Hi Montepilot,
Congratulations on your system. It certainly is of the highest calibre and able to illuminate the qualities of all your cartridges.
What you hear....you hear. And you are certainly in the majority of high-end analogue listeners in your preferences. This in itself makes me doubt my hearing ability or the resolving power of my own system....but in the end....it's only about what we each individually hear and like?
To echo Danny's sentiment......I'm glad you have found your audio Nirvana.
Henry |
Montepilot, I agree with you regarding detail and resolution. There's no disputing your results. There's a big movement lately about preferring musicality over detail, but I don't think it's an either/or proposition. Sometimes it might seem that way mostly due to equipment limitations. But many people seem to genuinely feel that too much detail goes beyond that from a live event. So it brings up the question, if you were in a club or concert would you hear those details of Ella's voice or the rice on the drum head. Personally, I think the point is moot. Those details are on the recording, regardless.
Regarding ICs in the phono stage. Raul doesn't know what he's talking about, although he's entitled to his opinion. The fact of the matter is that discreet components can't do what good ICs do in many areas of performance. Having a million parts all connected with wire or traces on a board is only superior because of old school prejudice and inferior designs using ICs. Most designers don't know how to effectively regulate ICs. I haven't heard the F-115, but seeing pictures of Samuels board, it looks like he might know what he's doing. Nevertheless, it doesn't change your results.
Raul, I've reached the conclusion that Soundsmith is right. You're a preamp manufacturer masquerading as a hobbyist. Even if your production is limited and not generally available, you've offered it for sale. Hasn't it been going through revision? Planning to start up production? What the hell is going on with that tape ball cartridge, are you dishonest as well? |
Dear Fleib: Certainly I know what I'm saying. The subject is that you designed an ICs electronics so you have to support it but that does not means is the best way to go only an alternative: as Albertporter said " different ways to skin the cat ".
As with the cartridges on electronics does not exist the " perfect " and the ICs designs are not perfect. As I posted: advantages and disadvantages.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear friends, This thread is going in the wrong direction. Besides the abvious intolerance there are also personal accusations based on speculation and quesework. We are not the 'resolution centre' like the one by ebay. To try to involve us in personal matters is not done and even improper. Why should I be put in the position to choose between Raul and Don? We all know that Raul owns and owned more than 100 carts. No need to be Einstein to deduce that he was involved in more the 100 transactions with many different persons without any known problems. It is also understandable that he sells some of his carts. I am sure that he can earn more money by selling by ebay or Audiogon. I personaly would sell to a comember only if I am 100% sure about the person. Mike is the only one so far. This is because the possible problems among comrades are much harder judged then otherwise. So far the only problem I know about is with Don. What I do know from my own experience is the fact that a seller can impossible defend him self against the accusation that the item is not as described or received as damaged. But who will sell a damaged cart? Everyone knows in advance what the result will be. So because of my own experience I want to defend Raul for the reasons mentioned. For himslef it is much harder to do. If Raul was dishonest we would hear more reports about that then just one.
Regards, |
I would like to make a comment regarding home audio listening verses attending a real live event such as being in a club, orchestra hall etc. It is simply impossible to duplicate a real life experience in a outside venue in our homes using electronic equipment.
When Banquo says we do not focus on things like detail retrieval, hall ambience, hearing the breathing of musicians etc. when listening to music at a live event he is quite correct. But I believe there is a reason for this. At a live event the sum of the experience is greater than just the musicians playing on a stage. As an example, I recall many years ago going to the Jazz Club Keyston Corner in Sanfrancisco to hear the Max Roach quartet. Max had gotten there late but when he walked through the front door wearing his black fedora and trench coat carrying his bass the atmosphere in the club became highly charged. I believe that the collective enthusiasm of the crowd itself is also felt on a subliminal level. His mere presence, that gigantic persona he projected effected the aura, the ambience of the room. Now Keystone Corner's stage was small and musicians croweded each other for a place on stage. So the idea that you could separate individual players in the audiophile sense was not even under consideration. What I am trying to convey is that in a live setting there is so much more going on around us which is not visible to the human eye or ear but goes into the mix of the live experience. Under these conditions no one gives a hoot about soundstage, detail retrieval, recording hall ambience etc. etc. All of these audio considerations are way too restrictive to a live event.
