Hi, You guys all seam pretty fluent in equipment! I'm not there yet!! Looking for some comments...
I stumbled on the MHDT Havana and Paradidea as I'm looking for a DAC to go between a common CD player and my Mcintosh C11 preamp (I have a original MC275 after that). I can't seam to figure out what the difference between the 2 models is (I contacted him thru ebay) but, I see a lot of people had problem matching it to their premap's. Anyone have a clue if it will match well with my C11 preamp?
I went to 2 dealers in New York and I liked the sound of the primaluna prologue 8 versus a Naim player (I only heard 2 for now) so I think I want to get a Tube Dac to try and recreate that sound. Unfortunately we do not have patience for a 1 disc cd player in our house so we want to stay with a mediocre 6 disc changer + get a great Dac to make up for it's deficiencies.
I'm sure you guys have millions of suggestions, if you have any for me, let me know! Thanks
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I upgraded the power cable ($60 used), digital cable ($70 used), and tube (Western Electric 396A $25). To my ear, the tube upgrade brought more positive sound than the two cables combined. Now, it is not hard to notice that mhdt with my Marantz DR700 CD player sounds better than the CD player alone.
Different tubes in the Paradisea can have a major effect on the bass levels.
I've found the Tung Sol NOS 5730 equivalent tube delivers a significantly fuller and more robust low end than the stock GE 5730 that the Paradisea comes with. The GE 5730 has more sparkle and resolution to the high end however.
There are other tubes that might be tried as well. Do a google search on Paradisea tubes for info on how various people hear various tubes in the Paradisea.
My Paradisea runs into an ARC sp16 preamp. Not sure of the impedance #s here but I do not find bass levels or definition to be an issue with this particular combo.
Tvad I am not sure at the moment. My preamp is a BAT VK5i. The Paradisea sounded just as you described. I was very sad to be honest because I was really looking forward to enjoying this dac especially with all the buzz about it.
I borrowed a friends Muse Model 9 Signature Gen III while I had the Paradisea and never gave it back to him...lol. He preferred his Muse separate transport and dac over this player so it worked out for both of us :)
This is from Rogue. As you see they do not provide input impedance. Do we need to care for something the maker does not provide? Or, am I missing something?
- frequency response: 1Hz-200KHz ± 1dB - THD: <0.1% - gain: line stage: 23dB - gain - mm phono: 65dB - gain - mc phono: 75dB - RIAA accuracy: ± 0.1dB - rated output: 1.5V - maximum output: 30V PP - output impedance: 350 Ohms - dimensions: 17"W x 5½"H x 14"D - weight: 27 lbs. - shipping weight: 32 lbs. - power requirements: 115/230V - 50/60Hz
Here's some spec on impedance of my gears: Linn power amp input impedance: 4700 ohms Rougue preamp output impedance: 350 ohms Paradisea Ouput: 2.0V, < 800 ohms NAD C541i output impedance: 300 ohms Marantz DR700: line output is 2Vrms, but no mention on output impedance
I've found that most NAD CD players have low impedance, e.g., C542 has 150 ohms. I did not care much about all those spec numbers since as long as one sound good it is OK with me.
Does anybody care about those impedance mismatching? If yes, why many vendors don't bother put them on the spec?
Maybe thats why I didn't care for the Paradisea? I mated it to a Sony DVP 7700. I was very dissappointed with the Paradisea but this maybe the reason???
It appears to have pretty high impedance. If the transport's impedance is much lower, it may not work well with Paradisea and the overall sound would be rather dull (lack of dynamics).
The output impedance of my NAD C541i is 300 ohm and Paradisea does not work well with C541i, as I noted in another thread. The only reason I can think of is the impedance mismatching as suggested by Tvad.
I am seriously considering one of these. I tried out a DAC2 with my Rotel 1072 as the transport. The Rotel held it's own remarkably well against the Bel Canto, so I eventually sold the DAC2. The improvement was only marginal, it wasn't worth 750 bucks.
I'm hoping to remove some of the digital hash and smooth out the sound a bit.
I see that Mhdt now offers a Paradesia+ for an extra bill. Has a torroid transformer and ??? I'm glad I don't suffer from Mark II envy or I would kick myself for buying my "standard" Paradesia two weeks ago.
I like the stock tube fine, too. I put in a NOS 1950's Raytheon 5670 blackplate just to get oldskool tube quality. I use a 75 ohm coaxial now, but am looking for advice / experience with fibre optic cable.
That's the first thing I noticed about the Paradisea..it sounds full in comparison to other DACs and CD players I've heard against it. The tube is definitely doing its job!
Dang! What luck! As far as sound; really full & smooth. Hard to describe, but there just seems to be fewer holes in the stream. The response seems balanced low to high. I have a Softone Model3 player that had 98% of the Paradesia sound except for a mild treble roll off. That is now corrected and I can just bask in the music.
I noticed two annoying build mistakes. The four feet are not level and the unit rocks back and forth a bit. I will unscrew a foot and shim it to level. Also, there is no central support for the top cover and the plastic sags 2 or 3mm in the center. I will cement two tiny clear blocks of acrylic to the front and back plates to make a brace. Beautiful construction inside and out, otherwise.
I owned the Paradisea for 6 months. I am extemely happy with it. I am using Squeezebox and FLAC for all my digital music. The setup is the original NAIM 5 integrated and NAIM Credo speakers. The Paradisea with WE 396 sounds richer yet as detailed and the NAIM CD 5. The Bendix Redbank 6385 sound very wierd. You get a kind of drunk and uneven sound with much base but noticebly less detail. Non redbank bendix and all other cheaper WE396 clones do not come even close.
Gmood1, Yep. I bought it yesterday afternoon. I kept missing them so had Ebay alert me when one came up and I got lucky. It had been sitting there for five hours. An eternity with all the attention these are getting.
