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BEWARE OF FRAUD with this member

FRAUD ALERT!
I recently sold a Mytek Liberty DAC to this user.

Buyer: locmao003
503-583-1266
locmao003@gmail.com

In the Audiogon Selling portal they listed their shipping address as a US Oregon address.
I shipped the item to this address. 
Paypal payment made to my account.
USPS Insured shipment, with delivery confirmation.
Delivery confirmed on June 11, 2021 by USPS.
I got an email, from a DIFFERENT email address stating they received the item.

Next, I got a dispute from Paypal saying the buyer never received the item.
The buyer listed their address as VIETNAM! Not Oregon.
I NEVER sell or ship overseas and would not have accepted this purchase if that was disclosed.
Paypal has approved the claim, and took my $500 payment back. I am left without the original DAC or payment.

BEWARE of this Buyer!
128x128thegm
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rdk777's avatar
rdk777
568 posts
 
I would press Paypal. I think you have a decent case - they shouldn’t be so quick to refund the money especially since you have proof of mailing the item.  

robbyedwards101
37 posts
 
Now I just refuse to accept PP for ANYTHING at all. 
robbyedwards101
37 posts
 
This happened to me a couple of decades  ago. I shipped a $5,000 blue sapphire to a dude in
Canada. Used PAYPAL. Had signed proof of delivery via USPS registered mail. He filed “not received” claim with PP. The thing is; PP ALWAYS sides with buyer. Like you, I was out the stone and the $!
facten
2,764 posts
 
@thegm - have you contacted Audiogon to see if they are willing to get involved with you and paypal? I would think that it is in its vested interested to do so as it can’t afford to have scammers on it’s site
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jtcf
1,594 posts
 
Dang!I'm so sorry this happened. Hopefully there will be a way to somehow recover your cash.
dill
2,461 posts
 
Is the Oregon address a real site or is it a freight forwarding place?
Have you been in contact with the person that signed for it?
Where is the DAC now? I wonder if the scam is just for the money and it doesn't matter what the item is DAC, car part, watch or whatever, just taking advantage of PayPal and USPS mode of operation and how they deal with buyers & sellers.
ebm
9,311 posts
 
Buy or sell NOTHING to Viet Nam.You did not know it was Viet Nam home of THE BIG SCAM!!
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thegm OP
23 posts
 
Yeah the whole thing is a frustrating. The person on Audiogon who made the purchase is the one I shipped this too.
Nowhere in any part of the transaction was Vietnam mentioned.
Like I said, I wouldn't have even accepted the sale if it was.
I shipped it to Oregon, and yes I have a signed delivery confirmation from USPS for the package.
I tried to go through USPS for a fraud claim, but unfortunately they just did what I paid them for. Deliver to the Oregon address, which was listed on Audiogon by the 'buyer'.
I'm not easily scammed. I've been a Cybersecurity engineer for a large corporation for 25 years. I am chagrined.

earlflynn's avatar
earlflynn
461 posts
 
So sorry to hear of your issue.
Thanks for the heads up.
nonoise's avatar
nonoise
10,587 posts
 
He's still listed as residing in Beaverton, Ore. on A'gon. 
Maybe notifying PayPal of that would be a start. 

PayPal has been changing their policy a lot recently as evidenced by the emails I've been getting from them. Maybe this scammer took advantage of those recent changes.

All the best,
Nonoise
dill
2,461 posts
 
I am just north of Beaverton. Is there anything I can do?
patrickdowns's avatar
patrickdowns
498 posts
 
This sucks! I hope you get it rectified.
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lalitk
5,102 posts
 
Sorry you got scammed. Your only saving grace is His address listed on Audiogon transaction page. If the buyer changed the address post transaction, Audiogon should provide you some kind of documentation and also blacklist his account. 

Did you not receive email from PayPal on payment confirmation? PayPal always list buyer shipping address in the confirmation email. If I don’t see ‘verified’ next to buyer address, I make it a point to call PayPal to verify buyer’s legitimacy.
hbarrel's avatar
hbarrel
342 posts
 
Road trip
thegm's avatar
thegm OP
23 posts
 
Yes, unfortunately the original payment info on Paypal was changed. Not sure how/when. But you are correct, that was the 'trick'. Since the Paypal shipping address was changed from Oregon to Vietnam...and I missed that. Paypal will not protect me, the Seller.
They did tell me they have seen this scam before...but they still took my money back.
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decooney
1,906 posts
 
re: "USPS Insured shipment, with delivery confirmation."

For your USPS shipment, did you require signature, or confirmation only?

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jbhiller
1,361 posts
 
Yikes!  Thanks for the heads up and I wish you the best in getting the deal fixed to your satisfaction. 
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