Hello Acman3 / Danny, your reminder about the virtues of the Astatic MF-200 is appreciated! I've been similarly awestruck for the past few weeks, albeit over a Stanton 881S, and your post was enough to get me to listen to some Sibelius with my MF-200. Glorious! Thanks again :)
Jim |
Raul,
Did you recieve my email from Axel in reference to the damaged/unrepairable Empire carrtridge you sold me.
Regards, Don |
Dear Stltrains: I assume you bought this stylus replacement for your Empire ( and that you received what is in the photo. ):
http://adelcom.net/EmpireStylus1.htm
that stylus replacement is not an original one but an after market that you can see it on ebay for 40.00-60.00 when A>delcom has it on sale for over 250.00
I don't know ehre in this thread but this precise Empire case was treated for us and that's why almost no one took the replacement from Bluz Bros.
Now, the original D3 is a better performer than the Gold.
For what you posted that after market replacement is better of what we can imagine.
Btw, the Empire original replacements comes with the Empire name in the stylus guard and with the curly ( logo ) that identify Empire originals.
Anyway, good that you are satisfied with its perfromance.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Griffithds: I don't know what is the " deal " behind your post.
people here could think that I have on sale cartridges out of work which is not true because as any other the cartridges you bought from me all were in working condition, including that one.
Please return to me and I return your money and I take shipping both sides. I'm not a seller of second hand cartridges and that's why you can take your money. If I was a seller you can't do it.
If any other of the cartridges you bought from me has a problem or does not like you please return to me and I'm very pleased to make the same.
I appreciate that your post will be your last one on that subject and I appreciate too that don't email me about ever other that to give me your Paypal account.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Jbethree: I agree with Lewm, not trusty. Please read what I posted to Stttrains on this subject.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Hi Raul,
The "deal" behind the post was nothing more than a question. Please reread. It only required a Yes or No answer. That's all. Thank you for your reply even though you still haven't answered my "deal"?
Regards, Don |
Hello Raul this is a link to a picture of your review 4000d3 http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/rv/s/f/1274997605.jpg
This is what i bought from bluz brothers for 250 us. Like other cartridges you've reviewed and posted about has saved us the trial and error. From my perspective a no loose choice.
I have since my audiophile journey began many years ago always if humanly possible to have the most listenable system possible. Because i listen to a lot of music. And being its Saturday night i most likely will be at it till early Sunday morning. Peace love and rock and roll Mike |
Stltrains...are you saying then that the picture Bluz Bros has on their website of the Empire 4000D3 replacement stylus is not what you got then? Your post, if I read it correctly, makes it sound like you got the stylus assembly that Raul shows in his pic which doesn't match what they show on the website for sale. If that is the case, I'm curious how long ago you made the purchase? |
hello mab33 when i bought my stylus back in october of last year i spent a good 45 minutes with the sales person whos name i have forgot. he mentioned that he had the gold version and he described the first version which i dont think he knew it was. the way he described the stylus was very cool the golds were in multi packs and the other was in there own plastic boxes. like i said my buying experience was first rate and bluz brothers was ok by me.
there is a difference in body styles between the original and gold the gold has a plastic mounting arrangement for headshell attachment and the orginal has metal like in rauls pictures. the original stylus rides lower in my gold then does the gold stylus does. must have something to do with how the mounting worked out for the cartridges with the same model number but slightly different. wow something we have been talking about with akg in a differnt way.
i have removed my 4000d3 from playback now but after i had broke it in back in november i had our local audio club meeting and some very experienced ears commented on how nice my systems playback was with d3 at the source. a very fine cartridge with the orginal stylus a bit better than the gold imo. if you can put your hands on one go for it. mike |
Dear Stltrains: Ok, then you have the original one and as I posted and you experienced is better than the Gold one.
So, why in the Bluz Bros site appear a different picture?
Anyway, good to know we can find out original D3 stylus replacements where the price seems to me fair. Perhaps that is the only soiurce for that stylus replacement.
I remember that I had a " problem " with BB when I was looking for an Acutex 320 ( sqare-flat nose. ) stylus replacement and I ask him if the one he pictured was NOS ( original ) and he told me: yes, when certainly was not true. I can't remember whom but some one else posted in this thread a " misleading " with a Signet replacement.
