Why do dealers do this?


I'm an old fashioned guy. I like to make my audio purchases from a store and have a person I deal with, establish a relationship, and know that I have someone I can call when I need things. That is why I went into one of the larger stores in my area the other day, ready to audition a couple of things and buy my system. I had a very clear idea of what I wanted, asked to listen to a component with a view to buying it.
The dealer had a completely wrong approach from the start, and it is not a unique situation. I know many good folks in the business are on these forums, so I want to ask why this happens.
From the moment I set foot in the store he created an atmosphere of fairly intense pressure. He started with "you know, I only demo for buying customers". Throughout the visit, I felt continuously pressured to buy on the spot. I was forced to cut my visit short and I was unable to fully appreciate the component I was auditioning. I went from wanting to buy to wanting to run away - who feels comfortable buying something when pressured and rushed to do so right away? So I left the store unsure that I would want to do business with him. Had I had a good experience, and a knowledge that I can go to the store any time and have a good experience rather than have to find a way to "escape" the pressure I would not only have been happy to buy what I wanted, but would have been back often for other purchases. I cannot for the life of me understand where this comes from. One argument I heard is that store owners don't want to have people audition things and then buy online. Well, first off short of refusing to have a show room I don't see how you can make completely sure of that. So, wouldn't making the customer feel comfortable in your store be a better strategy? For me, I now want to shop online rather than go back. And here is one more twist. All online dealers for the product I was looking at make it clear they will not sell to anyone who has a dealer in their area. So I could not buy that online anyway!!
Can anyone enlighten me? Why can I not go to a local store and have that be a pleasant experience any more?
roc_doc
i'm not running for president. you have to be nuts to run for president. most people have no interest in the office.
Was it Henry the 8th or Shakespeare or said" First,lets kill all the lawyers and politicians?"Some of you girls/boys would believe Mc Cain if he said he was black and Obama if he said he will cure cancer.Never underestimate the power of denial.Now back to the news....
>>10-17-08: Mrtennis
i'm not running for president<<

And the world's a better place for that but you didn't answer my question.

Please re-read and give it a shot.

Thank you.
Does this thread (or any on Audiogon) really need to be discussing politics?

There are other web sites better suited to such discourse if people feel the need to make their political thoughts known.

I'd rather see Audiogon stick to the intended subject.
hi bill:

sometimes your questions and your sly sardonic tone do not require a response. thank you for keeping me mentally sharp.
Thanks Mrt.

Whether or not we have two stooges running for President is irrelevant I suppose.

You have, however, assisted me in identifying the third and heretofore missing stooge.
no wonder the world thinks americans are idiots

Tut Tut Mr. T.

I thought you were an avid listener to classical chamber music...

Now we have discovered a deeper side - the onion has layers!

Is it indeed possible that Mr T. has been listening to Green Day?
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Roc_Doc

My experience was just the opposite. I borrowed speakers from one dealer and brought them to another who sells another line of speakers. They helped me to bring them in, installed them with their best gear and played couple of hours switching speakers. At the end I told them I still like speakers I brought in more and they had no problem with it (very friendly). What happened to you was ridiculous and you're probably not the only customer that will never go back. I wonder how long they will stay in business. Don't loose hope - there are good dealers.

Many companies don't allow to sell their stuff over the phone or internet.
hi shadorne:

what is green day ? i do not listen to classical music very often.

hi bill: please enlighten me as to the third stooge. in addition please explain your reasoning for your selection. are you an authority on stooges ?
I believe this thread has hit the wall.

Moderator, please terminate with extreme prejudice :)
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Mr T. Here you go and using a quotation without reference is plagiarism! (just kidding)
Back to the main topic... I have been buying mail order since the '70's- both camera gear and stereo gear. I didn't do it exclusive of shop owners but usually because what I wanted was not available to me locally. I have no problem paying a little more at a local store because I want him there for the service as well as to demo the hardware. The occasional shop owner that was not good to work with or had only his profits in mind never lasted too long.

The days of gigantic, price above service, chain stores will run it's course. They are the ones that will succumb first to internet shopping. Because if price is all that matters and I can get it a dollar cheaper delivered to my door, then why bother even driving to the mega warehouse?

The successful shop owners are the ones that can demonstrate a real value of their services to customers. And the best customers are the ones that see real value for their service. It's not for everyone- many will still look only for the bottom dollar.
I went to the local Mercedes dealership to test drive the new AMG 63 (@$55k). I pulled up in my 1994 Jeep Cherokee. I was told that that car could not be taken out for a test drive.
Five days later I stopped by again on my way home from the office wearing a suit in my 2008 BMW 535i and asked to test drive the MB AMG 63 and the keys were in my hand in 3 minutes! The ass clown salesman did not even realize that I was the same person he denied 5 days earlier. After driving I refreshed his memory and gave the "judging a book by its cover" speech to him. It probably did no good.

I bought a new M3 BMW instead.
Cajunpepe, in St. Pete. I drove into a Ferrari dealership in a rental Chevy, which I thought I had parked out of view from the show room. All I wanted to see was whether or not I could sit in the spyder, the model now escapes me. You would have thought that I had the plague. Finally, they let me sit in one. I am long waisted and 6'2". Had I bought that car, I would have always risked decapitation.

The guy who showed me to the car, seemed indifferent to my concern, but I realized that I was never to own a Ferrari. Porsches fit me quite well as did older Alfas.
I option to purchase according to need and situation but I also have several outstanding storefront dealers in my area who have no problem not only auditioning specific equipment, but also bringing good deals to my attention. In that case I would probably purchase from them but it has seemed to no way affect the attentions I receive from excellent dealers.

Another situation arose when I recently purchased a TT from a local dealer. He offered me an open box price which matched online prices and re-checked the set up for me for free before leaving.

If I wanted to purchase a DAC or a solid state amp, I would probably buy online based on experience and or recommendations.

Just as I would change the water filters in my home but I would call a plumber to change my water heater, I believe there is a market for both the online sellor and storefront sales. Having said that, those that earn my business receive my business and those that mess with me don't see me again.