That is why I say the home listening experience is an animal of another sort. The two experiences do not exist on the same plane. So in my home listening experience since I do not have all of those ineffable que's that exist naturally in a live setting and are second nature, I think we set out to fill in as much of that experience with transparency, detail retrieval and all the audiophile stuff we routinely talk about. Not all recordings deliver this, but when they do its nice to hear. For the record there are a large number of records I own that do not have these audiophile qualites and yet I get great enjoyment from them.
My apologies for going off the topic of MM vs MC but I thought it was tangential to what we have been discussing. It would be good to hear from other folks on what their objective is when they switch cartridges. What did the new MM give you that the previous one did not in the context of the listening experience.
Kind regards, |
Montepilot, here is a consideration about detail:
You described Max Roach, "when he walked through the front door wearing his black fedora and trench coat carrying his bass". That is interesting since Roach was a drummer.
Now I suppose he could have been carrying his bass drum, but why would that be?
But considering detail in playback, my opinion is this is a result of modern close-mic recording technics. In a live performance we don't typically hear the musician breathing (perhaps other than Glenn Gould), the page turning, or the chair squeaking. They may have been "real" events but they are too low in level to be heard from much distance in a live audience situation. Therefore I am far more interested in the tonal representation of the instruments and how well the emotion of the performance is conveyed. Mouse farts into a cotton ball can easily be ignored. |
Pryso, You are correct about Max being a drummer. As I was quickly writing I was trying to visualize from memory an experience that happened more than 30 years ago. Pardon the error. Regards, |
Nandric,
I generally find it hard to follow your sentences (English obviously not being your first language) but does your account (03-18-12) really display the claimed maturity of not taking sides regarding Don and Raul?
I believe this is also not the first time that this thread has been used as a vehicle to warn others of sellers who might seem dodgy and so I think Don has been treated slightly harshly for voicing his apparent frustrations. This is not to take sides as I do not know Raul's account but I do find certain interventions here very strange.
Just saying.
As always... |
Dgob, You may have problems with my English but I have problem with your logic. If you are not able to understand my sentences than you can't deduce anything from them. But you obviously do. I checked your reference to my post from 3-18-12 and have no idea how you deduced anything about 'maturity' and 'taking sides' from my post. As a lawyer I also need to explain to you that our forum is not a tribunal nor a law court. Besides we all got important information and advice from Raul for years and for free so he at least deserves some consideration. You have non whatever as is obvious from the context in which you put this case: to warn the comembers against the swindlers. I know such kind of people as you are but those are not among my friends nor comrades. |
Nandric, with those arguments in your last two post hopefully you are not a deffense attorney :). |
Nandric,
The following is a quote from Raul on this forum.
"02-11-12: Rauliruegas Please return to me and I return your money and I take shipping both sides. I'm not a seller of second hand cartridges and that's why you can take your money."
I returned the cartridge per his request. He has the cartridge but refuses to give me the refund.
This is neither "speculation or guesswork". They are facts. You being a attorney perhaps you would be so kind as to give me your definition of criminal fraud! Regards, Don |
Hi Don, 'criminal fraud' is a case for the criminal justice. Contractual issues belong to the civil law (suit). This is a very important division in all modern societies. It is about the responsibility. In the first case the person in casu is responsible in the second the property of the person in casu is, as it is called,'liable'. The 'speculation or quesswork' is about the transport and customs because there is no way to tell where the damage is caused. This is anyway my own experience . Not to get involved in those annoying procedures I prefer to take my loss despite the fact that I know to have posted the item in good condition. To sell a damged cart (or whatever) without description of the damage is stupid because one can be 100% sure in advance about the consequence. But irrespective of the 'guilt question' in the contractual case one should fulfil what one promises.
Regards, |
Hello Nandric, I agree with you that it is better to take the loss "even though I know to have posted the idem in good shape." I know what it"s like to open a new toy and when opened it is broken. Great disappointment! I think it is my responsibility until the buyer opens and accepts the idem.
I recently sold my old turntable to a guy who was very excited to get a better turntable. When it arrived one of the leads had broken and he was unable to repair. He ordered some new wire which was really cheap by our standards and I refunded that part of the money. I felt really bad that he could not enjoy his new toy but it instead became another problem in life to deal with. I think we all have enough problems without adding more for others.
