Vandersteen 3A Sigs vs Klipsch Forte III


I'd like to get input on a comparison of both of these speakers. I have not heard them. No dealers in my area. I realize it may be an apples to oranges match up to many but want to hear the pros and cons of both. Haters welcome!!  I'll be driving them with a Mac 6200 integrated. 75w into 8 ohms and 100w into 4 ohms. Room is 27x18x10h. I listen to all music. Some vinyl. Appreciate moderate base, clarity in vocals, imaging, and like the speakers to "disappear".  Thoughts?
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Phil, very interesting. I just saw a LaScalla II review, albeit by someone who sells them, and he commented that the II is much improved over previous. They are beasts and take a room that can accommodate. At least the top tweet and mid are removable from bottom cabinet for better handling. 
Phil, how do u assess their soundstage, imaging, depth, etc?
+1 Phil......When set up properly, the Lascalas can disappear, giving you that height, width and depth of a soundstage. But more importantly, it is that "effortless" quality you hear at a live performance. A buddy of mine owns some top of the line B & W speakers. I do not want this to be a hammering of the B&W or Vandys, Since owning horns for over 30 years ( with some other top brands and models ), nothing sounds " as live ", as said by Phil. Keep in mind, not everyone wants this or likes this, or has experienced this. This friend of mine comes over, and is always blown away. But, he goes home, happily, to his B&Ws. And I am sorry to say, the Fortes, even the series 3 ( I heard them briefly about a year ago at an audio meet in S. Florida ), are nothing to a pair of Lascalas. Lascalas can use good subs for that last octave, if you can find some that can keep up. MrD.
Most won't believe it but the La Scala is the best imaging speaker on the planet, IMHO.  The depth that the speaker creates is just uncanny. Like a mini monitor, the speaker totally disappears.  But unlike a small monitor the scale is so big, dynamic with a very full bass range.  The secret to the La Scala's imaging mastery is the "doghouse".  The bass horn, which is coherent with the mid and high frequency horns (no separate driver effects here) launches a sound wave unique to my ears.  The three dimensionality of the sound is not exceeded by anything else.  And I speak from experience.  I have owned or heard all types of speakers from boxes to electrostatics to magnetic planars to omnis to line sources to other horns , etc. The sound is huge but instruments stay focused with proper sizing.  The Avantgarde horns, also excellent, do not sound as convincing as the Klipsch probably do to this "doghouse effect".  The AG's also do not have the coherence since the bass is self-amplified unlike the Klipsch where one amp drives the whole system.

The La Scala gets to about 45 Hz in my setup.  It can be listened to without a sub.  But bass is the foundation of the live orchestral sound so a sub crossed over at about 35Hz fills the bass that is lacking. You can get the growl that the low strings have at a live classical concert.

I am not familiar with the original La Scalas but the II version has zero grain, glare or brightness.  It is ultra smooth sounding. 


The Lascala II has taken care of many of the weaknesses of the original. Thicker, less resonant cabinet ( especially noticeable with the doghouses ), upgraded crossover components, upgraded wire, etc. But, even the series II can be improved, but, it is my secret on how......sorry..........MrD.
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not really, Seattle and Cleveland before that....

but it I think you have witnessed apples and Octopus writ large, could not get two more different approaches and speaker companies and designers.... and sounds...