Sound quality differences in streamers


Can there be sonic differences between moderate and high priced streamers when used for streaming only. I will not use or engage an onboard DAC or any other feature, just stream from Tidal or Amazon to DAC. If the unit is just transferring zeros and ones to a DAC can there be differences in say a $300 WiiM and a $3000 dSC streamer? Thanks

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@mdalton 

thank you for your well-mannered reply, mdalton; ) - my response is just to say that my post was indeed relevant to your fundamental point, which claims that everything that matters can be measured. I provided links to articles that say this is not true.

And just one other thing, you also claim that you’re ’simply providing an alternative perspective to help others educate themselves to make informed decisions’ - I would argue this is not true either. I persuade others to critically listen for themselves to decide, and provide links to help broaden knowledge. Your telling others and  less experienced audiophiles not to bother listening and learning for themselves because the ‘science’ and the measurements tell the full story, is not an alternative perspective nor is it a helping hand towards education and informed decisions - it is the basis of indoctrination and the very foundation of confirmation bias itself. 
I so hope you will make a little time to reflect on this.

In friendship - kevin

lol! We’ll just have to disagree on that.  I’ve provided my 20+ years’ streaming experiencelinks to discussions where multiple perspectives have been shared, industry resources for helping others evaluate products, and credible explanations for my and others’ experiences base in science and logic.  Pretty much the opposite of confirmation bias.

Within the context of using Roon, I have clearly heard sonic differences between different streamers, but not between competent servers.  

Some of the devices discussed in these threads are actually server/streamers as they perform both functions.  When using Roon, it is convenient to network your server, which allows you to operate multiple music systems through different streamers located in different zones throughout your home. 

 

@mgrif104 thanks for mentioning Positive Feedback's review of Switch X. I had no idea of the inner workings. This unfortunately is beyond my budget but have recently been made aware of the Hyperlink-Network Switch from Fidelizer, available at a very much more affordable price.

I tied but couldn't post a link. Experience with Fidelizer Pro was impressive as are the glowing and numerous reviews of his Nimitra streamer.

Unfortunately, too many people still treat digital like analog. 

Were this a freezing night in 1910, those people would throw a thick blanket over the hood of their new automobile so the engine doesn’t catch cold.

When it comes to digital components, the reality is that the sound quality delta between entry-level and state-of-the-art is far, far narrower than in the analog world, including amplifiers and speakers.

A $200 Chinese DAC is going to sound okay, maybe a little harsh and tinny. Plug it into a good preamp, now it sounds pretty good! Whereas a $200 amp is useless for anything beyond midfi desktop background music to listen to while your zoom meetings are on mute.

It follows that, when building a good system, one’s efforts are best focused on the primary components - preamplifier, amplifiers and speakers. These form the living core of any system. Only if and when that’s dialed does it make sense to shift focus to digital components and cables.