Not trying to look like a saint ,as I sure can rationalize with the best. |
I am not sure why spellcheck did not catch my typing errors. |
Dear Acman3, My problem with 'calling names' and even criminal accusations against Raul are based on the following arguments. First: the criminal law and criminal justice are intended as 'public good'. Ie the protection of all sitizens. The contract law on the other hand apply only to the members involved in the contract. Only those members can claim rights and /or obligations from each other. This is probable the reason for the expression: 'mind your own business'. Now regarding this case between Raul and Tom. I thought that it should be easy to comprehend and 'grasp' the possibilities: 1. Raul sold intentionaly a damaged cart; 2. the cart was damaged in transport;3. the cart was damaged by custom inspection and 4. the cart was damaged by Tom. Those are the possibilities so any direct conclusion imply the certain knowledge about what was actualy the case. Those that are able to predict this should start an 'fortune telling' business. There are however layman experts everywehre. I come the first one across in the subject of vaccination while my dear Lew who is a real expert in this field posted 3 contributions about this issue without any succes. I had no idea btw that he can be so patient. So thanks to this imbecile I learned more about Lew. If we knew in advance where the knowledge 'hides' many things will be much more simple. Anyway the fact that Raul wrote this promise to Tom about compensation in no way imply that Raul deed anything wrong. To assume that he was wrong means to be sure that Raul posted a damaged cart to Tom. Who is willing to claim such a knowledge? I also learned from Lew's experince reg. vaccination not to get involved in discussion with layman legal experts.
Regards,
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Hello Nikola, My answer to you was in general and not specific to Raul and Don's situation, however it may apply.
I will take your advise and mind my own business. |
Dear Sushi Lovers,
For those among you who have considering flirting with the dark side, i.e., LOMCs; Comet Supply is once again stocking the Denon DL-S1 for less than $600. I have already placed my order.
Raul,
Do you think it will be a good match with my PS Audio GCPH phono stage? It's dead quiet and has very high gain.
John
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Dear Jbethree3: That PS Audio phono stage is better that we can think and yes it will works with your DL-S1. I hope you enjoy this best ( IMHO ) Denon ever.
Your feedback is welcome.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
I finally got off the couch and repaired my very modified ARC PH-2 balanced MM phono stage. Time to get back to the high life of MM/MIs after a long and satisfying side-bar with a DL-S1. John, it is certainly worth the $600. Given renewed discussion of the Astatics, the first to bat is the venerable MF-100. Even with a casual initial set-up, it's instantly apparent that this is a top performer. Big warm presentation with lots of detail, nuance, and immediacy. There is a trace of sibilance that will doubtless resolve with refinements to set-up. |
Got a NOS Garrott P77 from Estonia today. Packed in postal box and another phone box inside with lots of bubble wrap, but custom inspectors obviously did not open to inspect.
Sounds a little slow out of the box but pretty excited about this find.
Montepilot, another reason to own so many cartridges is just plain curiosity, and the price to hear the hard to find cart is reasonable. |
Thanks Raul,
It took over 200 hours before the PS Audio really settled in. I only wish it had 70k and/or 100k loading option(s) and don't know if it can be modified. The DL-S1 will have some pretty stiff competition from the 4000D/III and MF-200.
John
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Hello John, I was wondering what you thought about the Astatic MF 300 you purchased?It's OK if you didn't like it. Just wondering.
Danny |
I've heard all of the mm cartridges mentioned on this thread. My Denon 103r beats them all. You folks should stop drinking the mm kool aid. |
Chopin123, anyone who has troubled to listen to every mm cartridge mentioned in this thread deserves a bigger prize than a Denon 103R. |
Two troll post out of nearly 7000 is not bad.
Chopin, I'm glad you like your Denon. |
Dear Chopin123: It is weird, you are Agon member since 2008 and this is your very first post ever. Certainly you choosed the right thread to " win " slef notorious.
I can believe that you heard some of the cartridges mentioned through the thread but I think is almost imposible to heard all even me that I'm so fast to test cartridges I have several cartridges ( mentioned here ) that till today I had/have no time to tested.
That you like more the 103R means almost nothing against the MM/MI cartridges you compared because between other things that kind of comparisons depends not only on each one targets but on how good is the audio system and your skills to make the right set up to each cartridge.
If the 103 is your champion certainly you deserve it that king of performance level and nothing more.
Thank's to post here, welcome any time.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Chopin, Such statements are called 'provocative', 'teasing' or 'sardonic'. But if your intention is to provoke Raul to name this misterious MC cart you should select something better. BTW do you prefer Polonaises above Mazurkas?
