WA-Quantum GmbH's Quantum Chips

Well this weekend I may try removing them from my Analog equipment to see what changes.
It's odd though, initially they sounded great everywhere they were placed, but now that I have removed some the sound sounds better without them.

Ozzy, I'm glad you are finding them to be of use.

Flashunlock, I've spent way more $$$ than you. At this point, I have removed all of the cable chips from my system. I think they are just too overwelming on my cables. But, I do think a cable chip on the main breaker is a plus along with fuse chips on the individual breakers that go to my dedicated outlets.

At this point, I still have the Transformer and Cap(large, small)chips on my analog equipment. And of course the fuse chips on fuses.

Flashunlock, you might want to pick up a pack of removeable Glue Dots at Office Depot or CVS. They're what the big boys use.

My conclusion after spending over $250 on the chips is to NOT buy them totally waste of time, effort and money. Use the money to buy more/ better fuses instead.
I have a collection of them that doesn't stick anymore due to the useless glue that they use.

I'm sure Geoff is laughing all the way to the bank!

Ha ha!

Good for him!

Lacee, yes the fuse chips are the real thing and would probably improve upon any fuse type.

As I have posted earlier, I have a full complement of the different types of chips. I am now in the process of removing all of the cable chips from my HIDiamond cables. The chips seem to suck the life out of the music with these cables. I’m thinking that this is probably do to the fact that the HIDiamond cables use carbon in the mixture with the copper.

I was living on the edge for years,using DIY fuse replacements.
When the Iso Cleans came out I tried them and they were better than stock and much safer than DIY chunks of wire.

Then when the HiFi supremes came out I didn't hesitate to try them in my old Acoustat servo charge tube amps.

Very nice improvemnt over the stock fuses, which may have been original.

Only when I applied the WA chips did fuse directionality become audible.

What else became more audible was the improved weight to the music when the fuses with the chips were in the right direction.

In the opposite direction the sound was more lightweight and tipped up towrds the upper frequencies.

Anyone tried the chips on stock fuses?

So far I don't seem to have seen any posts.

The cost for the fuse chips is dirt cheap, so I can't understand why those who feel the designer fuses are too costly, would not try the WA chips on their own stock fuses?

Mapman wrote,

"It usually never hurts to have a sense of humor, but there are some things that are almost impossible or perhaps even ill advised to just laugh at."

Ooooooo....OK, no laughing from now on. Mapman is getting in one of his pensive moods.

-;(

Mapman, I take it you must have slept through the whole Intelligent Chip thing, eh? The Orange, Red and Blue Intelligent Chips all contained quantum dots. This is very hush, hush, so please keep it under your hat.

:-)

GK
Machina Dynamica
We Do Artificial Atoms Right

Geoff does say it helps to have a sense of humor regarding quantum audio products. I'm sure it helps him!

It usually never hurts to have a sense of humor, but there are some things that are almost impossible or perhaps even ill advised to just laugh at.

Mapman,I did enjoy the above reference!That was a good one!
Have to laugh at some of this stuff!

YEs, I follow what you said about artificial atoms. Sounds like nonsense to me.

I've read about quantum dot applications before. Definitely a useful light/optics related technology but how is it relevant to this discussion. Is that what you or perhaps others mean when they say some material they use is programmed? If so, I might buy that but a program is just a for of technology. It may be good, bad or useless. WHat matters is the application.

...except both are advertised to be programmed somehow, I believe....

Ozzy, me to for referencing it as well. IT has nothing to do with the WA Quantum chips.

Ozzy,I apologize for responding to Geoffs new product in your thread.

How do you program a crystal?

Mapman,

Wikipedia to the rescue.

Quantum dot
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Different sized quantum dots emit different color light due to quantum confinement. A quantum dot is a portion of matter (e.g., semiconductor) whose excitons are confined in all three spatial dimensions. Consequently, such materials have electronic properties intermediate between those of bulk semiconductors and those of discrete molecules.[1][2][3] They were discovered at the beginning of the 1980s by Alexei Ekimov[4] in a glass matrix and by Louis E. Brus in colloidal solutions. The term "quantum dot" was coined by Mark Reed.[5]

Researchers have studied quantum dots in transistors, solar cells, LEDs, and diode lasers. They have also investigated quantum dots as agents for medical imaging and hope to use them as qubits in quantum computing.
Stated simply, quantum dots are semiconductors whose electronic characteristics are closely related to the size and shape of the individual crystal. Generally, the smaller the size of the crystal, the larger the band gap, the greater the difference in energy between the highest valence band and the lowest conduction band becomes, therefore more energy is needed to excite the dot, and concurrently, more energy is released when the crystal returns to its resting state. For example, in fluorescent dye applications, this equates to higher frequencies of light emitted after excitation of the dot as the crystal size grows smaller, resulting in a color shift from red to blue in the light emitted. In addition to such tuning, a main advantage with quantum dots is that, because of the high level of control possible over the size of the crystals produced, it is possible to have very precise control over the conductive properties of the material.[6] Quantum dots of different sizes can be assembled into a gradient multi-layer nanofilm.

