what speaker new or used for 5k?

Soix hit the nail on the head, I'm looking for improvements in resolution, image and soundstage. something that's not too bright or laid back. its like the speakers I have are missing something not sure if its in the components or cabling?

Vandesteen Model 2 or 3. They'll work great with what you have now, and will sound amazing as you upgrade your components to one's that will really bring out what the speaker are capable of.

Hey Roxy54 what do the summits sound like compared to their bigger brothers?

Jughead,
You may already know, but there has been a pair of those Intuitive Design speakers for a long time on Audio Asylum, and I almost bought them last year before I went SET. I know that the dealer is motivated and will lower the price. They are really excellent speakers.

The VA's are just a little too laid back and congested, I have added the Mosaic speaker cable and interconnects which made a big difference with the sound. The WT is a great sounding speaker but just a bit bright and a little thin for my taste, but I think I'll use those for a different setup. I have been really looking into Intuitive Design gamma summits, I have heard the bigger brothers to the summits and the sound is breathtaking!

Without knowing what specifically you're looking to improve upon it's not possible to make a good recommendation IMO. I will say in that price range I'd look at Joseph Audio Pulsar, Vandersteen Treo/Quatro, and Reference 3a Grand Veena. I'd guess any of those could yield improvements in overall resolution, imaging, and soundstaging if any of those areas are of importance to you. Best of luck.

Jug,

last I heard you added the subs and did room treatments and had teh original Vienna's and the newer Wavetouch.

What aspects of teh sound are still lacking? MAybe its not the room or speakers at this point? Just wondering. There is more to getting teh right sound than speakers and room, though getting those under control at least is a needed first step before further tweaking.

That's a tough one -there are so many good speakers in this range.
-Revel F208
-Bryston middle T
-Golden Ear Triton 1
-Thiel TT 1

I found the Thiel 2.4 SE at a great price (new) and find these amazing. They throw the biggest sound stage I've ever heard (assuming it's on the recording) and are very coherent.

The Thiel 2.7 looks interesting as well.

There are literally so many variables to speaker choice, that it would perhaps be wise to list some of the elements in a speaker that are important to you.

What do you want from a new(er) speaker that your current ones aren't giving you?

Recently there were 2 pair of speakers I always wanted listed on AudiogoN for under $4k:

Revel Studio's

Unity Audio PARM's

Both listed for $15k or more new I believe ... NO idea how a systems like this would mesh with your current gear though but I do know you could sell the subs if you purchased either of these speakers