Regards, |
Hi Nandric,
"I know such kind of people as you are but those are not among my friends nor comrades."
That is disappointing
As always... |
Hi Nandric,
"As a lawyer I also need to explain to you that our forum is not a tribunal nor a law court."
Thank you
As always... |
Hi Dgob, Despite the fact that my English is not my 'first language' ( is actually my fifth) you or I made obviously some progress because you had no difficulty to understand the quoted sentences. BTW I thought that the correct expression is the 'native language' . There are many kids at present with parents from different countries which are called bilingual. Ie very difficult to know which language they learn first and which as second.
Regards, |
Danny,
I am somewhat ashamed to admit that I have only played 3 or 4 sides with the Mf-300, so it's too soon to form an opinion but my initial reaction was positive. I have been enjoying the Empire 4000D/III way too much (especially with Emmylou's voice), I'm not ready to give it up and seriously audition any others yet.
FFT: Did Chopin123 jump the gun a few hours before April Fools Day or is he really a Denon loving, mid-fi, LOMC sychophant? Let's hope it's the former and when he reads this thread he yells "gotcha".
John
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Hi John, Strange those 'rulers of the universe' . Each year again and again they forget the first of April... I myself have as excuse the dilemma between: sonatas, ballades, etudes, preludes and so on...
Regards, |
Raul,
" If the 103 is your champion certainly you deserve it that king of performance level and nothing more. "
this statement reveals your arrogance, which is usually couched within your heapin' helping of benevolence.
Since the mf200 (I've had 2) is your king of the hill this week, may you have nothing more.
BTW, why won't you answer the charges? |
Dear Storyboy, In different countries 'the same things' are called different. So the 'arogance' in one country may be called 'proudness' in some other. What the Dutch call 'obstinate' in my beloved Serbia is called 'bravery'. Considering the Spanish conception of 'pride' I am sure that Raul will find some solution for the problem with Tom.
Regards, |
Hi Nandric,
"BTW I thought that the correct expression is the 'native language'."
There are so many "correct" expressions within our language, dependent on context, that it would take me quite some time to clarify. However, "native" language is often seen to have cultural overtones that are avoided by the use of listed reference: to wit, "first" language.
And I do commend your use of English, even if at times I find difficulties in grasping what you are seeking to convey. I hope rudeness is not the outcome.
On a related point, unless he is directly asking you to do so in some off-site correspondence, I feel Raul doesn't really need you to charge in to ward off every perceived attack - especially where such an attack does not exist. Or maybe I am wrong!?
As always... |
Hi Dgob, Your illusion is that you can understand each and every English sentence provided that the sentence is writen by someone whose English is his 'native' or, in your vocabulary,his 'first' language. Try Donald Davidson's ''Intending'' ( Assays on Action&Events)who is a born American. I want mention 'assays' about particle physics, etc. You know there were many scientist from Europe like Einstein, Godel, Tarsky, Carnap, etc. who become university teachers in America while speaking 'broken English' with a strong German accent. And,mirabile dictu, they enriched the American intellectual level. This is probable to complex for you to understand. But the question what you are able to understand and what not is primary your own problem. |
Regards, Chopin 123: Welcome to the thread. The DL103, in one incarnation or another, has been in production since 1962. There must be some reason for this. My first "hi-end" audio purchase was an Infinity Bl. Widow TA, first heard in 1977 with a DL103D. The B.W. was occasionally removed from it's box and admired for two years before a "young marrieds'" budget concerns finally allowed replacing the Dual 1219 with a SP-25 for the B.W. Stacked Large Advents at the other end and an AT SUT/Kenwood KA-7100 integrated amp in-between, the rig was everything EXCEPT refined.
Still learning, it would be appreciated if you might tell us what factors led you to your conclusion. It should come as no surprise that there is resistance encountered when proclaiming a particular cartridge as "L'ultimo", the influences of down-stream components approach infinity in their variations and consequently unqualified blanket statements might best be eschewed. There's also the studiously avoided question of taste.
Thanks for the opportunity to reminisce, any elaboration you care to post would be added to the bank of knowledge (and opinion) this thread represents. Around this bunch, gotta' be careful with those absolutes though.
Peace, |
Dear Storyboy: +++++ " this statement reveals your arrogance " +++++
I don't think so. Let me tell you something: that person posted that he prefers his 103R against " any single cartridge named here ".
