Tubed Integrated/$1500/New or Used


My good friend is seriously in the market for a tubed integrated @ the $1500 price point, new or used.
He's leaning torward a modded Jolida which I know nothing about.
Midrange warmth and presence is important.
Your recommendations please.
Thanks!
greh
I agree with Chuck,try a c-j CAV-50! Used is around $1500.

Retube with Mullard El34 reissues, Sovtek 12AX7LPS or Tungsol 12AX7 reissues, NOS 6SN7 GE GTB or Sylvania GTB.

Good Luck!


If everyone has not heard those new high end Class A integrateds from Dussun / the V8 (250 per ch) and the V6 (150 per channel), you soon will!

Unbelievable sound, power , build quality and ridiculously low introductory prices- $1600 for the V8 and $1200 for the V6.

I had read about these amps from the CES show and I have talked to people in the industry who heard these puppies at the show and were absolutely blown away by the neutrality and power of these integrated amps. I got to audition one in LA and I concurred. I bought the V6 and am coupling it with my new Consonance 2.2 Linear CD Player and my Joseph Audio's RMS22I's...I will let you know how it all works...
I'll throw in my 2 cents for the PrimaLuna. I have the Prologue One and it's all that has been said above and written about it. This was my first step into tubes. It's a no brainer for anyone interested in tubes without the fuss.
Thanks Lousyreeds1 for addressing my question.Yeah i think i will investigate getting mine modded.Curious if you had the chance to hear the unmodded one which i am using?I think it sounds darn good but i bet a good mod will take it a step further down the blissfull road.
Jadis Orchestra Reference used - about $1500. Luscious sound, detailed, great soundstage. As long as you don't have to bias too often.
Indeed, I have heard a modified Jolida 707A. It was fantastic. The largest Jolida dealer in the country is near me, and the 707A was apparently created with much input from him. He has his own set of mods he does on it (not sure what) that bring it to another level entirely. I heard it driving small Maggies with no problem at all.

I'm refering to Dave Hare at Stereo Unlimited in Walnute Creek, CA if you're anywhere nearby. It's worth a listen, I think.
Was curious if alot of people that are recommending amps have actually heard some of the jolida modified amps in this price range or even unmodified for that matter?That information would be of great value to the poster and to me as well.I had a modified Jolida 202A from parts connection that i just parted with that i thought was an excellent start for me into the tube world.I have now acquired a Jolida 707A used .To my ears the 707A beats the 202A hands down even without the mods but their is something that the 202A had that makes me think about modding this one.I guess that is the blacker background and inner detail.While the 707 has the mid presence and plenty of punch i think it may be lacking some of the inner detail and black background that the 202A had.I think that maybe better capacitors and all the good things that come with a good mod may be the trick.I know you can get the fully modded Jolida 707A for the $1500 mentioned and was wondering if anyone has even heard this amp since they are recommending others?The 707A is said to "try" and replicate SET amps(which i haven't even heard yet).I am using a large horn speaker and 15" woofer that is rated at 101db sensitivity.sorry for the long wind.Just was wondering if there were people that had heard the jolida amps that are recommending these above or others to come?
Thanks and i think the original poster could benefit from this info as well : )
The old budget does not allow me to go crazy so i was led to the Jolida line.Just trying to get the most out of this tube endeavor(nirvana) as possible without going bankrupt in the process.I don't mind spending a few hundred more to take it to another level but thousands gets a bit prohibitive for me and i am sure several other GON'ers.
Enjoying the Ride !!
I would third the suggestion for the Primaluna Prologue Two. If you are moving from a mid-fi solid state amp, you will notice a huge improvement in midrange, warmth, dynamics, note decay/attack. Simply a fantastic amp.

It is also pretty much plug and play. It is a very easy amplifier to work with. Finally, it looks good and the build is top notch.

I usually don't appreciate the hype a lot of equipment gets but this one is for real.
I have an upgraded ASL AQ1003DT with better parts and it is fabulous. Easily bought used and modded with some of your $1500 left over!!
I can't believe that know one has recommended the Cayin Ta-30. I am listening to it as I write! Emotionally involving, human, sweet, and with low end that will knock your socks off for a 35 watt integrated tube amp! Oh, and midrange vocals that will change your mind about spending more than 800$ bucks! I forgot, it images like a champ!
Modified Jolida 102; el84 makes around 15 to 20 watts and sounds very good. Hard to beat for around 575 new.

The Audiomat Arpege/Prelude is a spectacular unit and in another class but over twice the money used. I've listened to these extensively in a reference system; it hung right in there with an original Kondo Ongaku fully updated with new capacitors and wiring.
Thanks to all for your feedback.
I'll let you know what he chooses and how it sounds.
It'll be interesting to compare the sonics of his integrated to my separates.
Thanks again!
Aronov LS960I is another choice, sounding "real" and musical at the same time, accompanied by marvelous bass detail, texture, and extension. No adjustments, or requirement for tweaking. But, any unit one purchases can benefit from proper choice of power cord, underlying support decision, and power directly from the wall.
Alternative tube choices ("tube rolling") can sometimes enhance tubeaholic listening pleasure, but which replacement tubes are the "best" for the unit your friend ends up choosing can be a separate subject for debate.
I'll third the PrimaLuna. My Prologue Two just arrived, and for the $ it is hard to beat. A great, simple integrated for the tube newbee, and right in his price range NEW! Incredible sound! You could even add a pair of tubes in that price and play around with 'rolling'.
For under half your budget you can get a used Antique Sound Labs AQ1001DT. I have had one for almost 2 years (a record for me). Reliable, sounds great with no mods (but does benefit from good tubes), and drives most speakers easily. I 'upgraded' to the Audiomat Arpege, but still preferred the ASL AQ1001DT, and sold the Arpege. Currently I am finding it preferrable to a Plinius 9200.
I was most impressed with the Antique Sound Labs 1001 DT integrated; well within that price range, new. Worth a listen if available...Fine resolution of detail, airy, lively sound; rich, warm but not fuzzy.
I just spend some time the the Consonance M100. This is a real sleeper. Very impressed. The huge power supplies and EL34s pull great low/mid bass from my AP Tempos. Highly recommended.
I'll second Newbee's advice. Primaluna II yields 40 watts, and includes hexfreds and auto-biasing.
Lean him towards the PrimaLuna if 35watts is enuf. Great little idiot proof tube amp. Perfect for newbies to tubes. Nothing to fuss over.