Some Cables Thoughts

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@audphile1 I stuck with the Audio Envy 2’ power cord for the amp because I got both male and female male, in the 90° figuration. That will allow me to get the amp close-up to the wall.

I looked at the Audience Forte F3 and there are a great price as you suggested, but they’re a little bit long and I don’t think for the music server, DAC, preamp, need such a heavy duty cord. The F3s are 10 AWG. I’m thinking  probably a good 14 AWG cord would be sufficient for these pieces, so still on the hunt!  
DH Labs Has a decent lineup of recently priced power cords,

OK thank you, I will check it out tomorrow!

I’m using Audience Forte F3 on my Pass monoblocks. They’re good 10 gauge power cords. Check partsconnexion for these. They may be running a special and you can save a few bucks. 

Scratch that…it’s a 90 degree IEC plug. 

Here's a few in that price range I've been looking at:

https://ravenaudio.com/product/power-cables/?_ga=2.134956981.594107943.1708477025-685170934.1708477025

https://www.thecableco.com/specials/forte-f3-powerchord.html

https://wyred4sound.com/products/p-1-ultra-power?variant=28622119698506

https://silversonic.com/products/power-cables/encore/

For power cords…if I’m not mistaking Nordost Heimdall 2 comes with a 90 degree AC connector. I would try that on the amp if I were you. 

See if linkup cable is within reach and comes in thr length you need.
https://a.co/d/5kPfmtr

@audphile1 Another AG member recommendation. I’m backing off the DIY so I liked the fact that they offer 90 degree ends. I need 4 power cords, amp, pre-amp, Aurender and DAC.

I haven’t ordered them yet, so still open to suggestions. They were just over $200 a crack.

Will this suffice modem to router: 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08MXY9ZKS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 

Cool. You’re going to like the purist. For power cords…why audio envy? I am not familiar with their cables but just curious what’s prompted you to choose that brand for the Aurender streamer?

@audphile1 Not using ROON any longer so I'm using both the Aurender app with some music on the internal hard drives.  I also have my Tidal HiFi account linked up to it. Cables right now are both a DH Labs USB & coaxial. They both sound about the same but I use the USB the most. I have disconnected the FMCs and am using a run of the mill cat6. I ordered a Purist 7 from Cable Co today and will order Audio Envy power cords tomorrow.

What’s your interface between n200 and dac?

@audio_is_subjective 👍

@audphile1 You sure got that wrong. Audio is subjective, not everything. That is clear. 

Everything is subjective! Lol

@navyachts not my intention nor am I worried. 😏

busy first day on the job, you'll go far with that handle of your here...LOL

OK, I will order the balance of my cables tomorrow. Thanks for the clarification. I just noticed a lot more base with the new cables at this point. We’ll see how further changes influence that. It’s kinda like going from the renderer in the R26 DAC to the Aurender N200, did I hear a difference, yes, but a $4,000 difference...no.

I still think I need to tweak my DAC. @yyzsantabarbara recommends the Schitt LIM and you and @ghrdprentice recommended the cord TT2. It’s easy to try the Schitt product because of their 15-day return policy, but with all the money I spent on cabling, I don’t think I’ll be able to swing for a new cord TT 2, so I’ll have to buy used, which will make it more difficult to deal with if it’s not too tasty! Then, would I also need their pricey Mscaler to boot?

The only other DAC I would like to try is a W4S 10th anniversary DAC. I had one of the less expensive DACs with Martin Logans before and it sounded pretty darn good. 

Anyways, thank you for your continued help and support.

By the way how’s the sound with your new speaker cables?

Everything is subjective! Lol

@navyachts I have EERO mesh network and connect with Purist from the access point straight into the streamer  

just get one purist from switch to streamer. And between router and switch use linkup cable which is excellent. You’re gonna be all set.
Link to linkup on amazon

https://a.co/d/e7RG0A5

@audio_is_subjective busy first day on the job, you'll go far with that handle of your here...LOL

Welcome!

@navyachts Thank you 🙂

@audio_is_subjective great handle! I will bone up on this, thanks.

Nothing wrong with the netgear switch.  It is all subjective, cable, switch, set-up. 

@audphile1 I am working on upgrading my cables and I wanted to ask you about your network connections. You speak highly of your Purist 7 CAT cable, which is pretty pricey, so I was wondering how you connect it to your music server.

Ideally it would be nice to go straight from the modem to the music server but then you’d have no other connections to hook up ethernet cables to.

Right now I’m going: modem>switch>router>music server. If you throw in the FMCs add another cable. But I was trying to mimic your set-up by eliminating the FMCs. That would be 3 ethernet cables at over $1,000. I could cut it to 2 cables though buy just going: modem>switch>music server which would cut me down to 2 Purist 7 cables.

