Townshend Springs under Speakers


I was very interested, especially with all the talk.   I brought the subject up on the Vandersteen forum site, and Richard Vandersteen himself weighed in.   As with everything, nothing is perfect in all circumstances.  If the floor is wobbly, springs can work, if the speaker is on solid ground, 3 spikes is preferred.
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@audiopoint, Yes, we are now in the Nashville area and loving it.  Also, The Audiophile’s Wife is seriously considering writing again.  If fact, we are contemplating a shared site where we sell audio cables and she hosts her blog as well as other fun antics. 
I did have some Apprentice platrforms in my rig here for a season.  The speakers I used them under were the Acoustic Zen  Crescendo and my current Dali speakers which I have had for some 4-5 years now.  
Always liked the sound of your products and that Energy Room you built for Andrew is a listening experience I will never forget. Never! Just a sensory delight. Even the sound of my own voice was startling in that room. 

I do know that using springs on suspended wood floor construction works and I did the experiments.  My thought is that the floor was picking up the vibrations from the speakers and transferring the vibrations throughout the structure.  This caused bloated bass and smearing of the music. 

Those that have concrete floors would need to weigh in on their experience before and after springs. 
Just to throw my two cents in...

In addition to altering the number of springs and the position you put them in your Nobsound units, another thing you can try is getting 5/8 heat shrink tubing (non glue inside type) and cut it at the length of the spring then heat. Just enough spring will be exposed at the ends once shrunk to put them in the bases. This will dampen the springs action. Try doing some or all of them.

For those skeptical about the effects of spring footers (and it's good to be skeptical), we had a discussion over on ASR on the subject.
First I'd note that when I mentioned the sonic change from putting spring footers between my speakers and wood floor, a member there whose specialty was literally noise vibration (also did work for some turntable companies) replied:
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No surprise at all.

Spikes couple the speaker to the floor so, depending on the floor type, spiking the speakers to it is just like adding a huge area cabinet vibration to the sound.
Using polymer type footers only absorbs vibration at relatively high frequencies so couples the cabinet vibration to the floor at low frequencies as well.
Springs of the correct stiffness will decouple the speaker from the floor giving a similar increase in quality to a well engineered cabinet over a crappy one but probably bigger (coupled floor area being bigger than cabinet area).
It is basic noise and vibration stuff I used to do research in 45 years ago.
As a rule of thumb for the isolation to be effective over the whole frequency range the isolating springs will deflect around 1" due to the weight of the mass being decoupled. The smaller the deflection the higher the frequency above which isolation will be taking place."
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https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/springs-under-my-speakers-whats-happening...



Another member posted measurements showing coupling vs decoupling:


https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/speaker-de-coupling.13655/post-896618


Finally, this is very interesting.  It's a video from the Swiss speaker manufacturer Credo, explaining the effects of isolation vs a speaker sitting on a floor or spiked, demonstrated with measurements.


It includes measurements of a Townshend isolation platform along with their own platform measurements. They also measure the effects of such isolation in terms of the speaker sound in an actual room. It seems to map quite well to the effects I heard in my room:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ihzvD3urc4&t



Are we to believe speakers ring in the sub-hertz*** regions and this noise actually transcends into audible noise that the human ear easily detects?
Great question.
More to the point though in the application of loudspeakers, is that fact they reproduce the entire audible frequency range, and with that energise the enclosures.

If one where to consider the speaker enclosure as a very rigid balloon, that when the bass/mid-bass driver moves in and out will shake, pressurise and depressurise, especially when driven hard.

The bracing effectively creates smaller surface areas with distinct sizes of wall material, depending on the engineering qualities of the enclosure. This creates smaller nodes where frequencies can excite the enclosure walls.
An easy way to test this out on your own speakers is to play a frequency sweep of white noise, at levels you listen at in your own system. Assuming the track has the same amplitude throughout, you will hear the accumulated sound of the cabinet and the signal the driver is reproducing.

I heard a single Focal BE 1038 subjected to such a sweep and heard multiple large frequency breakouts from the cabinets, clearly colouring the voicing of the speakers. This largely evidenced what we heard when listening to a pair that had been traded in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSB-nmlbkdA
Nikola Tesla vs Mythbusters - this has some good information regarding this phenomenon.

So the bracing inside a speakers enclosure will create different frequency nodes that can be excited depending on the engineering controls of energies that are introduced to by the drivers, throughout the audible frequency range.

Engineering controls of vibrations can vary in effectiveness considerably, and will have an impact on the overall voicing the loudspeaker** delivers.

** distinctions are important when explaining anything, I often use the term drivers instead of speakers, because often people use the term speaker/s for that which I mostly use loudspeaker.**

*** Sub-hertz, are you referring to a frequency cycle under once cycle per second?