So, there were 3-4 " problems " against one satisfied customer as you are.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Acman3: Iown the MF200 and 300 and owned the 100. I don't heard it for years but now that you bring the Astatics here the only time I tested the 200 and 300 I remember was " hooked " by the 300 even over the 100 but that was with a little " different " system " and with a so old brief listening my memory could be wrong. Well, Dean_man likes over the 881S and this is a very good praise for the MF200.
A 200 and 300 tests are in order.
Man, we have a lot of " land " to travel over this big big country named: MM/MI alternative, sometimes seems to me and endless joy of experiences!
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Hello Raul i knew what i was looking for when contacting bliz bros. Cant say if thats the pic on the web when i bought i do know i asked the sales person and he knew what i wanted and came up with it. I was glad my only purchase from bbs. Remember im only here with mms maybe 5 months. Ive leared alot but have a long way to go.
I will repeat best move ive made in audio going back to vintage cartridges and preamp/amps.
Speaking of acutex listeng to the moody blues threshold of a dream now dear diary is tough to track without breakup. Short noised 320 cruises through the grooves as good as ive heard the song. Along with a wonderful wide imaged spread of the band a fantastic production indeed. Rock and Roll Mike |
Hello Raul, I didn't mean to suggest that I liked the MF-200 "over" the 881S. Instead I was trying to express my refound enthusiasm for the Astatic! However I do join you in feeling that sometimes these vintage cartridges seem like an endless joy!
Best,
Jim |
Hello Raul i knew what i was looking for when contacting bliz bros. Cant say if thats the pic on the web when i bought i do know i asked the sales person and he knew what i wanted and came up with it. I was glad my only purchase from bbs. Remember im only here with mms maybe 5 months. Ive leared alot but have a long way to go.
I will repeat best move ive made in audio going back to vintage cartridges and preamp/amps.
Speaking of acutex listeng to the moody blues threshold of a dream now dear diary is tough to track without breakup. Short noised 320 cruises through the grooves as good as ive heard the song. Along with a wonderful wide imaged spread of the band a fantastic production indeed. Rock and Roll Mike |
Dont know how i double posted sorry. Mike |
Oh my,oh my : 'My kingdom for a horse' should be substituted with 'My kingdom for the (right) stylus'. |
Hello Raul, I have owned the Astatic MF 200 for a while but it did not like the Project 9 arm. Almost sold it several times. It really sounds good with the new arm and am very glad I kept it.
Picked up the MF 300 and was surprised it was as good. The MF 200 is a little smooth in the highs, sometimes to smooth. Great change of pace without having to change the motor. The 300 is a lot more "live" sounding to me.
What do you remember about the MF100? I've been looking for that stylus, and if it's not better than the MF 200 I will not look any longer. I think the difference is in the cartridge.
On another note, do you know if the Sonus Blue Golds suspension can be rebuilt? I bought a NOS cart a while back that quickly failed. Sounded good for about 20 min. though. |
Dear Acman3: I have no time at this moment to explain in deep but IMHO you don't need to follow looking for the 100 stylus replacement. The MF 200 is a keeper!!
About the Sonus I think that SS, Axel, VdH or Dominic can do it.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
I think we have broached this topic in the past, but can we talk about headshells? I am looking for some relatively light weight ones, so I can permanently mount some of my favorite high compliance cartridges. On eBay it's easy to find expensive and well built high mass headshells, but it's not so easy to determine the quality of the light weight ones, which are often flimsy looking. Take-offs from AT, Pioneer, Sony, and Technics tonearms are abundant and cheap on eBay, but are they any good? For less than $150, what light weight headshells are especially good. And "how light" does the headshell have to be to work well with these cartridges, notwithstanding the inherent mass of the rest of the tonearm? And stuff like that. |
Dear Lew, Before my Triplanar and the Reed I used Orsonic(s) with my FR 64s and even bought the best Clearaudio's version of the Orsonic:the Titanium kind. This one I still own. I am sure that Dertonarm and Syntax also used the Orsonic for their FR-64/66 arms. However Raul was not much impressed if I remember well. You can get one of those Orsonics for $ 100 on 'our market'. You should however check if those are made in Japan. But if you will consider this kind you can also ask your son for help of course.