I am only running a Netgear switch (modem & router too), would I then need to upgrade the switch to that of a higher quality to match the quality of the Purists cables?

Any advice on this would be much appreciated, thank you!

@kennyc ok, let me check it out, thanks 

After seeing up to thick garden hose PCs, I was a bit shocked to see the flexible Puritan cable

Maybe consider the Audience ForteF3 which is similar in price to the Shunyata Venom.

@soix thanks for the lead on the CPT units, I will check out that link! 

Some also mentioned Shunayata, they have some reasonably price PCs as well. Talk about buying locally, they are just a couple of hours down the road from me, although I don't think they sell direct.

On power conditioners, I’ve been intrigued by balanced power conditioners and was impressed with what I read about Core Power Technologies products prior to them being bought by Underwood Hifi. Their Equi=Core 1800 Mk3 sells for $1799 and comes with a $400 upgraded power cord. I don’t know how it compares to the Niagara, which I’ve also read great things about, but there are reviews of the 1800 out there that might be worth a read. Anyway, just thought this might give you another interesting option to consider FWIW…

https://www.underwoodhifi.com/products/equicore

Looking forward to your thoughts on the AZs BTW. 🤞🤞🤞

@bigkidz I have purchased the Audio Zen Satori's as recommended by @soix @audphile1 ​​@jetter. They just arrived yesterday so I hope to give them a test drive later today. Then onto the power cable dilemma!

I'll need a cord for my music server, DAC and pre-amp. The power amp will be the tough one though, as the Furutech outlet is dead center behind the p. amp and I'd like to get the amp as close to the wall as possible. Hence my query on the 90-degree male end for a DIY application. I still need to contact VH Audio about this.

Oh ya, and then there's the power conditioner. I found this one on USAM:

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650065988-audioquest-niagara-3000-power-conditioner/?utm_content=buttonlink&utm_campaign=reply-ad&utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email

I cannot give you the secret but Mogami wire is used in the majority of speaker cables. The differences are in the design. Twisted wire, straight wire double insulation, shielding, etc. Use a tech flex on the other cover that reduces the electronic effect. It costs a few pennies more than the standard tech flex.  Same goes for making your own power cables.

Happy Listening.

@audphile1 will do, thanks!

If you’re going to get the furutech just confirm with Chris at VH Audio that the angle IEC connector can handle fps55 cable. It’s pretty thick. 

@audphile1 @soix thanks. Next, I’ll start working on those power cables!

@navyachts congrats! 

Congrats!  Let us know how they work out if you could.  I’d give them a couple days to settle into your system before making serious assessments.

@soix thanks, I saw those, and those are the ones I purchased.

@bigkidz I checked on eBay but the guy who had the six footer only seem to have one, unless I misunderstood. I purchased the ones on AG. Thanks

Search eBay for one  buy a good cheap one and be happy

now if I could just find a 6 foot set!

Here ya go…

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisb4fbe-acoustic-zen-satori-6-feet-spaker-cables-speaker
 

@navyachts

Sounds like you have a great plan, enjoy.  

@jetter I think I’m going to give the Satori’s  shot

At that time I had Triangle antals.  Just wasn't great synergy in that system.  

@audphile1 now if I could just find a 6 foot set!

AZ Hologram

AZ Satori 8ft $375

Hologram will be slightly livelier than the Satori. Probably better fit with MLs

@navyachts

Years ago I had a pair of AZ Hologram speaker cables.  Unlike the many who like them, after giving them significant time for break in they were definitely not for me, and I let them go.

Spoke with the owner of the company, Robert Lee, you could not ask for a more pleasant individual.

@jetter Thanks, I already saw this and have communicated with the seller at ASAM. I really only need a 6-foot pair and the seller suggested that they are quite thick and it won’t be so easy to loom/hide the additional length, so I think I’m going to have to pass on them. UGH!

@navyachts 

In case your offer is not accepted, there is an 8 ft pair on USAudiomart with an asking price of $375 and a 10 ft pair for $550.  

I noted that the current MSRP for an 8 ft pair of Satori II is $1,050.  

No idea what it was for the original Satori.

@audphile1 awesome, thank you!

@soix +1

@navyachts Furutech FP-s55n for a power cable

https://www.vhaudio.com/wire.html

Look at the furutech angle plugs as well:

https://www.vhaudio.com/connectors-ac.html

Look at FI-12L connector for the IEC side. And for the AC end I’d go with FI-50 (non ncf is fine).

I’m a big +2 on the Satoris and hope they find their way to your system. 🤞🤞🤞  Please keep us posted if you could. 

@zlone the moderators blocked the other listing that you sent me on the AG site,

Could I to send it to navyachts at h o t m a i l 

dot com

Thanks!

@audphile1 sure, I can make some cables. Which one would you suggest?

https://www.furutech.com/products/bulk-cables/power-cables-bulk-cables/