I had a pair of Tekton Double Impacts that I sold when I moved to a smaller home. After a year of evaluating various smaller speakers I decided to go back to Tekton but with the more compact Electron SE. In my room these speakers work perfectly. The bass on these smaller speakers is unbelievably deep and tight. I miss none of the punch from the bigger Double Impacts. On mine's I used a single Beryllium tweeter on the middle of the array. The tops on these are very extended and crisp clear more so than the DBs. The imaging and sweet-spot is electrostatic-like with excellent ability to present the faintest details in a recording. In my appreciation other than the ability to convey a "bigger" bass the Electrons have a more refined sound and the bass in my room is more than sufficient with a tighter presntation than that of the DB's. Feel free to send questions if you have any.
"Oh, I’m sure there’s ones spent ten times 20 or 30k who are even more butt hurt."
I suspect that people who buy $30 000 speakers do not look in the rearview mirror that often. Who would buy $3000 speakers, if she/he could afford a $30 000 pair? Are $30 000 speakers usually crappy?
It may hurt to know that someone buys a $30 000 pair and does not feel butt hurt regardless of how cheap others have it. One only has to decide. A dinner at a really nice restaurant for a few friends, good wine included, or a pair of speakers?
Why insult people with more successful careers than one's own?
You'll find this with just about everything. Dude with expensive, sometimes hideously expensive item questions the validity/effectiveness/worthiness of the cheaper but well made purpose built item. It can't possibly be in the same league, somehow isn't suitable for it's purpose because it isn't "engineered" to the same standards as the more expensive item. Sometimes that last bit has more to do with over engineering and attention paid to things not conducive to the actual performance of the item.
I'm not against very expensive items. If I could swing it, as in not worry about $30K expenditures, I'd probably be looking in that range for my audio gear fix, but I'd also be very quick to get the cheaper item if it performed better for the money. All things being equal or slightly in favor of the more expensive item, I'd be looking at other attributes not related to sonics for my consideration. That's just me, and I won't say that all who spend a lot on speakers hate on the more budget gear and I'm also not of the opinion that the Moab is somehow better than the majority of $30K speakers, nor do I think that because a speaker costs $30K it must be good, but I do think it had better be :).
Given the broad range of products and possible combinations, and ears, don't forget the ears, it's hard to say what's really better amongst items at a particular performance level. I will say that after a lifetime of being exposed to live music, playing music, being in a choir, listening to various rigs at friends, family, stores, and at home over the past forty something years I think the Moab gets everything right to my ears and more than one should reasonably expect for $4500. To my ears, it becomes a question of how much more of it do I want, who makes it, and how much does it cost? So I think the Moab simply hangs in the playground of speakers that at the very least don't do much if anything wrong.
I enjoy engineering, I like seeing the different ways one approaches and solves a given technical problem. But if looks aren't the issue then it boils down to which design delivers the best result for the money. Sometimes you just don't have to spend too much to get there.
I am a completely disinterested, or maybe better described as a impartial party to Tekton products. I think that Tekton maybe receives just a little more criticism than other speaker brands. One guess why is perhaps this started a while ago when Eric was angered by some critical of the technology behind his product and rightly or wrongly threatened to sue the antagonizers on Audiogon.
Another guess is that there is a small number of Tekton owners who call anyone who has anything critical to say about their speakers as "haters". This points to a level of immaturity that for some of us creates an impression where we consider any of their other opinions, anywhere, with a grain of salt.
For many of us, for various reasons, any huge speaker of any brand will need to be used in a dedicated audio room or basement set up. Having monoliths in our family room just does not work, if you need to ask why don’t bother you would not understand.
I do not have expensive speakers. But if I purchased anything for $30k, and saw equal performance for $4K, that would not bother me at all if I liked the look of my purchase better and it gave me pride of ownership. As was mentioned before, if you are purchasing luxury goods your not sweating the small stuff. Some people find making large amounts of money easy and fun and spending it is the same. Anyone thinking that the purchaser of the luxury goods is "butt hurt" and jealous of the "working stiff" is clearly not able to see that these terms would better describe their own feelings.
I think "hater" is targeted at some very specific types of comments. I haven't seen where someone went off the rails because someone said they didn't like Tektons. I think it's the more to do with the uninformed comments that border on ignorance which trigger the responses, but I also haven't gone through every thread, so maybe I missed something. I've seen this same thing in Magnepan threads, especially in the Audio Asylum forums over a decade ago, I stopped visiting that place, got way too toxic for me to spend time wading through the noise.