Regards, |
Hello Raul and Acman3,
RE: The aptly named Astatic MF 200. I bought this last week on the bay and strangely enough I was the only bidder. The first 3 to 4 sides I played sounded very ordinary, then it began to open up and OMG! Passed the 'Highway 61' test with flying colors; the harmonica is sharp, shrill and detailed but just below the threshold of pain (at 95db), perfect! It's definitely a keeper, in fact I'd call it a real MF.
John |
Dear Nandric, the Orsonic 101 weighs 18 gm. I own one, but I deem it to be too heavy for use with high compliance cartridges. There is another version, called "11B", now on eBay and said to weigh only 12 gm, which IMO is the upper limit for high compliance cartridges (taken together with the other factors and depending upon what tonearm, that is). |
I do. I mean I have not much of a bankroll...therefore a good MM is the way to go for me personally. Still...I've heard some pretty good MCs and feel that the Clearaudio Concept MM I just purchased recently for under $200 is every bit the equal and more to my favorite classic MC...the Dynavector Ruby.
The Concept MM is way far more detailed and cleanere than anything else I've experienced in this wonderful hobby for forty-four years now. Give it a listen...I think you'll be shocked at its performance level. I just wrote a review on it here. |
hello nandric using your triplaner with with high compliance cartridge is working for you in your system i take it. do you find that triplaner delivers the music as well as going with a high compliance arm for these high compliance cartridges we have.
lewm good call on getting some input with headshells. ive been looking but havent pulled the trigger on any not sure what to buy. mike |
Lew, the AV-1 is the lightweight I think at 10g. Raul and Halcro have ditched them in the headshell 101 thread, do a search. I use the AV-1 with my Virtuoso with no regret. Other lightweights (below 10 grams) are the ADC magnesium headshells and AT MG magnesium heashells. |
dear Lewm:
I like my audio technica headshells (ls 12, mg 10, and some other 9 gram one I don't know the model for). They all seem to work just fine with my MM carts. I take the finger lifts off. Be careful with picking these as some have azimuth and overhang adjustment and some don't. The adjustment is useful but some, e.g. Henry, believe it is a compromise in rigidity.
There's a ms9 (9.5g) on ebay right now if you're interested (no affiliation). That seller seems to have a never ending supply of vintage headshells, although I've never seen a ms9 before. |
Dear Lew, I used the plural by the Orsonics. There are 3 versions to my knowledge. The AV-1 being the lightest.Not however sure about those on the Gon market ($100). BTW your specimen is the best of them ,with azymuth adjustment and highest rigidity. Or so I thought because of the weight.
Regards, |
Lewm, lightweight headshell suggestion - buy a few Sumiko headshells ( they have azimuth adjustment ) 14g and drill holes in them to reduce weight. I have the low weight Orsonic - it's useless - not particularly rigid on the dynavector arm. It's very hard to find decent headshells with azimuth adj. Jelco do a version of the Sumiko as well which are cheaper. |
I have a magnesium adc headshell (6 grams w/o leads) and an orsonic av-11* (8.5g w/o leads). They are collecting dust as I dislike both, especially the orsonic.
*I suspect I may have a fake orsonic since it's non rigid in every conceivable way. |
Dear Stiltrains, I hope not to get in trouble with this statement but I regard the Triplanar as an 'universal tonearm'. I have 4 different counterweights for this one. Only my Sumiko 800 has more weights (5x) and this one I also consider to be universal. There are specific weights for carts from 6 g. till 15 g. I am very fond of my Triplanar and actually don't care if there are better kinds.
Regards, |
The light weight Orsonic for sale on eBay does look a bit flimsy, like it would not be too rigid. It appears that in order to reduce mass they shaved a bit of metal off the important structural areas. Thanks for that feedback and for the other feedback. I know that Raul likes those AT magnesium headshells; are those the ones where the model name begins "MG"? I think so, or "Duh!", as my son would say. Nandric, I have a Triplanar. As you know, it is "medium" mass, at about 11 gm total. Probably it would not be too bad with high compliance cartridges, as you have apparently discovered. Will give it a try. Thanks for all the other suggestions, but keep them coming. It would be fun to discuss relative sonic merits. Headshells and platter mats have a huge effect on sound quality and are often disregarded as factors. (I just replaced the SAEC SS300 metal mat on my SP10 Mk3 with a Boston Audio Mat2. The sound is very different, smoother is one way to describe the difference. But I am not sure I prefer the BA mat2 on all counts vs the SS300. Maybe.) |
Hello Nandric yes i have spoken to Tri about this and his response was anything from 4g to 24g no problem so yes Triplaner is a universal arm. And he mentioned thats what hes learned from numerous users of this fine arm plus his own trial and error. I have the latest with the fine tuning weight so i have 4 different weights for mine also. Do you find its best to keep the weight as close to the pivot as possible or use the lighter weights even though there far out from the pivot with your lighter cartridges. I havent tried removing the heavy frist weight and using the lighter ones sticking to the tp instructions. If you would like to keep this off the thread email me.
