Joe,
I've got two sets on the way to demo for my CDP and Pre. How did you set yours up? dome facing up or down? one in back and two at the front or other way around?
any tips for playing with these things? |
I agree the Hologram D is jawdroping as Tbg described. Wait to you hear Synergistic's new MIG footers under your CDP. I just got them today. WOW! Review soon... ;-) I also have a set under my integrated. |
Tbg, thank you to report your experiment. It is one can what I thought following the reading of the reactions of the other owners of Hologram D. In my comparative between T2 and the T3, the T3 is above T2, but it is not the day and the night.
I will order 3 more Galileo and surely 1 Hologram D. After an Apex IC and 1 Galileo last month, my banker surely will kill me. |
Jazz 59, not the T3, but the Hologram D versus the T2 was a jawdroping experience. With the Hologram D the sound is more encompassing, dynamic, deeper, quieter. I did this on a music server, several cdps and several sacd players, and on several dacs. |
I have just placed my T3 on my CDP instead of T2 and I like much better. I have already an Apex XLR on the CDP to the preamp, a Precision Ref. IC XLR on the preamp to amp and Precision Ref. SC, I have also Galileo which I placed on my PR IC and obtained a better listening than on the Apex.
Anyone already compared the T3 to Hologram D on its CDP? Which are the differences? Is this a great improvement?
Thanks. |
Ok all, wrong context on my part(my bad!!) . I am going to purchase a Powercell and I am ordering custom wall shelves(resonant control...etc..) from Hifi Pyon. My power amp(87lbs) which runs warm-warmer will be on platform center floor, then Powercell on wall shelf above, then my center channel on shelf, then plasma. Blu Ray, Sat, Pre pro will be to left/right of powercell.
I am measuring up the wall and need to know how close can the speaker be from Powercell. Also, I don't want my Samsung 58" plasma too high up...thus the heat question...thx all for your quick responses and help....especially you Ted D.
Regards Bacardi |
My PowerCell is at room temperature with every outlet in use including one to a QLS9 and all of its outlets are taken.
If you have any heat, something is seriously wrong. |
just wondering if anyone has compared any SR's with Tel Wire's. I really like the latter and have heard nothing but good things about the SR's. |
I would give the factory a call. I use a 10SE and as joey says it's cool. |
My Powercell does not radiate any heat and is cold to the touch with all the outlets in use. |
Anyone experience any excessive heat from there Powercell 6,10 or 10SE??
Regards Paul |
Anyone experience any excessive heat from there Powercell 6,10 or 10SE??
Regards Paul |
I don't think there is any potential for a fire hazard. |
"Is it OK to have two power cords on a single MPC?"
I have a single MPC powering (2) T2 power cords with no sound degradation. But they are on the analog side. T2 on preamp & T2 on QLS-9.
I'm interested on what others have to say if the dual leads will work on a Hologram D combination (e.g., Hologram D & preamp/power amp pc).
I have a fire ext. in my kitchen just in case. |
Is it OK to have two power cords on a single MPC? |
Tbg, you're right. Mixing power and signal or digital and analog on the same MPC's are definite no-no's. Btw, what sonic difference did you hear when you upgraded to Galileo MPC on your D3? |
Airport, I used a Galileo MPC on my D3 and a power cord, and thought something was seriously wrong with my system. When I put the D3 on its own everything was dramatically improved. Perhaps the D3 is a different animal, but when I asked Ted about this, he told me that I should not mix signal and power cables on the same MPC. |
Someone mentioned from a previous post not to mix digital and analog signals. I have MPC's powering ic's and sc's with no problems. But my D3 is a lone ranger with a single lead MPC. |
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know if it would be okay to use a dual lead
Galileo mpc on a D2 digital ic. Is it possible that the
spare lead would pick up any interference? Is there a
way to ground the unused lead. I wont to stick with the
dual lead G-mpc so that I have the option to try the G-mpc
on future SR ic's.
Thanks. |
It's getting there. They are making an entirely new site and then switching over when it's done. |
They claim they will shortly. |
Does anyone know if S.R will start showing there new stuff from CES 2010 on the web site, or even finnish the site from the Tesla seies???
Regards Bacardi |
Ted, you are good...
Agreed you need to trust your ears. However there are a lot people, specially non us, who can not possibly hear before buying. Like my case and surely many others. Is for these individuals that forums like this one has a lot of value if carried out right, and credibility of posters and content is key.
Being this forum the most vast source of info regarding SR products on the Web, there needs to be special care taken on these kind of things. Not sure I would buy that story if I was not a customer myself already. I have banned other manufacturers/products I was considering before for posts that looked to be "cooked".
Now not saying that is the case here. Only it looks like it. I have heard your products (actually I own many of them if you see my system) and think they are good. This include HA, HD, P. AC, T2, Powercell, Apex biwire, Apex XLR, PR, Galileo MPCs...
