zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzboringzzzzzzzzzzzzz I have maybe 6 albums that snap crackle or pop out of 1200. 50 years and still love my vinyl and I do enjoy digital but not like I do vinyl.
Three reasons not to buy a turntable: snapcracklepop
@vladtheimpala
Three reasons not to buy a turntable: snapcracklepop
@vladtheimpala
Three reasons not to buy a turntable: snapcracklepop
@vladtheimpala
Three reasons not to buy a turntable: snapcracklepop
@vladtheimpala
Three reasons not to buy a turntable: snapcracklepop
Dear @jerryg123 : ""
afford the studio time it was laid to tape and is analog...""
There is where starts the analog higher distortions, the tape is totally imperfect for recording " analog " when in digital there is no single trouble about and way lower distortions.
Anyway, due that you have a misunderstood of my points or that I just did not explain it very well is useless to argue with you on that very specific issue facts because I'm not talking of what we like but what is rigth or wrong.. Each one of us like what we like and this is all what matters.
...as Spock would mutter in a 'lisp-y fashion'....
"Fhathinathing...."
I can only 'scribe it to a 'locking groove' in ones' grey goo...
My nightly weird query is:
What happened to the laser-tipped LP player that was going to:
'Revolutionize LP Playback! No contact, no noise, nothing but the music!'
It came, it went, it left no trace nor mention of spiralizing any vinyls.....
Did dust mote detection sound like hitting a boulder @ 176mph? (Scaled Down, of course...)
...personally, I like CDs' that exhibit the digital version of a 'locking groove'....
Have one with the 'magic factor', a random reverse to anywhere on the disc.... It literally will play until you stop it. Endless on 'n on 'n on 'n anon.... Fun to play to 'highly altered people' who suspect nothing but expect 'something' to occur....
"Wow.....that's a long CD......" 3ish hours later....
CD music is much, much better than playing a turntable. I play the turntable only when music is available from a vinyl record only. I do not hear any difference between/among reasonably-made cables, BUT I clearly hear big difference between CD and vinyl playing same music.
To all music lover, please do not waste your money to buy unnecessarily expensive cables, amp, pre-amp, etc. But get a nice pair of speaker, usually the more expensive, the better. I hope
unnecessarily-expensive cable makers go to all bankruptcy.
I find that playing my lps are better when I'm alone .Its very true it sucks getting up so often to turn the record over. I like cds when I'm working around the house or when people are over so I dont have the music stopping...Yes this was a pretty good .i mean i grew up in the 60s n 70s...having friends over and changing the records sucked especially after a few Cocktails that became a hard task, especially if you had a AR turntable.
I think for the "new to turntable looker" he brings some solid issues to the forefront.
I never recommend getting into vinyl if you have zero records and don’t have a current table. why its really not that much better, if at all, when comparing similar quality DAC/streamer (or computer) to a vinyl play back systems. lets not getting into the cost of the vinyl medium and the shody quality that’s coming out of the pressing plants these days. Also the cost of old records has sky rocketed in recent years. space to store records is an issue as well, mico loft anyone?
Very few people are comparing a $5000 table ( which is relatively cheep for a table/arm/cart/phono stage) with a $5000 DAC, usually the DAC in that system is less than the table system, by a significant margin. Most of my audio friends sort of compare the DAC purchases with a single part of the table playback system. example a new $2000 arm to a $2000 DAC. They rarely compare the price difference of a complete turntable playback system to the DAC/Streamer or computer system.
If you have built up a significant vinyl playback system it better be better than a digital system of much less value.
I know many people who’s vinyl playback systems as a whole cost upwards of $10k but there DAC is less than $2000.
The single box expensive item is harder to justify over a multiple component system built up over time. That’s one of the reasons it’s hard to move to exceptional digital. A $10,000 DAC sounds better than most (not all of course) vinyl playback systems of similar price. Not many people are spending that on a DAC though. Other than the converts or wealthier who can afford both.
People also forget there’s more difference in recording quality than anything else, mastering has a larger effect on sound than the medium IMO.
My low cost NOS dac with acoustic control of my rooms with speaker 2-way boxes sound better than my friend magnepan and turntable in a uncontrolled room...
And even if his magnepan are better in principle, the absence of acoustic control dont push them on their optimal level...
Dont bother with dac or turntable before acoustic inquiry in your own room...
You are absolutely correct. Many audio-gear-lovers (not music lovers) do not know how the room size and treatment are important.
<Music lover> Truly enjoy the very essence of music itself <Audio-gear-lover> Most time, try to change the sound from their stereo systems into their specific way such as more bass or tight bass. Try to believe more expensive stuff (cables etc.) to be better.
The price of new vinyl records...are you kidding me....the cost of a good diamond cartridge are you joking....the price of a vinyl cleaning machine...no way...the price of a good pre amp...no way......the price of a Good turntable....No thanks....the end.
Steve should follow up with 5 reasons not to own a CD player. Personally I haven't spun an audio disc in probably over a dozen years. I still like bluray for video though, and even got a few 4k discs.
I retired 10 months ago and am still struggling to get out of the time management mindset. I’m doing better. Other cars pass me on the road now- and I don’t care. Looking at this from a time management perspective Vinyl and reel to reel master tapes fall to the bottom of the list. For example, the most efficient way to listen to music is Satellite Radio. It has no commercials, plenty of genre choices and will just play and play and play. This is maximum music with almost no time investment. (Sound quality is well, ugh.)
Next is streaming digital. This is very efficient. This is the ultimate format for stressed and time challenged executives who can budget maybe 30 minutes a week to listening to music. (I have been there.) I can sit in my chair with my iPad and listen to just about any piece of music ever made. And I can listen to as many as 20 songs/hour. Yes, that’s right. I can play snippets of songs until I hit on something I really want to hear. The irony here is that I can’t stand current TV or many new movies because they switch cameras or viewpoints every 3 seconds or the camera is constantly moving. That drives me bonkers. I sure was one of those guys in the 90's that everyone hated if I had the TV remote. I had to know what was on all 135 channels.
CD’s are next on the list. I still have to get up and put the disc in the player but I can skip songs without having to get up. So I can play a CD anywhere from 5 to 45 minutes. I have a nice CD transport but I do not actually play CDs very often. Still, I find it relaxing and fun to spin discs now and then.
And then there is Vinyl. Reel to reel master tape is even less efficient but I have never owned such a rig as satisfying as it is. Vinyl is still king. It is more than just the great sound. It involves one in the recorded music. But it doesn’t start with the music. Vinyl starts with the setup of the gear. Every variable from cartridge, tonearm, table, cables and preamp selection to isolation, tonearm geometry and record preparation involves the listener and demands all of the listener’s attention. (Allow your mind to wander while preparing to play a record and PLINK! There goes the stylus.) I’m sure it is a dying art. After 50 years of playing records I still learn things about vinyl. Ok, so I started with my copy of Billion Dollar Babies on a portable record player and a penny on the tonearm. I’ve come a long way.
Every audiophile who plays records is a craftsman. It takes patience and skill to get that sound that startles the layperson. Admit it, it is always a thrill to play a record for someone and hear them exclaim how it is so clear and lifelike. We can debate over the best sound but Vinyl is the true payoff. Put in the effort and the reward is assured.
Even though the title of the video might seem a bit controversial for this forum it is really a light hearted philosophical survey on why ---- or why not to bother with records and the hardware that plays them. Guttenberg reminds me of a flower child straight out of Height Ashbury - summer 1967. Only I don't think he's old enough to have been there doing that.
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