Sabai, I hear a muddled mess. You should start with a nuclear generator. |
Rydenfan, I think you are going to be very happy. |
Yes, but it is not just a power cord. It will be at the RMAF. I don't know much about it, however. It will be very expensive. |
Yes, it is based on PowerCell technologies, whatever that means. I look forward to hearing it at the RMAF. Five digits!!! |
Adhaney, I heard about it from SR, but no real details other than that I better come by at the RMAF and hear it. |
I was impressed with the sound at CES but didn't have time to hear a demo. Have you had one yet? |
The sole exception I would make to the above is to say that my linestage did not like the Hologram A. The simple T2 was better. |
Err, the first is unbalanced and the second is balanced. To use it properly you will need balanced outputs and inputs. |
Dave_b, I believe you like the MITs, but they are no more proven technologies than any other cables. If a buyer likes another cable, he or she need not "beware" if they are not MITs. |
Bacardi, do you have three wires at your outlets or two? If you have three, I believe all of your outlets already have 20 amp outlets regardless of what size fuse there is on the circuit. If you have any real doubt, get an electrician to come out. |
You know that all that differs on it is being zapped with a million volts. I have one coming along with a Power Cell and pcs. |
Scotty333, I just wonder if they are rack dependent. I have a StillPoints Rack.
I guess they must be doing an electronic field something like that in the PowerCells. |
Bacardi, I am going to install my Tesla duplex after I get accustomed to the Power Cell and the T2s. I just got everything yesterday, so it may be a while. |
Does Synergistic have an exchange policy?
I never really paid much attention to this company until I heard the ARTs demonstration at the RMAF. |
Bacardi, see my comments on the Teslaplex at
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?htech&1228107456&openmine&zzTbg&4&5#Tbg |
Sherod, I, of course, have no experience with the PorterPort. My comparison is nowhere near that done by Dlcockrum on the thread above. He has the advantage of quick a/b comparison. Actually, Dave came here some time ago agog with the Tesla outlet. I was already greatly impressed with the SR ARTs. I approached SR about it and the PowerCell.
I put the PowerCell in first and compared it with my IsoClean outlet driving my Acoustic Revive RTP-6. It was no contest. The sound stage was wider and more precise with lower background noise as well as rising vertically? I have never understood this impression, I must say. The bass was well defined and directional, and the top end was sparkling.
Yesterday I replaced an Eagle outlet on my other dedicated line with the Tesla. After five hours it was obviously also contributing to further improvement with the PowerCell. Best Audiophile Voices was "real" last night, but Sinatra & Basie at the Sands ranged from poor at the beginning to pretty good at the end. The SR combo really exposes the quality of the recording.
I suspect that the majority of the improvement is from the PowerCell, but the little outlet is worth it. I am no longer using the IsoClean, the Sound Applications/Jena Labs, or the R1.
I should also note that I expect great improvements today. |
Well, Ted, as much as I like your stuff, I have to disagree about plastic and wood. I have found that only ceramics and even there some more than others, have the neutrality that I value.
I bought some surplus 18KV isolators because they were tall and did not move. Unfortunately, I had to put a small better sounding ceramic isolator on top each. Those that I found best were from Rightway Audio and called Suspenders. Unfortunately, I think they are now out of business.
Norm |
I have independently talked with Ted and now know that he really means that he does not like ceramic insulators, such as I am using as they resonate. Wood may work best on his cords
Long ago I did extensive tests of maple, walnut, pine, glass, special foam such as used in shipping memory chips, ceramic coffee cups, cardboard, chop sticks, and support on strings. This was with no Synergistic Research cords or cables. I greatly preferred the ceramics. I will be trying the SRs soon with some of the above, but I am from Missouri, so I have to be shown. |
Bacardi, unplug the wallwart from the PowerCell if you want to quickly heard what the field inside is doing. The blue LED will go out. I never thought of this until talking with SR today. |
Ozzy, I have both and just checked. They look to be the same except for the connector. The 32a connector is very nice.
Rydenfan, I also used the plastic wall plate. Maybe at some point I will try some thing else. |
Joeyboynj, I tried a SR Precision on my amp versus the Hologram A, it lost. But wow did it work great on the line stage. I just love the way everything is trial and error. You need to get a Hologram D for your digital. |
Ozzy, my thoughts entirely follow what you have said here, save that I had no experience with the PowerCell 10 Standard. My 10SE was good out of the box but much better the second day. Each of the SR power cords also showed a one or two day break in.
I too have unused dedicated circuits.
The 32 amp connector turns to snap into locked position. The lock will be at the top of the plug when locked.
I posted this on your review also. |
Shellie, I bought the ARTs at the RMAF on hearing their demonstration. I find your question curious and don't exactly know what you mean by "still retaining benefits." However I do have experience in installing them in my room. As I added each component and then further adjusted them to the proper height, to a position closer to my listening position than the first reflection point, and to slightly further toward the front wall on the floor behind my equipment centered between my speakers, I heard great improvements. It probably takes several hours do get this all right. |
Jylee, I think you have to say something about which grade of each you are thinking about.
Bacardi, you sound like Ted describing the mix of cables that goes into each. |
Joeyboynj, I initially put the PowerCell on a Mana Stand but have never tried it off the stand or on any other stand. Maybe I should try this. |
Bacardi, I assume you have no PowerCell. If so, plug directly into the wall. You will have fewer contacts.