Now I'm considering some phono and digital, but I'm having some problems lately on recently acquired MPC and PR that I would like to comment with you to see how I can get solved, since I'm not getting a solution from SR post sell. I'm confident it is an isolated case and that it will be solved soon.
Will send you a mail with my particular case, not to get people bored.
Thanks |
Eelii08,
I agree with you, it does not look very good. The day I made that post I was simultaneously working on our new website over several computers all running different versions of Windows and OS X in different browsers (thatÂ’s actually what I am doing today). I was also conducting a demonstration of the new Galileo Universal Cells for a local audiophile (Shellie). Later that day we had a distributor stopping by to hear the Galileo Cells and MiGs so we were preparing for that. The phone was ringing off the hook and I was taking technical calls. Basically a hectic day in a small research based company.
While demonstrating the Galileo Universal Cells, taking them out, playing a track and placing them back in our reference system Shellie mentioned Bacardi's post. In between tracks I sat down at one of the computers in the next room and banged out a response to Bacardi's question not noticing Shellie had logged on to AG using that computer. I don't expect anyone to give me a pass but that in a nutshell is what happened.
As to wondering about the validity of posts on an anonymous Internet discussion group, you should be skeptical- very skeptical. At the end of the day you need to trust your ears and draw your own conclusions.
Yours in music,
Ted Denney III
Lead Designer, Synergistic Research Inc. |
I'd posted this as a seperate thread and didn't get any responses.
Teslaplex and outlet covers? Anyone experimented?
The Oyaide is a bit too expensive for me.... but furutech has a carbon and brass cover and Acme has a really beautiful Ebony wood cover... then there's all the other various plastic, stainless, brass, etc.
Anyone played with these with their teslaplex?
thanks! |
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01-26-10: Shellie
I was visiting the SR factory today to see and hear the new Galileo cable cells (amazing). While I was there I asked Ted about Bacardi's idea for an Active HDMI cable and learned that Ted already has one at home. Long story short Ted went on to post the basic gist of our conversation to this thread not realizing that I was already logged in on his computer. I apologize for any problems this may cause and hope people will understand.
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This, right next to a message sent by Ted on the same day giving some advice..... under the name and nick of Shellie... You can check a few posts back if you missed.
So now, how many of you think Shellie and Ted are the same person?
Makes me wonder how many other posters could also, potentially be SR staff...
Not saying anything. Just does not look too good. Check Shellie's answers on this site. Not too many interest beyond SR products.... Strange at the very least. So Am I being overly suspicious, or others also think there could be a case of double personality here. |
---> Airportsyndrome
Thank you very much for measurements. I have asked about it.
You have done what was impossible for other users and even for famous Synergistic Research customer serviceÂ…
Thank you once again. |
Joeyboynj, I have all of my SR power cords plugged into the PowerCell leaving room only for the charger of the PC cord and PC and for the T2 that leads to my QLS-9, all of whose outlets are occupied by MPCs. As I have said behind my rack is a rats nest. What neatness I had was lost when I changed to the StillPoints rack. I ardently hope for a new Enigma in the near future.
I hasten to tell everyone that the PowerCell itself greatly improves with isolation feet beneath it. Try Migs there or other feet, such as StillPoints, and you will not go back. |
Someone asked about the Powercell SE's dimensions. I took the measurements and here's what I came up with:
- 451mm (17.75") width
- 362mm (14.25") depth
- 140mm (5.5") height |
Or if it's on a rack, back it up flush with the rear of the shelf and the MPCs can hang off the back. |
Ozzy, I was wondering the same thing a few days ago how someone would raise their Powercell in order to connect their MPC's.
I ended up buying a QLS 9 with a T2 (like Ted suggested) connected to my Powercell SE and it works well with all my MPC's. The QLS 9 is anchored on the wall. Although now I'm starting to run out of outlets on my QLS9. Another QLS9 & T2 in my foreseeable future... |
Joeyboynj , How did you get the Mini Couplers plugged into the bottom outlet on the Powercell ?
Are you using cones? |
Ozzy, Yes, going all Galileo is a significant improvement over the Quattro. I would not have sold the Quattro if it was not. I have all the MPC's plugged into the bottom outlets on my Powercell 10SE and I neatly coiled all the cables and they hide neatly under my audio rack and neatly snake to the DC plugs on my cables. My setup looks very neat and tidy. Just takes a little planning. Get a rack that has feet on a clearance underneath and neatly hide the wire there like I did. |
02-10-10: Adwiegert
"Today I spent the past 5 hours listening to a song with one cable, swapping to the other and listening again, rinsing and repeating before moving on to another CD or song."
Adwiegert,
Were you washing your hair during all this? I try to rinse and repeat also. (o: |
Tbg. Yes I am selling it and with all the leads and T2(mpc).