Hi all. I just purchased a Paradisea and am waiting for it to come. It's amazing to find a piece that is so cheap, and pleases almost everyone who hears it. I read above that some are using a Monarchy to "feed" the DAC. Is this some processor between the transport and the DAC?
Yes the receiver chip in the Paradisea can process 24/96. I prefer when using my disc player as a transport to run the Monarchy at 24/48. It just sounds fuller too my ears. Get a 1.5 or 5 ft digital cable to run from the Monarchy to the Paradisea. The Blue Jeans work great for this. My buddy bought the BJ after he tried mine out against his DH labs cable and another much more expensive cable that shall remain nameless.
Raymond- I have not compared the 6385 to the 396 so I can offer no insight on their relative strengths and weaknesses. I believe that others have used NOS 2C51 to good effect. The 6385 is clearly better than any 5670 that I tried.
From the experiences of myself and a few other the Monarchy helps NOS DACS, which the Paradisea is. The BelCanto (I believe) already does some of the things that the Monarchy does so it offers no real improvement. With NOS DACS though the Monarchy improves the sound quality.
Agree on the computer playback. Just have not had the time or desire to convert. Since I burn my .wav files 24/96 DVD using Cirlinca (and they play as DVD-A discs on players that offer that capability or DVD video audio out for DVD players that do not) I am content for now. My PC is too noisy and is in the same room as my audio system. Eventually though I will be using PC audio. In fact I do so on my office system.
Stratosaur, interesting you should mention the DAC2; one of my favourite DACs. A few people have mentioned the Monarchy as being a good way to feed the Paradisea. I have tried the Monarchy Classic DIP into one of my earlier DACS and wasn't too impressed. Anyway, for me, Computer playback using empirical audio USB/SPDIF converter and SRC 24/96 upsample program is the way to go; startlingly good. Also, with regard to the Bendix, have you compared it to the recommended WE396A?
I have owned a Paradisea for several months now and am very pleased with it. Prefer it to a RAM modded BelCanto DAC2 and a Modwright modded CIA VDA1. A Monarchy 24/96 DIP improved the sound. I use plain old Blue Jeans digital cables on the Monarchy / Paradisea after having used DH Labs and VH Audio on the BelCanto. Stillpoints ERS cloth also helps with the Paradisea as does tube rolling (I use a Bendix 6385 which is hard to find).
when I bought mine I asked several questions thru Ebay and each time got a response. I bought mine about 5 months ago and still love it ;) He also included 3 tubes instead of the usual 1 GE.
I didn't get a response either. Yes it pissed me off at first. With all the buzz I couldn't resist! So I decided to give one a try anyway. Once I purchased a unit through eBay. It was much easier to contact the builder. I was able to order one for a friend buying it directly from the designer.
I take it he's trying to build his feedback and also doesn't want to get overloaded with orders as well. This way he can control the quality of his products.
As a side note, My buddy loves his and much prefers it to his Arcam($2600) player . The Arcam is now used to spin disc. A Monarchy DIP 48/96 feeds his Paradisea.
Hi guys Let's cool it off. Normally I won't bother to respond to strong exchange of words. I ordered my Paradisea two weeks ago and received it 2 days later. I wrote to the builder before buying but like many others, didn't receive any reply. Does that bother me? Yes, but did that stop me from ordering? No because it's only $500 and there are many rave reviews to back it up. I wanted to hear how good it is. Does the 3 layers of bubble wrap trouble me? Absolutely not. Would 4 be better - I don't see why. Most important is that the thing works and sounds great. Well, I will end here and enjoy the improvement in music brought about by this DAC. Now Raymondr, if you are uncomfortable, please buy something else. Period.
Tvad, is there anything you do not know? My love life and the language skills of a Taiwanese DAC builder who is "careful and proud" are things you seem to know with apparent authority. How do you know?
Please. Give it a rest and let someone else make comment.
Perhaps something else bears mentioning. I have over a period of a month tried to contact MHDT on several occasions by email. However, I have not been able to raise the smallest response; a veritable "black hole" of silence presents. Presumably Mr. MHDT spends his days building DACs and licking stamps and nothing else. One imagines, therefore, how a customer with a faulty product might be supported.
Just like everything else in audio...it is subjective. Scott(the reviewer) IMHO has a good ear for great sound. You can find a very long thread on Audio circle. You'll see Scott's as well as several others comment on this unit. It's not going to work for everyone..Just like any other component. There will always be something with higher highs or lower lows or a purer midrange. Finding a musical piece that makes you forget about all that nonsense isn't easy..this is one of those pieces. I do enjoy mine immensely.
Don't think enjoythemusic should be believed without corroboration. They also gave the Altmann DAC the big "thumbs-up".(See:http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1006/bestof2006.htm)
My own experience with the Altmann was that it was disappointing hence the reason for this thread; I would like to get feedback from those who have direct "hands-on" with the Paradisea. I think it is a mistake to buy gear on the basis of a single review; reviewers get it wrong like everyone else.
I compard the DAC to the Museatex Bitstream. The Paradisea is very seductive and musical sounding. The Museatex Bitstream had way better details allowing you to really hear into the musical performance. I perfer the Bitstream that can be found for under $500, modified for another $500 and resold for about the same. The Paradisea is very nice sounding overall.
I have shown with the Paradisea at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest and again at T.H.E Show in Las Vegas. I have no connection to MDHT Labs other than being a satisfied e-bay customer. But I'm also dealer, so my showing with something that I don't sell can be taken as a sincere vote of confidence.
Frankly I kept my internet mouth shut about the Paradisea because I have friends who wanted one, and I didn't want to help drive the price up. But the cat's out the bag now anyway.
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