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Using PA Speakers In A Home "Audiophile" Application!
Hi guys,
I am a bit inspired to explore/trial usage of a pair of PA speakers at home after i attended a live event recently.
I looked at some Yamaha PA models and zoomed in on one that isn't too huge/heavy, relatively easy to move around perhaps.
Are there any audiophiles here who had relative satisfaction trying such speakers at home? I am also thinking that this may not be a great idea, but, just curious at the moment.
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simonmoon: If you are ever in Southern California, you need to come to my house and hear what PA components set in the right cabinets can do for imaging and soundstage, clarity, and precision of instrument and vocal placement. Some of the "PA" components are/were of extremely high quality and placed in the right cabinets, driven by the right electronics, can do just as well as the high priced spread of today. https://jblpro.com/en-US/site_elements/2241h-data-sheet Remember that back in the ’60s, 70s, and 80s, JBL would use many of the same components in their PA systems as they did in their studio monitors used in mix-down of so much of the music that we still love. |
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That’s not much of a basis for qualified comparison here. Which JBL’s are those, and how are they (or the Altec’s) representative of a whole segment of speakers? Look, I believe we’ve been here before, but there’s nothing to support the narrative inkling towards modern pro drivers, or even a range of older dittos, being in particular marred by breakup modes. There’s tons of great pro drivers and horns out there with solid R&D behind them, and they don’t suddenly turn harsh when pushed - believe me. If they did they’d be out of business. Of course you could find cheaper "weaklings" among them with sub optimum horn profiles, flimsy material choice, less than stellar drivers and overall execution, and they would be the easy and even convenient target for field coil-, beryllium diaphragm-fitted and lovely hardwood housed speakers like your no doubt great Classic Audio Loudspeakers to make a case against them. Instead choose someone your own size, as they say; it would be most interesting to put together an all-out combination of partly DIY, off the shelf quality pro driver-fitted horn-based speaker setup at a likely much cheaper price, actively configured with horn subs and all, and then have a showdown for a more fair comparison. I’m not trying to belittle speakers as the ones you own, on the contrary, but if we want to make this a fair fight then let’s have the other party pull out their big guns as well :) |
@roxy54 , Look up the design details section on...for example, Perlisten speakers below...They are not a regular speaker. https://www.audioholics.com/tower-speaker-reviews/perlisten-r7t I know of these since it is the current rage with the "higher end" hifi/hometheater dudes. There may be others, don't know....Maybe, Meridian was tinkering with this kinda thing sometime ago.... |
@phusis You make a really good case- most of my experience with the speakers I mentioned didn't include any investigation of what was actually causing the harshness. I assumed a breakup because I got to compare a beryllium diaphragm made for the old Altec horn against the stock aluminum unit; I have to assume that difference really was on account of the differences in the diaphragms. The JBL to which I referred is the JRX115. Seems to me we had an expanded version of that speaker in the studio that used the same horn driver. A lower (not rock concert) levels it was pretty convincing in the mids and highs. It uses a Titanium diaphragm in the midrange. My CARs use a JBL tractrix horn which seems to work really well. He has since replaced this horn with a machined maple horn; but as I understand it his maple horns correct an error that was in the TAD maple horns he used to use.
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