Regards Bacardi |
I can't figure out which to go with on the preamp! I've given both 4 days to settle before intensive listening. And now I've rigged them up so I can swap them back and forth without moving them very much.
Today I spent the past 5 hours listening to a song with one cable, swapping to the other and listening again, rinsing and repeating before moving on to another CD or song.
If I had only auditioned the T2 on the preamp I would be perfectly happy with it. But the T3 adds some things I really like... but it also adds some things I'm not sure of. It makes the T2 sound a tad thin in the midrange with a little less body and soundstage width... but the T2 makes the T3 sound overly warm at times... to the point were it's a bit closed in.
I have a headache now. |
Ozzy, I know what you are saying. It looks like a snake's nest behind my system. But I do suspect you are losing a good deal. I never heard a Quattro, but the Galileo MPCs are exceed the originals.
I would not be surprised were there a new Quattro or Enigma soon.
Bacardi, are you selling your Quattro? |
The Galileo's may be better than the Quattro in sound performance but I dont like all the mini couplers to deal with.
Besides, with the Powercell using 2 Galileos and the Quattro being plugged into the Powercell, am I really missing that much? |
Adwiegert is correct, I sold my Quattro and bought all Galileo MPC's for all 10 shields in my system. The Galileo's crush the Quattro in performance. The details have been discussed in previous posts. |
No... because I'm using Galileo MPCs. Ted puts the quattro at the bottom sound wise... and the Galileo MPCs on a QLS with precision PC near Enigma sound quality when plugged into a powercell. |
Adwiegert, have you considered a Quattro instead of MPC's??
Regards Bacardi |
Bacardi,
I would love love love to do that but I don't have that kind of money (hence the T series cords), especially after picking up that precision.
Right now I have the following
QLS-9 with Precision PC (CDP and Pre along with 4 MPCs plugged into the QLS)
T3 on amp into wall
Both into Teslaplex.
On loan are two T3s and a T2.
One T3 is on the CDP and I'm swapping back and forth between the T2 and T3 on the pre. We'll call this combo A.
Other options I'm considering are the following combos
Combo B
T3 on CDP
T2/T3 on pre
T3 on amp moved from wall to QLS
Precision left on QLS
Combo C
T3 on CDP
T2/T3 on pre
Precision on amp into wall
T3 on QLS
If I had the money I'd just buy a powercell 10se, a Hologram A, Hologram D and put my precision on the preamp with the T3 from the powercell to the QLS for powering the MPCs.
Anyone have suggestions? |
Bacardi , I dont have a QLS , only the Powercell 10SE and the Quattro. |
Adwiegert. My suggestion would be to try a Hologram A(one for sale on Audiogon at moment) on your amp plugged directly to the wall(teslaplex). I had a T3 on my amp and the Hologram A was a huge difference(hence my previous forum conclusions).If you replace it with the T3 then move the T3 to subwoofer if you have one. The T3 will be the best cord in the S.R Tesla line for a sub....Hands down...
Regards Bacardi |
Any thoughts on T2 vs a T3 on preamp? mine are plugged into a QLS-9 with a precision on it as well. CDP has a T3 on it as does the Amp, but the amp is plugged direct into the wall. |
Ozzy, what do you have plugged into the QLS??
Regards Bacardi |
Bacardi, I have a T2 powering a Quattro. The Quattro is powered by my Powercell 10SE. The Powercell has Gallio Mini couplers. My Preamp(Pass Labs XP-10)sounds was better with the Precision power cord than when I used the T2 on it. |
Ozzy, do you have a QLS with a T2 on it? If so, switch it with your Precision AC on your pre -amp. I have it that way and noticed a big difference in soundstage and dynamics. I think seeing as though most of my S.R cords are plugged into the QLS9 it does more for the overall sound than the T2. Cleaner, blacker, open soundstage and boosts the sheilding dramatically. It gives a very delicate and intense quality to the sound when needed.
Regards Bacardi |
Bacardi,
We are working on a MASSIVE new website that when live will be updated on a daily to weekly basis. This dynamic format is necessary to cover the rapid state of progress we are making on existing and upcoming technologies like the MIG's, Galileo, and recording industry innovations which will have a significant impact not only on audio playback, but also on how recordings are made.
Stay tuned but if you have questions that need answers now, feel free to contact me at the factory.
Yours in music,
Ted Denney III
Lead Designer, Owner Synergistic Research Inc. |
Update: from 1-20-2010 post
Well I have moved the Precision Ref Power cord back to my Preamp and the Hologram A back to my Amp. This is the way I will keep it.
It sounds more natural.
The Precision Ref is a very good power cord, and in my system it should be used on my Preamp. It was much better than the T2 that everyone recommends for Preamps.
So, I guess trial and error is still the best way to see what works best for each component. |