I go with the its how the music sounds not how the math works out and its been working for me.
I would like to know how a technics epa 100 another universal arm but from the vintage days handles high to low compliance cartridges.
Thanks for the reply get in touch mike |
Hello Raul if you or anyone else could help me with this it would be much appreciated. I received my p100le today and it did not have the instruction manual included with the sale. The adjustments for vta are the alan/hex screws on the cartridge i am sure could you give me the adjustment procedure if you can. Would like to mount it but want to be sure all is right with how vta is set on it now.
I would sure like to have a pdf/copy of the p100le manual if anyone has one and can help i would be willing to pay barter or work for it anything in fact but sharing my wife you have to draw a line somewhere it this hobby right. peace love rock and roll mike |
Dear Stltrains, Herbert Papier designed the Triplanar and David Fletcher the Sumiko 800. Fletcher btw had a master machinist Demian (?) Davidson as help, who made all the parts. My Sumiko is at the moment by Vidmantas the owner of the Reed company. Vidmantas is very impressed with the 'works' and the quality of this arm.BTW he only borrowed my Sumiko. Now both designers assumed that the best position for the counter weight is as near as possible to the pivot. This also explains the number of counterweights. I am aware that there are other opinions about this issue but I use my Triplanar as intended by the designer. I am sorry but I forget the name of this Vietnamese 'succesoor' of Papier. Is his name really Tri? If so then this looks to me very appropriate.
Regards, |
Hello nandric yes tri mi was herbs apprentice and who he turned his company over to. And if you call he will answer the phone first time live. I got ya with staying with herbs recommendations with the 1st weight. I do like what my tp brings very hard to beat. Thank you Mike |
Here is a list I put together for myself of headshells - quite a few of them I own and the data is my measurements, others are measurements posted online that I have recorded for reference:
Brand Model Weight Technics 5.7 Garrard Ugly Silver 5.7 Black Plastic 5.8 ADC LMG-1 6.0 Garrard Ugly Silver 6.1 Audio Technica AT-MG6 6.3 AKG 6.6 Rek-O-Kut LowMass sme 6.7 Ortofon Evolution 6.8 LoD Silver plastic 6.9 Technics (unlabelled) 6.9 Technics (unlabelled) 6.9 ADC thin w round lift 7.0 Silver noname (VF on inside) 7.1 Aurex 7.1 Toshiba 7.1 Pioneer PP304 7.2 Sony Black Plastic 7.2 "Universal Headshell" 7.3 "Universal Headshell" 7.3 Turntablebasics Alum black/silver 7.3 Technics SL1210mk2 7.3 Sony black pressed metal 7.5 Black noname noarm (paint scratched on inside - most scratched) 7.6 Black noname noarm (paint scratched on inside) 7.7 ADC (straight arm) LMG-1 7.7 Toshiba style Unbranded 7.7 Black noname noarm (paint scratched on inside - shinier one) 7.8 Black thick plastic - wiring diagram on inside 7.8 Technics (unlabelled, nolift, black plastic) 8.1 Yamamoto HS3 8.2 Ortofon LH8000 8.5 Rek-O-Kut AdjustWeight 8.5 Technics-Style noname 8.5 Sansui Silver/Black Metal 8.5 Nagaoka HS-180 8.6 Pioneer ?? Plain alum silver rectangular 8.7 KQM Technics style silver 8.9 Denon Universal 8.9 Stanton Technics Style 8.9 Gemini HD01 9.0 Denon PCL-4 9.2 Pioneer HS103 9.2 Black Plastic> (VA on Inside) VA 9.3 Shelter 1011L 9.3 Stanton H4S 9.3 Ortofon SH4 9.4 Tonar 9.4
The Garrard "ugly silver" headshells are truly ugly, but also very light and very rigid. There are a number of ADC headshells that are very good.