I own the 103 and owned the 103R and I know and have very clear its quality performance level that's very good for the price these current Denon models have but this does not means that can beats not one of the very top MM/MI vintages but ( for example ) the Grace Ruby or the AT-20SS.
Do you think that a stock 103R could beats the Technics P100CMK4 ( for example ).?, IMHO the only chance to do it is because a wrong Technics overall set up.
For that person the 103 performance level is what he liked and then that's all what he deserve. Which the problem to posted in this way: arrogance? well that's your opinion mine is that that is what that person is " living " with.
Nandric posted that that post was " provocative " but IMHO was not provocative but almost stupid one because there is no single explanation by him as : why he think what he posted? or at least two-three cartridge comparison tests he experienced against his 103R even we don't know not only if his 103R is a modified cartridge and certainly we all don't know which audio system he owns and under which circumstances he made all those cartridge comparisons tests.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Rual,
your arrogance is in wishing him no greater height than the 103r. People afflicted with an excess of it need an occasional admonishment (and usually dismiss it unless they have humility running through their veins). You could learn from Acman3's response.
I am well aware of the Denon's limitations. I've been doing this since the late 70's having amassed a cartridge collection greater than your own. I have owned and still own almost every Holy Grail you've 'discovered' including some you have not. I also repair and create cartridges of my own so I know of what I speak. My latest creation is a FR1 mk3 grafted with a hollow boron tube and micro-ridge. And you should hear MY mf100 slightly modified. The last 'suggestion' I gave on this thread went ignored to your loss.
" what he liked and then that's all what he deserve " may your mf200 serve you well then, judging by that standard. Pride, arrogance; nonsense by any other name.
Am I the only one who has noticed your propensity for defensiveness, always making with the justifications? |
Storyboy,
"Am I the only one who has noticed "
No, you most certainly are not! |
Dear Griffithds, The (language) philosopher disagree even about the question how to call the 'language tool' to express a thought. There are : sentences, statements and propositions. Some are against 'propositions' (Quine,etc)but I think that in any discussion a kind of cooperation is involved which imply a willingness to understand what 'the other' means or want to say. If we persist on sentences (as writen) we nead to read them like the computer. Ie 'without mercy'; forget the 'dot' forget your e-mail. So your willingness or cooperation would mean to read Storyboy's sentence as a proposition. Meaning : I am the first one who noticed something 'nasty'(aka 'the arogance') about Raul. Then you can read the whole thread once more and check. This way you would be able to deny the sentence, the statement as well the proposition with more force. Say: 'sorry Story, but you was the nr.26 in the row'. However there is no way to deny the claim of my uncle Boris to be the first who rediscovered the MM carts. Alas, this also apply to the bilingual kids regarding the question which language was their first. BTW it is impossible to comprehend how those kids can learn two languges at the same time so easily. That is to say considering the fact that their own dad whose English was not his first language speaks this language in a 'broken way' with some strange accent after,say, 20 years of practice. The other advantage of the propositions may be obvious in my discussion with Dgob. He persist on sentences and complain about the fact that my English is not my first language and probable blame my English grammar for the consequence .Ie the difficulty he has to understand them. But it may be the case that he does not understand my propositions; the toughts expressed. As Frege explained 100 years ago: the same thought can be expressed in different ways.If this was not so we would need a peculiar capacity to know and remember each and every word available in the English dictionary. So to blame my English is a different proposition from blaming himself for not being able to understand my thoughts. I am very reluctant to comment on anybody's English. But consider all possible claims against Raul because of his English...
Regards,
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Raul, I wasn't going to post on this thread until the tape ball incident was cleared up, but I'm compelled to comment. I didn't design the phono stage that you thought, and I have no financial interest in any currently manufactured product. I suspect that you, on the other hand, are using this platform to launch commercial products, namely a preamp, tonearm, and possibly a cartridge. I don't know the extent of this but I do know that you have offered the preamp for sale.
" If the 103 is your champion certainly you deserve it that king of performance level and nothing more. "
While I don't see that comment as arrogant, it is nasty and mean spirited. If that opinion is so absurd, why the invective about what someone deserves? Isn't this thread intended to enlighten and inform? It's obvious to me that you're stalling to maintain interest. That's why you haven't named the mystery MC cart. How long before a refund in the tape ball incident, and why no comment? You're looking to buy more carts while this is unresolved?