Mapman, the difference between a real atom and an artificial one, one grown in the lab, is that the real atom has a real nucleus in the center with real electrons around it, whereas an artificial atom has an empty hole in the center with real electrons around it. The hole has a positive charge. Follow? I work with one of the world's largest nanotechnology companies to obtain the unobtanium.

" These "artificial atoms" can be designed to exhibit specific characteristics, such as wavelength of emitted photons and bandwidth of absorbed energy. "

Geoff, hate to break the news, but pretty much everything in the universe is designed that way already.

THe science of Remote Sensing is based on it.

Artificial atoms! Nice marketing term! Very impressive!

GEoff has a purty programmed Diamond Light Crystal High Frequency Clarifier for sale here I see:

MDCrystal

Despite being announced as unannounced, one can clearly read about it and buy it and try it. That's a nice trick in itself! :^)

And all of this science fiction technology sells for a few bucks? Well, I guess you have to make a living.

Mapman wrote,

"The vendors clearly use the term "quantum" in their marketing literature yet provide little or no information beyond that. Those are the only "facts" provided. So make of it what you will."

You overlooked one key bit of data provided on the manufacturer's site.

"Eight specifically programmed types available."

Make of it what you will. Heh

Let's see, what else could the WA Quantum Chip possibly be if it doesn't contain quantum material? Something that can be "programmed" for each application, something that cannot be seen (maybe it's in the ink used to make the W and A on the stickers....hmmmmm), something that apparently can improve the sound, do nothing, or hurt the sound. Can we rule out PWB Morphic Message Foils, Cream Electret and Leaf Green Cream, constrained layer damping and EMI/RFI absorbing ink/paint?

The vendors clearly use the term "quantum" in their marketing literature yet provide little or no information beyond that. Those are the only "facts" provided. So make of it what you will.

yeah, the weord quantum gets thrown about in this hobby quite often. Still, there is something going on with these stickers. I have placed one of the Cable chips with Blu Tack on my main house circuit breaker. Not sure how to tell if it is doing anything however. Perhaps my electric bill will go down?

I should clarify, I'm not saying that it won't change the sound as I have not tried one and therefore have no opinion that's worth anything on the sound subject. I do think that calling it "Quantum Material" is just some marketing BS though.

Koestner wrote,

"Isn't everything in the universe made of quantum material? What is "Quantum Material"? Quantum Theory is a statistical endeavor to understand matter/energy on a small scale. To me, quantum material is just a bunch of BS."

Obviously everything in the universe is made of atoms, but that is not what I'm referring to by, "quantum material." "Quantum material" in the context of the Intelligent Chip - and perhaps the WA Q Chips - is "artificial atoms," laboratory-grown nanoscale semiconductors that behave much differently than ordinary atoms. These "artificial atoms" can be designed to exhibit specific characteristics, such as wavelength of emitted photons and bandwidth of absorbed energy.

Furthermore, quantum mechanics is not entirely the theory of energy and matter on a small scale, as you stated; quantum mechanics has evolved to the application stage, where quantum mechanical effects are observed on a macro scale and where quantum mechanical principles can be applied to real world problems and applications. For example, the laser in an ordinary CD player is actually a "quantum well" and behaves quantum mechanically, the fluorescing laser photons' color/wavelength being a function of the characteristics of the "quantum material" inside the laser assembly. The "quantum material" inside the Intelligent Chip is referred to as "quantum dots," in which the electrons are confined in all three dimensions.

Mapman... I'd cut it open to check if one of the wires got disconnected.

Isn't everything in the universe made of quantum material? What is "Quantum Material"? Quantum Theory is a statistical endeavor to understand matter/energy on a small scale. To me, quantum material is just a bunch of BS.

Ozzy, it will likely be a while before I get a chance to play around with the WA Q Chips, unfortunately. I'm on a list. Ha ha. One can't help wondering, you know, with the reports of the sound changing over time, getting worse, after the WA chips are installed, if maybe the chips are morphing, changing their original formulation from something positive to something onerous. I'm still collating but what could make them morph, I mean, besides the black liquid from Prometheus? Ha ha. Could there be a connection to the Intelligent Chip, and why the Intelligent Chip runs out of steam? Hmmmmm, puzzling.

