Question about Bi-Wiring


My speakers, Martin Logan Motion 40's, are bi-wire capable.

But I have not tried to bi-wire them just yet.

I was wondering, if I were to get better jumper cables to replace the default metal plate jumpers that came with the speakers, would that accomplish the same results as actually bi-wiring the speakers

Or

Should I just go straight to actually bi-wiring?

Thanks

jay73

Showing 5 responses by holmz

Go straight to bi-wiring.
And it doesn’t need to be cables that are more expensive than the speakers.
But the ends that attach to the speaker and amp, are usually a good place for quality to ensure a nice connection.

And if you looked inside most speakers, they are not “rocking it” with multi k$ cables from the XO to the drivers, or from the binding posts to the XO… so don;t expect miracles.

So staying with the single cable is not a bad thing either.

This is very funny. How would someone, anyone, would get advice from a Sherlock Holmes with lamp cord as speaker cables in the profile picture? 😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

Have you A/B’ed you cables against lamp cord? @thyname 
(You should also have noticed that the red and black are on tyhe wring terminals as well.)

The good news is that the new cables are in mail.
Or at least the company emailed to say that all parts of the order from ~5 months ago arrived, and I needed to call inm with new CC #.

The lamp cord did its job for months, and it did not sound bad.

 

The cables that I have right now are AudioQuest Type 4.

I have been thinking about getting better cables anyway.

In theory one could hook both of your AQ cables up to one speaker as a bi-wire, and lamp cord bi-wire to the other speaker.

Then shift the balance all the way to the AQ side and listen in mono as to whether a difference can be noted between bi wire or single. (Or a loaner side of the Cardas.)

The main reason for the lamp cord would be to ensure that the amp channel is not unloaded.

I suppose that you could also play stereo with the balance knob, and the thing should sound bad if the lamp cord is not working well.

Well @thyname Michael Jackson was wearing masks before it became fashionable. So there is something there.

@pesky_wabbit yeah supply chain is probably it.

Luckily I was able to use the lamp cord as the fat 4’ AQ cables that connect to the monoblocks, would not stretch out to a stereo amp that replaced the blown monoblock(s).

The OP could also get some copper bar to replace the jumper on his speakers. Which should be easier to source with the supply chain dramas.

The speakers still sound great with lamp cords, but I did bi-wire them as they seemed a bit skinny. At least the picture is a true depiction of how it sits at the moment. Maybe it sound good because the speakers are good… but the bass end of the spectrum has been a bit thin.

As a result of bi-wiring, you just add lengths of wires, and therefore resistance.

Technically ^that^ is not correct.
The longer wire effectively would be double the size (area) of the same wire with a jumper, and lower resistance a touch.

But it would also not really matter a whole lot either.

The MR and Tweeter take up around half of the power, unless they ar e big floor standers.

ghd Prentice then you must have a hearing problem buddy because bi-wiring  a speaker that is designed to be bi-wired you can hear the difference no problem, but some speakers have four binding posts but they're not properly designed for biwiring but if they are then you will hear the sounds stage open up even more and gets wider and deeper more airy and spacious, so if you've been at this for so long and if you haven't heard a difference you better get your ears checked buddy cuz you don't know what you're talking about..

But he said this (about 6 posts into it which I have made Bold and underlined.):
 

Very true… good quality speaker cable first, and then biwiring. I used a set of Cardas Gold Reference for many years. The primary driver of the sound was the high quality… secondarily the bi-wiring… but to my surprise, bi-wiring was better. Always sounded silly… but it was a bit better.