Question about Bi-Wiring


My speakers, Martin Logan Motion 40's, are bi-wire capable.

But I have not tried to bi-wire them just yet.

I was wondering, if I were to get better jumper cables to replace the default metal plate jumpers that came with the speakers, would that accomplish the same results as actually bi-wiring the speakers

Or

Should I just go straight to actually bi-wiring?

Thanks

128x128jay73

I think the thing is that great pair of single runs to lower connectors give you a much fuller resolved low-mid info...in my experience.Only negative bi-wire is if doesnt sound good.All about trying.

If you already have high quality wire on hand is there a negative to bi-wiring?

If you already have wire, give it a try.

The cables that I have right now are AudioQuest Type 4.

I have been thinking about getting better cables anyway.

Right now I have the cables connected to the top terminals on the Logan’s but after reading @digsmithd comment, now I am wondering if that makes a difference also (when using just a single pair of cables). I guess I will have to try the lower terminals for now also and see if I hear a difference.

I am looking at some different cables and came across Cardas Parsec. They seem to be good cables and fall within the budget I think.

What do you all think of those, any experience?

I know in general, Cardas seems to make good cables.

If I go with those and like the upgrade, then I might eventually go full Cardas for everything.

@jay73 - ditch those little plates that couple the terminals and replace them with real copper wire.

  • Make each jumper 20" long
  • make each jumper from 2 strands of solid UP-OCC copper wire
  • 16 gauge or 14 gauge will suffice
  • use some sort of copper terminal i.e. spade or banana

You could even try Romex - it should work better than those plates

You should hear a noticeable improvement and it should not matter which terminals you connect the cables to.

Those little jumpers are very often made form brass or a copper alloy and they degrade the signal

Hope that helps - Steve

This is very funny. How would someone, anyone, would get advice from a Sherlock Holmes with lamp cord as speaker cables in the profile picture? 😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

Have you A/B’ed you cables against lamp cord? @thyname 
(You should also have noticed that the red and black are on tyhe wring terminals as well.)

The good news is that the new cables are in mail.
Or at least the company emailed to say that all parts of the order from ~5 months ago arrived, and I needed to call inm with new CC #.

The lamp cord did its job for months, and it did not sound bad.

 

The cables that I have right now are AudioQuest Type 4.

I have been thinking about getting better cables anyway.

In theory one could hook both of your AQ cables up to one speaker as a bi-wire, and lamp cord bi-wire to the other speaker.

Then shift the balance all the way to the AQ side and listen in mono as to whether a difference can be noted between bi wire or single. (Or a loaner side of the Cardas.)

The main reason for the lamp cord would be to ensure that the amp channel is not unloaded.

I suppose that you could also play stereo with the balance knob, and the thing should sound bad if the lamp cord is not working well.