,the oil on the paper gives it a bit more body. That being said the Sea, is a nice improvement over the standard ESA, cap. It is better balanced and better defined of the instrument edge.the same applies for the top Cmr,cap which is more refined but much bigger is space is an issue. Personally I think the new Csa-csps closer to a 10 rating on par with the Mundorf Supreme at a more reasonable cost. My friend owns the new ML- 13A masterpiece series stat and he replaced several Of the stock Solen and other poly caps .these new speakers not only are super fast and resolved but now the depth and micro detail are at least 15% better that is huge. These purple caps are a Great deal .One thing though they take s full 200 Hours to get every bit of refinement out of them vs the old ESA caps.
@audioman58 mundorf silver oil are not paper in oil but pp in oil. mundorf silver oil are very unnatural sound and resolution including soundstage. mundorf silver oil has a strange body that’s flown midbass all mundorf caps compared to claritycap have a strenge little compression that seems give you more spacial reproduction. all my impressions are in comparing mundorf silver oil to claritycap ESA I suggest to be careful with the shiny sounds and with special effects. IMHO
There are several factors, the bigger the UF- and higher voltage take longer In truth the 250v is pretty big for the vast majority of Loudspeakers The CMR- caps are s naturally bigger cap then the Csa- caps 300hours + for the Cmr- caps, 200 hours for the 250v Csa- caps, the 400v st least another 50.
Referring yo the Mundorf Silver oil the are a paper coated with oil and the silver Particles impregnated on it ,not a paper in oil like Jensen. It is a great cap for the tweeter as well as mids. Your drivers will dictate Which have better characteristics . Mundorf Supreme as good maybe a bit more Depth then the Clarity CSA. That being said I took a .22uf Mundorf Silver oil for bypass caps And I though it was more s bit open the the Cmr on top, s bit more air around instruments A great combo.22 I like better then .1 ,these are big caps for a bypass caps though .I bought a bunch at dealers cost and making use of them.
This is why I only use Mundorf Silver oil as s bypass cap the slight silver and smoothness adds to open the top a bit as well as of image depth. In my experiences over the many years .
I’m sorry to tell you but you use mundorf capacitors and do not know how they are done. they are polypropylene silver in oil: If you do not believe me ask someone else, or better directily to mundorf.
if you like mundorf sound you will continue to use them to have special effects to sound, but they are not natural.
The MundorfSilver oil will have a bit more air around instruments due to the Silver,one is not better then the other they are close all depending where it is going in the circuit Cmr
I have use these new Cmr and Mundorf Silver oil much more so. the Silver oil will give you a bit more expansiveness around the instruments in Silver has something to do with it . That being said the new Cmr are very well balanced with possibly a bit better image depth. The big question is where you are using them in a circuit, and character of not only the driver, but sonic said of current system and what type of change you are trying to achieve. I have used a Duelund cap ,as well as JupiterCopper and a less expensive caps performed better, sometimes to rich can mask other frequencies in a circuit. a perfect example I wanted a very well balanced cap for midrange just by chance I had both a 2.2uf Mundorf Silver oil , and 5.6uf of the New Clarity Csa cap. to make a 8uf cap . I gave it 100 hours on first listen sounded pretty dawn good 200 hours is pretty close .the Mundorf takes better then 300 hours but at 200 hours I liked it better then the new Cmr. It has very good grip as well as Very good depth and air around the instruments . 10-12% Mundorf Silver oil . i only solder small cap about 1 inch from lead out on bigger cap.a engineer told me this a long time ago ,some put it way down 6 inches away . This is a excellent combination and does not break the bank and can be used in tight space. you can use the 250 v version of CSA. For Bass I used the 33uf CSA, replacing Solen it is 2.5 bigger around , and night and day better more defined Bass dynamics,speed,and image depth. I rate this caps actually a full 9.5 possibly slightly better. Tony at humble home Madehifi was being very conservative if you read through the lines he stated CSA made a more dramatic impact that being said only moved it .5 as well as Cmr. ? Sometimes it is best not to ruffle feathers for he is sent all caps he request for Free. I have been around this industry for over 30 years .the new CSA are a exception buy , for Bass done deal for topend, a .22 Mundorf Silver oil, for midrange 10% ,Silver oil. i have tried in electronics as well as 2 types of speakers.
Wondering if you guys have tried using the new Duelund silver foil bypass cap .01uf in electronics. Right now I have them with some Jupiter foils caps on the output of my amp. Just added the Duelund so I can compare to the Jupiter alone. Thus far I am pretty impressed with the results.
For the record I have not been a big fan of bypassing good film caps, but I have read many great things on this Duelund silver foil so I had to try it. Again, thus far these seem very special.
upgrade: unfortunately the CMR capacitors I was testing were from a friend of mine who wants them back, so I can not continue my tests because I should buy two, but for a test I can not spend too much money. i'm sorry.
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