You can no longer dismiss my comments about preamps because I designed AHT. I didn't. The fact remains that ICs are superior in some areas of performance. I noticed that your mystery MC revelation came right on the heels of a redesign of your MC stage. Why is your system down now, redesigning the MM section? You might have tried many carts, but your opinion isn't the last word and I don't defer to it, especially considering that your preamp is probably second rate. How many other MC will now give superior performance? Need more time while the MM section catches up? Why are you turning this into a soap opera? Regards, |
OK Guys:
April 1st was APRIL FOOLS DAY and now it's over! Chopin666 really stirred things up here. Do you think maybe that's what he had in mind? And is now laughing his ass off while listening to his cherished 103R.
John
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Dear Fleib,'this thread intend to enlighten and inform.' Well despite the fact that I have no idea how those IC's work I know that they 'sit' in my (expensive) Bisis Exclusive phono-pre. The problem of a layman is that he has the inclination to believe everything from anyone who is considered to be 'expert' or the authority in whatever. Well I have also seen some 'denigratory remarks' about those IC's in general but I was /am in particular worried about those in my phono-pre and (hypothetical) those that may be in my Emitter II Exclusive (never looked inside because this would not be of any help). The reason for my worry: such an amount of money and you can't sleep nor really enjoy your 'gear' because of uncertainty. As soon as this naggish hypothetical question 'what if...' occur it is done with one's mental rest. So you can see that your contribution already produced the intended results. I just switched my 'German artillery' on to warm up. And for all possible enemies of IC's I have a clear answer: they are superior according to my buddy Fleib. Thanks!
Regards, |
Dear Fleib: Good to know you don't design AHT. This is the second-three times where we discuss about and if my memory don't fail in one of those ocasions you posted was the designer but now I can't be sure till I find out that post.
Anyway nice to read that: +++ " ICs are superior in some areas of performance. " +++++ that's in " some " and that's similar of what I posted: " advantages and disadvantages, nothing is perfect ". The bigger disadvantage ( IMHO ) is that to achieve low distortions IC handle and works with hundred of feedback dbs and feedback has a " bad " signature " that IMHO uneven the ICs advantages.
Btw, my audio system is down for very different reasons. For your information the MM section just from the begining catches up and that's why this thread started. Only if my audio system can make " justice " to the MM/MI alternative I can post and posted whay you already read over the thread.
++++ " especially considering that your preamp is probably second rate " +++++
certainly that is something that you can't confirm but there are other persons that think is first rate and I can tell you that's second to none by design, quality design, quality's excecution and second to none quality performance level. Any time you want could confirm my statement.
In the other side and as Nandric pointed out Agon forum is not a tribunal and I don't need and don't feel the necessity to give you or to give to any other persons any single explanation about. It is clear to me that as you some other persons here are not not only my friends but persons whom I don't like them and try to take advantage any time they can.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Nikola - you said. However there is no way to deny the claim of my uncle Boris to be the first who rediscovered the MM carts. I am curious - what was Uncle Boris' favourite MM ? |
And while were waiting for Uncle Boris to reply; Storyboy, would you mind telling us your favorite MM/MI cartridges have been over the last 30 years? Maybe even the Gem's we have not discovered yet. |
Good point Danny – but wait - Nikola (oh sorry I meant to say Boris) and Storyboy - further to what Danny posted; if you would be so kind to email me your favourite choices at:
MMNut@Crazyplace.com
I just need 12 hours lead time to hit ebay. (btw - I am in the eastern time zone and like to go to bed by 1am) |
From a simple enthusiast's perspective, regards: A root of an equation is a number which substituted into the equation instead of an unknown then converts the equation into an identity. The root is now said to satisfy the equation. Solving an equation implies finding all of its roots. An equation that is always satisfied, no matter the the choice of values for its unknowns, is called an identity.
Discrete, or IC said the blind man?
In my ignorance, it seems that effect is superior to description, or that function precedes form. Dimensional or other physical considerations excluded, and as I'm not technologically competent, it still seems when there are two means of achieving an identical outcome, to argue the other as the penultimate solution is pointless.
Hopefully there will not be any perceived argument posed in the above. Two teams playing under the same guidelines with the same objectives meet in the NCAA basketball championship tonight. The "unit" assembled with superior "components" as well as appropriate application will be victorious. In this event there is some admitted bias, Go Ky. Wildcats!
Peace, |
There is a NOS Empire 2000Z in the mail to me. Does anyone have experience with this model or have a sense of where its performance stands within the Empire hierarchy? |