Flashunlock, I used the Sanders Sound Magtech amp into the PowerCell. This amp has 500 watts per side and sounded excellent into the PowerCell, which is not current limiting. |
I considered what I might put under my SR PowerCell tonight. Because of the stiffness of the Hologram A and Ds as well as the Precision power cord to the wall, I ruled out any cones. It would just be too unstable. I do have an unused Acapella Silencio base which does provide excellent isolation. Frankly the task of unplugging everything, removing the PowerCell, placing the Acapella on the Mana stand, and reinstalling everything, is just too daunting for the little gain I think I would get. I do have some solid carbon feet that I could just pick up a corner and install all around. I might try that. I also have regular and pro Aerios, but the Mana top would have to be perfectly level. I also have one of Walker's platforms for the Walker Velocitor but it is small. It really works, however. |
If this is a question of me, the charging in is at the source. The arrow should go toward the subwoofer amp. |
I have through trial and error and with Ted's advice found the right combination. The line and phono stages like the TESLA T2s, the amp the Hologram A, and the Precision AC struck out everywhere except driving the 10SE PowerCell. |
Bacardi, I have learned that all Synergistic Research ics are the same except at the terminations. I doubt if there would be any difference between single ended and balanced. |
Bacardi, the Precision ic is recommended for between line stage and amp. It is very fast.
I compared the Tesla T2, Precision AC, and Hologram A on my H-Cat amp. The Precision was third, the T2 next, and the Hologram A clearly best. The Precision is mainly for tube amps, I am told.
Flashunlock, is your amp a tube amp?
On my H-Cat line stage, the T2 was best. All of these cables have certain characteristics which SR is pretty predictive of.
Guys, these power cords get better and better for months. |
Sherod, you are not overlooking the Teslaplex; it is not on their site. It strikes me that it is a normal Leviton hospital grade outlet, but the zapping does wonders. I also have normal Home Depot cheaters that have been zapped. If you compare them with the unzapped version, you would not doubt the improvement you get with Quantum Tunneling. I have had many cryoed components. Using the Vandergraff has far greater benefit. |
They did treat some cheaters for me and apparently are considering having them available. But you know that I have the H-Cat P12R which almost necessitates having only the line stage grounded. I don't know, nor do they, how many need such outstanding cheaters. |
Sherod, go to SR page and look under Tesla and at bottom Tunneling footage. |
I don't care where Ted gets his ideas. What matters is that it works. |
Bacardi, trust me you would regret not having 10 plug-ins. Buy the 10SE. |
I love the Apex speaker cables but have not tried the Precision Reference. |
Joeyboynj, SR does provide a Precision AC on the PowerCell. They also recommend it for large tube amps and some ss amps. On the two ss amps where I tried it, the Hologram A was quite superior.YMMV. |
Autentic, I just flat out dislike the Precision AC cord on anything, but SR thought I might like it on my amp. The Halogram A was great on my amp and the Halogram D was better on my music server and the sacd player. The T2 is the surprising pc for me. It is clearly best on my line and phono stages and, I think, on my dac.
Joeyboynj, I have not tried the Precision speaker wires, but you are right on about the bass on the Apex speaker cables. I was told the same things about the Precision AC, but that some ss amps. Not mine. |
Yes, I have a D3 and two Hologram Ds. Frankly I am amaze at the improvement they give. The D3 far surpasses my Stealth Sextet, which was the best I had tried. The Hologram D on my music server caused me such disbelief that I went to the trouble to put back the other power cord and to try yet others in this application, but the Hologram D blew them away. |
Bacardi, I agree with Adwiegert, try both ways. I never did, however, until this summer. But even there I could not switch back and forth as I left my PowerCell in Texas. |
Splaskin, if your going to the RMAF, you can hear them. You will be shocked by the price, I must say. |
Bacardi, this is what their webpage says, "We have always been aware of just how important phase coherency is in signal transfer. Now through our research we have discovered that lower frequencies are extremely sensitive to very small changes in phase coherency. For example: A 20 hertz low frequency wave requires at least 40 feet to propagate. If the phase is out, by just a little, it provides an unstable platform for the frequencies that are directly above that. Higher frequencies have shorter wave lengths and these are adversely affected by phase shift anomalies at the lower frequency range." |
Bacardi and Shellie, the Tesla Precision References are very fast and in my experience best used between the linestage and the amp. I thought the Accelerators were better elsewhere and, of course, the Apex.
Dave_b, sorry but I don't believe you and will not give them a try. Perhaps my having done such before with no benefit is my best reason. |
Bacardi, I think you would prefer what you now have, but I am not certain.
Ozzy, what is the Quattro?
Ptm, yes it makes a difference. I have all of my MPCs plugged into a QLS-9 which is plugged into the PowerCell. This sounds much better than when they were just plugged into another power strip.
There will soon be Galileo MPCs. |
I did not even know of the Quattro until today. I have heard the Enigma and of the prospects for an Enigma II. |
Ozzy, I wonder why Ted has never said anything about the Quattro and why it has no prominence on their webpage. It certainly is a tangle of wires behind my system.
Bacardi, I tried several of the power cords between the PowerCell and my QLS 9, including the Precision AC. I preferred the tunneled simple power cord, but I must say its short length was much less cluttered. |
Well, I got my Exemplar Music Server up and running tonight. My Mac remote desktop had a hard drive failure. This meant that I had to move one of my two SR Hologram Ds to it. I tried the T2, but it did cut it. Curiously the T2 sounds best on my H-Cat P 12. I guess I have to get another Hologram D or stop playing the sacd player. I should also say that the Hologram D did not like being moved and took two hours to get where it was late tonight. Tomorrow it is be back to its best performance. |
I saw them but had no opportunity to hear them versus the big ARTs. The Galileo speaker wires and ics were their main focus. |
The Basiks at least come with screws holding them to their bases. |
