what speaker new or used for 5k?


Looking to upgrade my speakers right now I Have the Vienna Acoustics Mosart Grands. Equipment is the Parasound a21 amp p5 pre amp and Marantz sa8001 sacd and two REL t9 subs. Mosaic speaker cable and Interconnects, in a 16 x 20 room with 7ft drop ceilings.
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The VA's are just a little too laid back and congested, I have added the Mosaic speaker cable and interconnects which made a big difference with the sound. The WT is a great sounding speaker but just a bit bright and a little thin for my taste, but I think I'll use those for a different setup. I have been really looking into Intuitive Design gamma summits, I have heard the bigger brothers to the summits and the sound is breathtaking!
Soix hit the nail on the head, I'm looking for improvements in resolution, image and soundstage. something that's not too bright or laid back. its like the speakers I have are missing something not sure if its in the components or cabling?
Soix, The a21 has more than enough power and them some, I don't think the VA's which to me are a warmer sounding speaker is a good match with the PARASOUND gear. The a21 is a warmer sounding amp to me and I'm not sure I want to let the PARASOUND equipment go. I just need to find a speaker that will match up with it. I'm going to see if my local dealer has some of the new Paradigm's prestige line floorstanders I can borrow threw the weekend.
I'm not sure if it would be wiser to replace my amp and pre to match the Mozarts? or replace the Mozarts to a speaker that matches my amp and pre amp better? I don't think id have any problem selling any of the equipment. I do think the a21 is a warmer sounding amp and that may be the reason the Mozarts don't sound right. not sure if id go with a class d amp, I do have a friend who has a pure class a amp I could borrow and see what that does for the Mozarts.
What companies do in home trial for class d amps? I'm fine with trying it as long as I can return it if it doesn't meet my standards.
Mapman, I'm in a finished basement concrete floors with carpet. star sound audio points for spikes.
speakers are setup 4ft from front wall and 50 1/2 inches from side wall, this is the correct setup for the room dimensions except from the front wall, but I cannot have them any farther out in the room because this serves as a family room as well. HT, gaming. the Mosaic cables are very neutral sounding and expensive, this is not where the problem is. the cables improved the sound tremendously, but the VA's still sound congested. I have also tried ZENTARA reference cables and power cords with the same effect.
Stereo equipment is wired to its own circuit and I have a monster power surge and line enhancer, not sure what model off hand but it ran about 500 bucks.
My local stereo store recommends that I try Musical Design amp and pre which I can take home and try.
Mapman, I can try different amp and pre amps from local stereo store for free. The dealer is trying to figure out a way(s) to work around the a21 with a better speaker match or change out the a21 and p5 to match the VA's. I'm thinking a floor model amp and pre might be cheaper then speakers because of the resale value of the PARASOUND gear.
like I said congested sounding almost like when your nose is plugged. I don't know if I switched to the grand Beethoven's if it would be the same or better? because the PARASOUND gear might not be a good match for the VA's in general. I hate the thought of getting rid of the PARASOUND gear but it does go for a good resale value and the Mozarts not so much. luckily I do have a high end stereo store 30 miles away who will sell and trade equipment and will let me try out various things for free and make suggestions. Vandersteen, aerial and Paradigms new prestige line has been mentioned by local dealer.
Local dealer does not carry Vandersteen's, but is expecting to get a pair on trade not sure what model but I'll ask.
Mapman, yes you can decipher vocals they are not clear as bell and the rest of the music just sounds muddy. bloated bass and not great separation of instruments.
I have heard the Intuitive Design Mosaic and its bigger brother don't remember the name of the speaker? but its a 95k speaker and the Mosaic is 14k, at the local stereo store. and the same company makes the gamma summits for 11k and I can pick up the summits for 5 to 6k used. all I can say is from what I heard from Intuitive Design speakers was BREATHTAKING! and I would think the summits would be the same. these speakers were ran with mono block tube amps not sure what brand? but this might be a great match for my Parasound gear
Essrand, So you know what I'm talking about when I say the Mozart's sound congested with bloated bass?
Instead of buying new speakers I have decided to experiment with a few things first, power cords and line conditioner.
So I finally bought some speakers that match my system perfectly and I couldn't be happier with them, Intuitive Design Gamma Summits.
Thanks Reynolds853. so I changed everything in my system except for the cdp, I sold my Parasound a21 and p5 and bought a Musical Design t100 amp and the sp1 pre amp Mosaic cables and a Shunyata ps8 and Shunyata power cords, and the Gamma Summits. these speakers are unreal with their seamless sound, you cannot hear individual drivers the sound seems to float and sounds live and alive. three dimensional I guess? I was told with the carbon fiber nano tube arrays which are almost super conductive at room temp and no phase shift is the reason for the breathtaking sound. I've been on the audio treadmill for a long time now and I have finally found my sonic nirvana. in other words I have found my end of the game system.
Hey John, yes all of my equipment is from Automated Lifestyles. I've known Duane for at least 20+years. are you from the Quad City area?
Thanks Bob, I notice the same thing with the Gammas any little change yields different sound. the Gammas are a part of my system I will never part with, and mated with the Musical Design amp and pre its sonic nirvana for me.
Intuitive Designs Mosaics and Denali, the bigger brothers of the Gammas are awesome speakers as well. I heard these speakers mated with Eccence jasper amps and the sound is jaw dropping. but way out of my price range.