Subwoofer Advice

@soix Thanks for the suggestion, you have always been an advocate for the SB1000s. They seem to be a great deal.

@russ69 are you saying move on from the MLs and hook up with some Infinity RS1B towers or Tektons?

@dmaddox77 Yes, I heard something about ML’s new subwoofer line, but I don’t see them for sale on their website yet, but I will check it out.

@mijostyn My room is 15’ wide x 22’ long with the kitchen off to the right of the right speaker, you can see pictures in my virtual system. Yes, I have the ARC kit. I tried this when I first got the speakers and wasn’t all that impressed with the results. I will definitely give it a shot again. Thank you for reminding me about this Mike, any help would GREATLY be appreciated!

@audio_rd_uk and others who have chimed in, thank you!

I don't think I would go any smaller than 12" drivers for subs, but I have heard REL and KEF subs with smaller drivers that were surprisingly good for their size, but expensive.

I would look at the SVS SB-1000 or get a pair of Rythmik sealed subs for the best sound.  The Rythmiks would be a little over budget, but a worthwhile investment.  If you can find a different place to hide a small sub and get it somewhere else in the room, the SVS subs might be better.  There are wireless options and they come with an app that lets you adjust the sound remotely.

Recommend you look at Hsu Subs, https://hsuresearch.com/collections/collections-true-subwoofers-subset-collection

I use dual Rythmick F12. I offer no recommendations as to your specific subs questions, but I will offer one about placement. Placing both subs either right inside or outside of the speakers is far from ideal. In my house of stereo it resulted in very overly bloated bass along the back wall of the room. I then took the advice of one of the members here who said subs need to be on different walls and at different locations. After experimenting, one ended up on the right side of the front wall, the other a third down along the left sidewall. The result was astounding, it solved all my bloated bass issues.

I have 2 x SVS 3000 micro's used with Trinnov correction alongside my Wilson Benesch front speakers in my Lounge.  The micro's were chosen over the SB1000's only because I could not get a position (as I do in my other room where I have SVS 16's to get front firing alignment (partly done with Sneakers Track 4, partly with Trinnov).  I would agree with @soix  and @rajugsw that the 1000 / 1000 pro would be better for that use and would have gone that way if space allowed (micro's are behind slightly outboard).  But they do (with the correction applied) do a very good job.  But, I haven't tried to time align them through position without the correction and I suspect, having tried that once before with a Kef dual firing unit that it would be more difficult to get a satisfactory result and both this and discussions with Trinnov on emerging technologies such as their wave forming would, wherever possible lead me towards a front firing sealed box wherever possible.

What is the size of the room the MLs are in? Did you get the Anthem room correction for it? Does it have a bass EQ function?  I can help you figure this out, but I need this info first. It is possible you may not need a subwoofer at all. 

Mike

I run 4 SB-1000's (no Bluetooth). Small, tight, sealed box, and they were cheap ! The front one's in are in phase. The rears are 180° out of phase, Tunes the room's Bass nodes perfectly. I still have a 50Hz - 60 Hz hump in the room. But I like it. I don't use any DSP and chose to tune the room instead.

I listen to A LOT of SACD's/DSD files and refuse to convert the DSD to a PCM stream (been there, done it, got the T-Shirt).

Two subs. One for each channel best. The bigger the room the bigger the sub(s). 

Martin Logan Abyss10 that they just came out with.

Also if you can find a force cancelation sub that might work also.  The ML balnceforce 10 is just a hair too big. As is the Rythmik G22.  I own a power sound audio dual 12 that they don't make anymore.

What is the size of the room?

I ran Infinity RS1B towers with my stuff. Nothing worked better. You will see most big loudspeaker systems run towers. I see Tekton sells a few different kinds, I'd be tempted..

I was wondering about a pair of SVS Micros. Do you think they would complement the 13As or do I need something bigger?

IMO the SB1000 Pro is a much better sub than the Micro and not all that much bigger, and on top of that they’re significantly cheaper and you can get two for under $1200.  No brainer in my book if you can fit them.  Hope this helps.