And "butt hurt" can be fairly accurate for those people who can afford the more expensive things because if they weren't they wouldn't bother beating their chests about it and just enjoy their purchases while others enjoyed theirs. Again, this isn't a general statement as I've been part of plenty of discussions/arguments with both types, those that need to try and prove some point with the main argument being they paid more, and the other that is fortunate and desired the more expensive item but admires or understands the validity of the cheaper item.
There are plenty of broke mfrs who act snobbish when they come into possession of expensive products. So there's that.
Three Easy Payment you are really in need of help. FYI I am happily retired and do not sell anything for anyone. If you want to believe otherwise just take your posts somewhere else please. You are welcome to show your arrogant ignorance elsewhere. Same goes for all other conspiracy theorists out there.
I'm jumping in to support @wisty on this thread. It's this guy's 1st post & just to say he digs his speakers and it devolves into weirdness. Apparently mostly from the 3 dog nite guy, who got his posts removed, thankfully. Guys like 3 dog have issues that go beyond trolling forums.
So: Wisty, keep posting. Report the sad trolls who haven't been housebroken.
I'm a Zu guy (& Tannoy) and hope to own a set of Tektons also one day. Because, you know: Utah. I dig the big chewy texture speakers. Peace out.
Sorry if you said this already and I missed it misty. But its been a while and wondering what if any changes you've noticed. Mine (Moabs) were great right out of the box and did improve but seemed to follow Eric's guidance of only about 50 hours break-in. So curious what you heard with yours.
What the hell....an innocuous post inquiring about a specific speaker model turns into a vitriol diatribe filled with useless information. Talk about polarization.
It would have been nice if someone with experiences about that particular speaker posted useful information about the speaker being inquired about to inform you about their experiences. Which, BTW, forums were meant to be sources of helpful information for people like you. To share ideas and experiences with one another is a marvel thing.
Forget the inquiry...and don’t give a r@@@@7777$$$$$$ @$$$$$ about what others think when subjects like this go down the rabbit hole. It’s all on you, ask for a dealer or home trial. Go to specific manufacture forums and enjoy the presence of like minded individuals. Also, you may just want to direct message folks for further communication to eliminate the chatter. I think Dan Akroyd said it nicely, “Just the facts mamm” in the Blues Brothers. I am being cynical today, but it’s unfortunate that we will probably lose enthusiasm for forums like this until all that remain are some crusty old farts and supposed highly intellectual and educated people who have PHD’s in character attacks. I am old and crusty too, higher level education, disabled war veteran, but WTFO!
Hope you get the information you are looking for. For what it’s worth, Tekton speakers seem like a good brand and their top speaker was once was on my radar but I opted for something custom made from Classic Audio Loudspeakers. Good luck and I truly mean that coming from a real person, not an elitist.
What happens if a person who has, let's say, $30 000 speakers buys Tekton for his beach house and then realizes they are not anywhere close to the expensive pair? He reports it here and what then? Is he an elitist, Tekton-hater, deaf, not paid attention to synergy? Or he is the person with more experience and "right" to compare than most in this thread?
It’s easy...astute people can comprehend genuine feedback about products from those so inclined to report such findings. It’s so easy to decipher, identify and interpret behavioral traits in online conversations, you don’t need a PhD to understand...just common sense. To identify an elitist, one must understand what an elitist is: Elitist definition, (of a person or class of persons) considered superior by others or by themselves, as in intellect, talent, power, wealth, or position in society: elitist country clubbers who have theirs and don't care about anybody else. If the shoe fits, wear it.
In response to glupson hypothetical. If there was a difference there other differences as in is he using the same equipment also the room could be very different so i don't think there is enough there to say one way or the other. The problem is people on this thread will make their own conclusions anyway.
Thanks for all your responses. I, honestly, did not expect them.
I believe that many, if not most, of the posters around here have at some point had a few systems. Be it a $100 000 one with a Bluetooth speaker as a secondary one, or any other combination. As Tekton has largely favorable reviews, it is not hard to imagine an audiophile with enough disposable cash to select Tekton for a decent, but pricewise less so, system in some adjacent room. That person could find out that Tekton is not exactly ten times worse than primary speakers, but is not up to the level of more expensive pair. I doubt a person would feel butt hurt at that time. More like "I got what I paid for and a little more than I expected". Now, if she/he voiced that opinion, I am afraid that on Audiogon she/he would be called some unpleasant and undeserved names.