Cheers, Geoff

Flashunlock, Still experimenting with placement of these little buggers. Funny how one type of chip acts differently than another.
Geoffkait, I have owned many of your products in the past,and I look forward for your opinion once you have tried the chips.

Ozzy, Glad you too found the transformer chip don't work for the Galieo plug... I have a cable chip which I will try instead and get back to you.

Thanks

Ozzy, I have found when it comes to quantum mechanics you need to develop a sensa humor. I have, or have had, the Magic Ring, Ultra Tweeters (including the Delux version), the Soundstage Enhancer, the original Intelligent Chip, the Red and Blue Intelligent Chips, Quantum Electaclear, Quantum Symphony and Quantum Clip, among many other quantum mechanical devices. Not to mention my own quantum mechanical products - there are now four. Blush. I wrote the definitive explanation for the Intelligent Chip 7 years ago. I designed the next generation Intelligent Chip and the Super Intelligent Chip. I have some of the WA Q Chips sitting here waiting for my new Blu Ray player to get modded, so I can't comment yet on their sonic attributes.

I have also found that on wall warts such as the Synergistic Galieo mini couplers the use of the Transformer chips is not a good thing. The Cables chips work much better on these devices. I am also trying a cable chip on my main breaker in my Circuit Breaker box.

Geoffkait, If you have tried the products please provide your actual experience. But, can you hold back all the smart a.. comments ? Thanks.

That's a hoot!

For Pete's sake, don't cut the chip! The secret of the chip came to me in a dream last night.

Under the 'W' is a micro-communication device. WA-Quantum has found a backdoor in and the chip is constantly calling and receiving this free of charge: http://machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm

Chuck

Oozy wrote,

"Well, I just removed the cable chips that I had on all of my XLR HiDiamond interconnects, and to my surprise the music became more fleshed out. This is very strange since originally I thought it was much better."

Uh, oh. Big trouble in little Quantumland.

:-)

Mapman, you must not have seen It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. The money was buried under the Big W. Are jokes verboten here?

With respect to all my questions, you're probably too young to remember the Socratic Method. :-)

Did you have a question? :-)

"That's an interesting question. What exactly would he be looking for and where would he look for it? Let's he's using a scanning electron microscope. First place to look: under the big W. :-)"

Geoff, as a supposed resident quantum audio expert, I keep hoping some day you'll answer some questions about this stuff beyond just asking more.

So what exactly would one find under the big W?

Raks wrote,

"Has anyone dissected one of the Chips and looked at it under a microscope?"

That's an interesting question. What exactly would he be looking for and where would he look for it? Let's he's using a scanning electron microscope. First place to look: under the big W. :-)

Ozzy... That is exactely what happened to me. I'm glad you have tried taking them off.
I've also tried the cable chip on the IEC of the power cords with the same result so off it came.

You must be craching your head just like me when my system sounded ill with the chips. :)

Well, I just removed the cable chips that I had on all of my XLR HiDiamond interconnects, and to my surprise the music became more fleshed out. This is very strange since originally I thought it was much better. The HiDiamond interconnects are made with carbon internally, not sure if that matters though.
I still have the cable chips on all of my HiDiamond Power cords but with those they are attached on the IEC ends.

Has anyone dissected one of the Chips and looked at it under a microscope?

You'd think a high tech quantum device would have a better designed attachment system. :)

Geoffkait , I would think the manufacturer wants to be able to resell them. But then, I still have no idea how it works.

It would be very clever if the quantum material was contained in the adhesive. Of course that might represent a problem if the chips are moved from one location to another.

The manufacturer recommends first trying the chips without removing the backing sheet in order to evaluate them.

"The WA-Quantum Chips come with a 14 day money back guarantee. A full refund will be granted only if the Chips are returned without any damage. In particular, the sheet at the back should be in place. The Chips can be given a first try by placing them on a component with the back sheet still in place."

GK

Thanks for the replies, at this point everything sounds wonderful, so I probably won't experiment with removing any more of them.
The adhesive is a problem though; once they have been applied for a period of time and then removed they don't seem to stick as well elsewhere. Perhaps applying some scotch tape over them will work.

I still very much believe they have improved my listening enjoyment, but it just seems that the digital unit did not approve

Ozzy,

The same thing happened when I used the transformer chips in my SACD player, pre and monos. Infact, even the fuse chips that were in my pre ( Krell Evo-2) seperate power supplies sounded dull and flat after a week or so.
You might want to try removing a fuse chip at a time from your system and listen again. I think you MIGHT find it sounding more alive. Just my cent.

Do you have to wait several hundred hours for these to properly break-in? I assume the adhesive has to settle in on the sub-atomic level. Those quarks are quirky.