I am particularly impressed by the LoD silver plastic headshell - It doesn't feel like cheap thermoplastic, more like delrin, nicely damping very rigid!
Quite a few of the original Technics ones I have are very low mass (6.9g)
A few of the ones on the list are the pressed aluminium with the swiss cheese drilled look - those I don't like and try to avoid - they are light, but they are also "ringy". They have often sounded good, but I just don't trust something that resonates like that.
In terms of high quality with good looks and good sound the Audio Technia AT-MG6 (6.3g) is probably the top ranker... but like many AT's you have only 3 screw holes in the underside and need just the right size screws for it, and the holes need to be in the right places for the alignment...
If purchasing new, I would consider the original Technics SL1200mkII headshells, but might also give the Ortofon Evolution a try - 6.8g solidly built (designed for DJ's) - quite a "funky" look - I have yet to see one in the flesh.
hope that helps
bye for now
David |
Hello David what a very impressive list thanks for your thoughts as well. You most certainly have had your share of trial and error rolling that many HSs. Mike |
Hello jbethree, Yes , that was a good price too. I have a good stable of MF200 and 300 so I reluctantly sat that one out. Did you notice it was under MFF200 so the casual search did not see it.
The sound can get a little strident if the arm is not up to the energy generated. You can get MF 300 styli from the same vendor which I also like.
Good find! |
Petsound, I have not had the privilege of hearing that Clearaudio cartridge. Raul is really impressed with the Virtuoso which I also have not heard. I shall be on the look for it and will read your review . Thanks for the insight. It's hard to hear all the cartridges, so thanks.
Danny |
Dear David, Thank you for that list. More of your opinions of relative attributes would also be appreciated. Part of your text answers one of my questions; with those AT MG series headshells, as you note, there seems to be no capacity for fine adjustment of overhang, because one is forced to use one of several discrete pairs of threaded inserts to mount the cartridge. I had been wondering whether they compensated for this obvious (and for me, deal-killer) shortcomings by allowing for some fore and aft movement at the rear of the headshell, where it grips the cylindrical mount for the tonearm. Apparently not. What were they thinking? Otherwise, those are reasonably priced and beautifully made headshells. Raul put me on to the Belldream (magnesium) headshell available on eBay. I've got one and will probably try it with either the Grace Ruby or the AKG P8ES Super Nova II.
I was present at Herb's house (aka the Triplanar factory) on one of the days that Tri was visiting to learn from Herb how to make the tonearm. I think Tri spent a week or two by Herb's side. At that point in time, Herb's health was failing rapidly, but his incredibly strong personality was still in play. Herb made most of the individual parts of the tonearm on his workbench, originally, but by this time he was "farming out" some of the difficult parts, or maybe just the arm tubes, to other machine shops. Tri is a very nice guy and worthy of bearing the Triplanar mantle. (Besides, given his name, who else could be more qualified?) I do not think that Tri's surname is "Planar", however. Pity. |
with those AT MG series headshells, as you note, there seems to be no capacity for fine adjustment of overhang, because one is forced to use one of several discrete pairs of threaded inserts to mount the cartridge. I had been wondering whether they compensated for this obvious (and for me, deal-killer) shortcomings by allowing for some fore and aft movement at the rear of the headshell, where it grips the cylindrical mount for the tonearm. Apparently not. What were they thinking? That's when a tonearm pod comes in handy. :) As I mentioned, there are AT headshells (aluminum block, I believe, with damping rubber (?) integrated into the top of the shell) that allow for the kind of adjustment you describe. The ls12 is one such kind, as is the ms9 I referenced above. They are equally, if not more, beautiful. |
Dear Lewm: I mounted dozen of cartridges in the MG10 headshells and till today I never had a single problem because overhang mistmatch through its discrete mounting holes. Now, from AT only the MG10s has no azymuth or overhang movement all the other AT magnesium/aluminum ones comes with both adjustements, in the AT line you can find from the MS6 ( 6grs. ) to 12 grs. The Grace magnesium is very good headshell and Sumiko too.
I own almost 100 headshells on every kind of shape, weight and build material. Which ones are the best: no clear answer about but: the best is the one that performs beter with the cartridge and as you suppose you will know it when you mount and test the cartridge with different headshells. IMHO there are no rules here other than stay away from those colored and heavy distorted Orsonics, of course that as Halcro I know that there are persons that loves does distortions: me no, I love music and nothing but music.
