@honeybadgertube RCA to XLR cables are made. The only meaningful advantages of balanced inputs - improvements in CMRR - don't happen unless you're running cables over 5M. Even in RF noisy environments a properly designed shielded unbalanced connection simply don't suffer at short lengths. In a recording studio with hundreds of cables and RF intrusion opportunities, it's a different story.
Choosing between 2 preamps
Hello
I have narrowed down my search to 2 preamps that comes in my budget.
BAT VK-31se
Atma Sphere MP 3 with phono stage(not sure which mk i sent a mail to Ralph)
Both around 2200-2300 dollars.
The BAT Capacitors have been changed to Audience Auricap, instead of 6 each side there are 2 of 10.0mfd 400vdc.
both sounds good, I heard the Atmasphere with my power and B&W 802 diamond, sound was pretty anemic , but i think my power couldn’t drive the speaker properly (AUDIO RESEARCH REF75se)
between both of them because I didnt listen side by side I cant really tell, also difference in all other gear except my Power amp.
I would be happy to get suggestions regarding it. Thank you
I’ve owned all types of Bat gear over 27 years. They’ve produced a lot of great products over that time. I’ve never been happier than with Bat gear. And their resell market is exceptionally strong. So buy it right and you’ve zero risk. Come to think about it I owned a VK31SE at one time. These products are extremely reliable. I owned VK1000 monoblocks, and also mated them with a VK40 preamplifier. It’s simply exceptional gear. |
@honeybadgertube Of NOS 12AU7s the Amperex "Bugle Boy" 7316 has gotten the highest marks in customer feedback. A good alternate is the Bugle Boy 12AU7. In new tubes we've had good comments about the Gold Lion 12AU7. No matter what tubes you get or where you got them, in all cases they should be vetted on a tube tester to make sure they test good, then auditioned for low noise, low microphonics and no crackling. |
I have owned a (stock) BAT Vk30SE for over 20 years from new. I auditioned it against an Atmasphere back in the day and the BAT came out tops. It has also proven to be extremely reliable and I've heard multiple preamps since, none of which have tempted me to upgrade. I note ARC adopted the same tube after Victor highlighted its value in audio, and continue to use it. I have replaced the tubes once (a couple of years ago), not because of a fault but just because of a presumption that newer ones might sound better. They did, but not dramatically so. The company have also been extremely responsive to email enquiries - responses are signed Victor but it's hard to believe he responds personally to each email. |
@panzrwagn my amp ihas only xlr inputs. |
I'd pass on both and consider the Audio Research SP-14 that's listed on eBay right now for $1400.00. Especially since you have an Audio Research power amp. I don't have a horse in this race, and I'm not getting anything from the deal, but this sure looks like a great deal on a preamp that's definitely top-tier. Stereophile said 'In my opinion, the sound of the SP14, via line or phono, will set new standards for the industry. I can see other companies using the SP14 as a benchmark by which to judge their own products—it's that good. It is user-friendly and attractively styled, injecting its unique form of magic into the reproduction of music to a degree I've rarely experienced before. I feel it should be included in Class A of "Recommended Components." It is a very special product." |
I’ve heard the Atma-Sphere (but not the BAT.) and it’s darn good. @atmasphere service is second to none so you’re safe for service and upgrades. Going from 3.2 to 3.3 + VCap is a worthy upgrade.
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I saw this right after I joined the forum https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/atma-sphere-ralph-karsten?highlight=ralph Ralph has replied in generous detail in many discussions I read, including to me when asking for advice here. |
@ghdprentice those were not my speakers. my speakers Sonus Faber Electa Amator 1. but I am right now looking for a preamplifier (i dont have) and I can’t audition these two at home… can you share with me your idea between BAT and Atma Sphere |
@noromance yes used with phono i think its mk 3.2/3.1. Aounds too high? I don’t live in the US and all US gear is pretty pricey here.
@elliottbnewcombjr I didn’t understand if you talked about the visually look of the MP-3 , sorry. also can you link me about the soviet tubes? It’s just normal 6h30 sovtek/ elctro harmonic from what i know. |
Quickie peek, I would pass on the BAT based on the comments about the Soviet Tube they use. Atma-Sphere, I wish I liked it's looks because everything seems right! I wonder if they could provide a Stereo/Mono in addition to or even instead of Phase, and if not remote balance, then separate left and right volume controls. |