Having said that, are there $30 000 speakers that are significantly, or even insignificantly, worse than $4500 Tektons? I am only aware of $1 000 000 Wilsons that millercarbon referenced elsewhere. It would be nice, and maybe useful to someone looking for new speakers, if such duds were identified.
Hello Millercarbon, my Electrons took about 4 or 5 days to break in. Bass was deep but sloppy at the beginning but after about 4 days it tightened up to perfection.BTW I am one of those who had $30k speakers. I’ve also listened to many more speakers throughout the years because I was in the industry. Tekton is not the best speaker I’ve had. I can think of a few that would handily outperform them. But the Tekton Electron’s size just works the best in my room while it also offers a very respectable performance.
I too own Electron SE in red, opted for the bi-wire option. Glad I went this way over the basic DIs.
I feel mine sound fantastic with a Krell 50S class A power amp, and sound great at even low power late night.
Of course they can rock-it also from my Digital Amp Co. Megaschino class D ..... so lets just forget about all the no account crybabies chirping about nothing. These whiners probably have not even heard a SE pair.
Been with Tommy since 2012 or so as a Cherry owner, had his Cherry Ultra then ... and now the Megaschino. I have played with the Maraschino also. Always great reviews, but far from Mainstream snobbish audio as they still seem to distain class D as a car trunk amp POS. or is it really Advertising $$$ after all ??
*** zufan I not the prose writer, simply much prefer to ultilize my two God giving hearing organs. I whole heartedly will support you thou when pertinent.
So zufan which model of ZU speakers you own, and what Cherry you running?? PS: Tommy has my MEGA on the bench as we speak or perhaps off in testing now ..... getting his new rails installed. Mine is with 1800Watt trans, Cardas Binding posts, doulble Caps etc. Loaded!!
*** People on this forum ask stupid/silly/inane questions about their audio systems but never mention their rooms size, wall treatments, any pertinent problems as somebody is a mind reader. ***
I had always wanted the Essence ...seems the only ZU that can be considered as economical today is what the Dirty Weekend ... ?? Their prices have soared ...
PS: Tommy also stands behind this products 100% as I can attest from years earlier.
@musicbox78 Hiya: mine is the stereo cherry, aka the 'classic' cherry. Cherry amps have a cult following. I think when someone hears them, they buy one. My Zu are the Omen Def. More deets on my system page.
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Ever notice how the relentless and over-the-top praise tends to be
highly skewed towards the tiny shops led by one person? Tekton, Raven,
Herron, Perfect Path Technologies (now defunct), etc... A pattern and
practice of behavior.....hmmmmm...
" It seems so silly when everyone knows the best speakers are made in China & sold by Best Buy. Right? :)
Actually if you go back and look at posts from 2013-2015 there was a lot of criticism of Tekton for over promising and under delivering.
Then, a number of changes took place and things improved which allowed people to focus on the sound and not the complaints... and a lot of people liked the sound.
My point... people are fast to complain about things they don’t like... Tekton deserves praise for improving and making great sounding products at a reasonable price.
Full disclosure... I owned Tekton and enjoyed them... I now own Salks driven by a 2Cherry and really enjoy them also.
Since you have experience with both, what was the Tekton model and what is the Salk model that you use(d), and how did they differ in terms of sonic characteristics?
I use a couple of high end speakers (TAD, Schweikert) in my dedicated stereo room. I try to explore more "affordable" speakers in another room for multichannel and stereo.
Stuff from 3 designers, Andrew Jones, Danny Ritchie (GR) and Eric (Tekton) seems to consistently hit waayy above their price point. I had Tekton speakers in the past and I would put them up against some high end speakers. I only settled on the Adante series from Andrew Jones because I wanted it to be a series that I could also use for both stereo and multichannel.
There is plenty of crap posing as high end in the high end market. Only a few things are actually worth the price, ime. No, you don't always get what you paid for I suspect that it is primarily dealers for high end lurking on forums like these that try to thread crap whenever GR, Tekton, etc are discussed. If your stuff is so pristine, why are so insecure, Mr. dealer? (tk tsk) ...Your sht should shine ever so brightly above the rest and you should have no insecurities in life...no insecurities at all about earning your daily bread (wink wink).
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