I'm with Mike: forgeret about maths and go for what your ears perceive. All those stuff that high compliance cartridges goes only with low mass tonearms is true in theory but this theory can't predict the level of quality performance following those maths and when in playback that theory falls faster that I can write this.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Stlitrains: I own that P100LE but for the moment I'm really busy because I'm starting with a new family business. As soon I can I will send you a copy, please email me your address and in the mean time don't touch that VTA cartridge mechanism. You can test the cartridge using the tonearm normal VTA/SRA adjustement.
You need to make cartridge tests looking more to know its quality level performance for its tracking habilities because here exist the posibility as with other AKGs that its suspension could be a little out of specs.
I own two samples of this AKG and both came with suspension problems that VdH fixed. I sold one of my samples and I keep one. I sold the one I used for the Agon review.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear Jbthree: and friends: For the moment I only can say to all of you: if you see any MF200 just buy it with out no questions!!!
As soon I can I will report on it, yes better than the AKG P8E, so Nandric don't worry about your AKG experiences the MF200 is the one to go.
Regrads and enjoy the music, R. |
Hello Raul,
The MF 200 sounds better with every side I play, probably only 8 hours on it so it should continue to improve. It looks a little strange when playing, as the body and the stylus guard ride much closer to the record surface than any other cartridge I have ever owned. But it certainly makes beautiful music! I am using slightly positive VTA as I do with most vintage cartridges.
Thanks,
John
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Spent the better part of this evening mounting the Grace Ruby in the Belldream headshell (probably a bit too heavy for optimal) and then aligning it using the complex UNIprotractor. Finally at about midnight I ended up with some tunes, listening to June Christy on Capitol, an album that I had just been listening to on my Reed/Ortofon MC7500, but hardly an audiophile dream LP in terms of sonics. At 12:30 AM, my wife informed me that she found it impossible to sleep with me playing records, loud, on a level just below our bedroom. Sheesh! I had to stop in order to demonstrate what a loving husband I am. With 100K load, no added C, in Dynavector DV505 on lowly Lenco, I was quite impressed. (I think someone remarked that the Grace cartridges need some added C.) This cartridge is delicious. That's the word that popped into my head. Just lovely from midbass to low treble. And no lack of highs. It's much too short an audition to draw any conclusions, but I had the feeling I could listen to it for hours on end.
So, Raul, why do you think you never had a problem setting overhang despite the limitations of the MG series of headshells? It would seem to me that just by chance some cartridges would not align properly. Anyway, I have an MG10 and will try that too, to see if I am as fortunate as you. |
A strange association. An English teacher complains to his wife: 'My dear imagine this. I asked one of my students who wrote Romeo and Julia and the scum answered: Í am innocent.' The wife: 'Dear John are you not too severe? The poor kid may be indeed innocent.'
When Lew mentioned the 'new kind' of platter mat I got this association. It seems to me that those mat-producers have as much knowledge involved by mats as the lady in casu about the literature.
Regards, |
Hello Raul and thank you for getting with me. Sent my mailing info. Will not mess with the adjustments and leave as is. Going to mount her later today up in the middle of the night now with this infernal gurd.
Alex assured me that the cartridge was just sent to VDH for a new stylus and checkup very recently. By looking with my 7x mag it does look new. thanks again mike |
Hello Acman3,
The MfF listing was no doubt a help in limiting bidders; I thought it would sell closer to $300. Are the 200/300 styli interchangeable? The 300 is an elliptical isn't it?
Not even a hint of stridency and 'Highway 61' is my usual litmus test. I've pulled out a few albums that exhibit a fairly harsh treble at high volume levels and the MF 200 handled them all.
It was a good week on eBay.
John |
Dear Lewm: ++++ " why do you think you never had a problem setting overhang despite the limitations of the MG series of headshells? " +++++
well I don't think that " no problems " is a fact because all the cartridges that were mounted in the MG10 ( it has 4-5 discrete different distance mount holes. ) were spot on with overhang, sometimes a little at rearward some times at front side all depend on the cartridge.
I still own the Grace Ruby that IMHO is the best Grace I ever heard ( in original shape, with out any refresh. ), very nice cartridge.
Regards and enjoy the music, R. |