I havd been molding caps and Xover parts for almost 20 years now. I just replaced thd Mundorf supreme for the by mids . Thd new CMŔ are much Cleaner then the Mundoff supreme, even with a .1 Mundorf Silver oil.they are rated have over 160 hours I on them they have and they are Noticably better then what I knew with old Mr caps. These caps are special very nice baLance. These caps present thd performance which us as good as Jupiter's best or Mundorf without bring too much as Good thjng. These CMR caps rate at Least a 12+ in my system much less $ than the top names but not in performsnce. |
Hello Guys with the extra Copper the detail can seem a bit tipped up in these CMR caps at first they need a solid 100 hours to start to settle down 200 hours to get to 90% and 300 fully runin. Which is a pretty accurate statement .do yourself a favor My a $30 SPL meter to know how loud you are listening ad if played on low volume will take forever .i recommend 65-70 db good back ground Low - med listening 80 plus getting a bit loud .90+ db hearing damage no joke.
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Yes I feel once you get close to the 200 mark which I have now Thd sonic balance is very detailed and open and warm but not as rich as a Jupiter Copper foil. In some systems I would welcome the sonic accuracy of the CMR Caps Munforf supreme are rated a 10 ,CMR a 12+ as well as Mundorf Silver gold oil which is s bit topped up on the top end .personally I feel The Mundorf Silver oil is the most balanced for the tweeter.in the Mundorf line up. The new CMR cap is up their with all caps except for top tier like Duelund cast. Some caps too rich ,let the Dac,wires dictate the balance.
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I find the CMR better then Mundorfs in overall balance .i would have Never just installed one capacitor channel that is just asking for a headache one channel sometimes mixes more bass on one channel then another on cd, it could be the other speaker there is no standard ,this to applies to correct phase also.some cds are out of phase that is why the New PS Audio dac has a phase option and decodes every cd in DSD which is like a master recording,and very analog and detailed . they have a Major firmware upgrade coming out in 4 weeks that will really raise the Bar .Just a heads up if any of you guys are treating yourself to a new dac. That is my Bday present . Underwood Wally has some good deals. |
Hello audio4pass The Clarity CMR are not opaque or steryl, Mundorf silver oil is very good balance wise they are close the Clarity CMR is better balanced across the board. There is no stupid questions . Do uour selves a favor look up DBX pa-2, research it before Saying anythjng.my uncle being a Audio engineer in pro audio. This amount of computing power was over $2k just 3 years ago .nothjng yo loose,Everythjng to gain .the Wizard takes thd guess work out. Your system will never be better, Ever .Itwill make any room sound Much Much Better no BS Fact !! No mstter jow much $$ you have into uour system.The best advise you will ever get ,the rest is up to you !! Email me if you want to discuss this in depth.
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I try to give you tips on how to better your music enjoyment and one Ignorant person had my recommendation of the dbx pa-2 removed. thats fine stay ignorant.
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Actually Audyn has a true Copper Plus model that is even more refined I used them in my other preamp and speaker, they are slightly better across the board. I bought them from Nick at High Collective. 2nd best to only Duelund cast IMO Like a Jupiter Copper but not quite as rich ,a bit better balanced from 2 builds I have used them in. In your system it could go either way. Much less $$ though. I wish they made them bigger in size,too small for my new speakers.
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The new C MR caps are very hood and nice and detailed and open ,once Run in and has a natural warm balance. I was building s second speaker xover but without a schematic a cash cow to experiment. I have s lot of caps looking to sell cheap over $750 in caps |
Hello I have compared directly several, the Mundorf Silver oil is without question More resolved then the the Clarity CSa caps. Silver will always be a bit more spatial and open ,the oil on the paper gives it a bit more body. That being said the Sea, is a nice improvement over the standard ESA, cap. It is better balanced and better defined of the instrument edge.the same applies for the top Cmr,cap which is more refined but much bigger is space is an issue. Personally I think the new Csa-csps closer to a 10 rating on par with the Mundorf Supreme at a more reasonable cost. My friend owns the new ML- 13A masterpiece series stat and he replaced several Of the stock Solen and other poly caps .these new speakers not only are super fast and resolved but now the depth and micro detail are at least 15% better that is huge. These purple caps are a Great deal .One thing though they take s full 200 Hours to get every bit of refinement out of them vs the old ESA caps. |
There are several factors, the bigger the UF- and higher voltage take longer In truth the 250v is pretty big for the vast majority of Loudspeakers The CMR- caps are s naturally bigger cap then the Csa- caps 300hours + for the Cmr- caps, 200 hours for the 250v Csa- caps, the 400v st least another 50.
Referring yo the Mundorf Silver oil the are a paper coated with oil and the silver Particles impregnated on it ,not a paper in oil like Jensen. It is a great cap for the tweeter as well as mids. Your drivers will dictate Which have better characteristics . Mundorf Supreme as good maybe a bit more Depth then the Clarity CSA. That being said I took a .22uf Mundorf Silver oil for bypass caps And I though it was more s bit open the the Cmr on top, s bit more air around instruments A great combo.22 I like better then .1 ,these are big caps for a bypass caps though .I bought a bunch at dealers cost and making use of them. |
This is why I only use Mundorf Silver oil as s bypass cap the slight silver and smoothness adds to open the top a bit as well as of image depth. In my experiences over the many years . |
The MundorfSilver oil will have a bit more air around instruments due to the Silver,one is not better then the other they are close all depending where it is going in the circuit Cmr |
I have use these new Cmr and Mundorf Silver oil much more so. the Silver oil will give you a bit more expansiveness around the instruments in Silver has something to do with it . That being said the new Cmr are very well balanced with possibly a bit better image depth. The big question is where you are using them in a circuit, and character of not only the driver, but sonic said of current system and what type of change you are trying to achieve. I have used a Duelund cap ,as well as JupiterCopper and a less expensive caps performed better, sometimes to rich can mask other frequencies in a circuit. a perfect example I wanted a very well balanced cap for midrange just by chance I had both a 2.2uf Mundorf Silver oil , and 5.6uf of the New Clarity Csa cap. to make a 8uf cap . I gave it 100 hours on first listen sounded pretty dawn good 200 hours is pretty close .the Mundorf takes better then 300 hours but at 200 hours I liked it better then the new Cmr. It has very good grip as well as Very good depth and air around the instruments . 10-12% Mundorf Silver oil . i only solder small cap about 1 inch from lead out on bigger cap.a engineer told me this a long time ago ,some put it way down 6 inches away . This is a excellent combination and does not break the bank and can be used in tight space. you can use the 250 v version of CSA. For Bass I used the 33uf CSA, replacing Solen it is 2.5 bigger around , and night and day better more defined Bass dynamics,speed,and image depth. I rate this caps actually a full 9.5 possibly slightly better. Tony at humble home Madehifi was being very conservative if you read through the lines he stated CSA made a more dramatic impact that being said only moved it .5 as well as Cmr. ? Sometimes it is best not to ruffle feathers for he is sent all caps he request for Free. I have been around this industry for over 30 years .the new CSA are a exception buy , for Bass done deal for topend, a .22 Mundorf Silver oil, for midrange 10% ,Silver oil. i have tried in electronics as well as 2 types of speakers. |