Yes, but some are more unfortunate than others. |
Isn't it always unfortunate when someone dies? |
I was fortunate enough to see him play live one time. He opened for the Dead during one of their shows in the early 2000's. Took my oldest with me to that show. We had a real good time. |
It is bitter sweet to hear of Robert Hunter’s passing. He may have been the most under appreciated lyricists in rock music, of coarse that was not the case with us Dead Heads.
I remember when a friend turned me on to his solo acoustic album Jack O’ Roses. His voice is an acquired taste but he really had a unique way of presenting his songs in their entirety, Jerry was know for being a brutal editor of his lyrics, and this album showcases that.
He opens the album with a wonderful reading of Box of Rain. If you are a fan of Stagger Lee he introduces you to an expanded version here but the pinnacle moments of the album are the entire Terrapin Station Suite, it includes three additions Ivory Wheels/Rosewood Track and Jack Jack O’ Roses which added even more depth to this wonderful and tragic love story.
Granted this album is for the most devoted fans and many people did not like his solo work. Another excellent musical partner with Hunter was David Freiberg, who was and still is with Jefferson Starship.
One of Hunter’s greatest song he every written was on a now obscure Paul Kantner/ Grace Slick/David Freiberg solo record called " Baron Von Toll Booth and the Chrome Nun.: This is a wonderful record and has always been prized in my collection, It is basically a Bay Area jam collective featuring many great musicians and songs.It is sort of the Haight’s last great effort after they all left the city.
I once met Grace Slick and asked he about this beloved record and sadly she could not remember a thing because as she told me " I was drunk the entire time"...oh well.
The amazing and powerful song that I am referring to is called " Harp Tree Lament." David sings it and had much more vocal range than anyone in the Dead and Kantner, Slick and others provide wonderful harmonies.
This is the epitome of classic Hunter song, one reaching back in time and conjuring up mystical metaphors and unknown quests for peace and redemption.
Harp Tree Lament
What would it gain me If I was to go? Like Jacob of old To the well of the world To wax halls where candles Burn on through the day To light you a path So you’d never lose your way
I was down in the valley Where the shadows are long The birds in the harp tree Were singing this song
There is time to deliver Time to receive All that you’re lacking Of whatever you need
Turn around, by the by You’ll still see the sea As it was in the dawning As it always will be
Raise up your bottles And drink down the blood You planted the vine here In spite of the flood
Turn an ear to the harp tree An eye to the wall The songs in the singing Or nowhere at all No where to come from No place to retire No shelter nowhere Except in the fire
The birds in the harp tree Can finish their song Then rest in its branches Which is where they belong
But where can a man go That’s sweet to his soul When his time is not ready But he’s still turning old
Here’s a dream for the piper And a tune for his lady Outside the thin wall The waves are still raging
Here’s one for the harp tree And one for his song One for the morning When the night was too long
Here’s one for the candle That lights you to bed And one for the sword That hangs over your head
I was lucky to see Hunter on his last East Coast tour back in 2013 in this little place in Stafford Springs, CT. Hunter had attended UCONN, so it was an extra special sort of homecoming. He was in great spirits and delivered an stellar performance, 24 songs played! He even walked through the crowd outside the venue to his car after the show... beaming of coarse.
We will always be grateful Robert.
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And I like the Band. I have all their albums on vinyl |
So The Band, without Dylan, would have been playing between periods of a junior hockey league in Canada |
Just to continue my rant. If you you don't like the GDs harmonies, don't listen to them. Not a big deal. You want good harmonies listen to Up Up With People. Where would the Dead be without RH? Where would Hendrix be without Dylan? Where would Clapton be with (pick an artist)? Both great in their own right. But... The Band ? Again where would they be without Dylan? And Dylan has such a great singing voice. I'm sure he would have stolen American Idol
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Wow, an artist died and we argue about him. Every artist has their advocates and their detractors. I enjoyed him solo and especially with the work he did with Jerry and The Dead. I feel the OP was just paying his respects. If you disagree, it would be appropriate to keep it to yourself or start a new post yourself. If you feel the need to find particular faults with the deceased, you probably shouldn't go to a funeral |
Good to read these (mostly) gracious words about Robert Hunter. His words and the Dead’s music are woven into the fabric of many lives.
Reach out your hand if your cup be empty If your cup is full may it be again Let it be known there is a fountain That was not made by the hands of men
Let there be songs to fill the air |
Take Robert Hunter's lyrics out of the Grateful Dead's success story and it would be very interesting to see how things would have turned out.
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Try American Beauty. Sweet harmony.
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Anyway, for anyone wanting some more Robert Hunter lyrics, they are available on the Jim Lauderdale album. A chance for Dead fans, who may not be aware of Jim, to acquaint themselves with him. He comes from Bluegrass, a music Jerry loved (I bought the Old & In The Way album when it was originally released, admittedly more for the playing of David Grisman than that of Jerry---Garcia was okay at it, not great) .I take Robert and Jim each wanting to collaborate with the other as a sign that they both respect one another artistically. Good enough for me! To see some interaction between The Dead and The Band (hey, it wasn’t I who brought them into the conversation ;-), as well as Janis Joplin and others, watch the Festival Express documentary. Just for the record: I don’t "tout the singing voice is everything" (I like Johnny Cash and Dylan ;-), UNLESS we are talking about harmonies. I like mine sweet, not sour. While I’m at it, I’ll also admit I consider The Band far superior to The Dead (and just about all other R & R bands) in terms of ensemble musicianship. But that’s not The Dead’s forte, just as 30-minute long "songs" are not The Band’s. Different horses, different courses. But all this has nothing to do with Robert Hunter, so back to giving him his due. |
Such a long long time to be gone And a short time to be there
Fare Thee Well 😢 |
If he would have only written "Attics of my Life"....it would have been enough.
" In the attics of my life Full of cloudy dreams; unreal Full of tastes no tongue can know And lights no eye can see When there was no ear to hear You sang to me I have spent my life Seeking all that’s still unsung Bent my ear to hear the tune And closed my eyes to see When there were no strings to play You played to meIn the book of love’s own dreams Where all the print is blood Where all the pages are my days And all my lights grow oldWhen I had no wings to fly You flew to me You flew to meIn the secret space of dreams Where I dreaming lay amazed When the secrets all are told And the petals all unfold When there was no dream of mine You dreamed of me
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The Dead versus The Band is an interesting topic for a different thread. |
Dead fans are defensive because insults, direct or implied, just mean that they’re not seeing the whole picture and don’t get it. They were to prolific on every front for any nit-pic to stand. Depth and soul doesn’t come from having an “America Idol” voice.
bdp24, you are a rude a** for your posts in this memorial thread for the passing of Robert Hunter and are in bad taste. you’ve touted this “the singing voice is everything, therefore the Dead are inferior to the Band” BS before (at lest I’m pretty sure that was you). This is the wrong thread bro. Take your opinion elsewhere.
And this thought that they were trying to copy The Band is hogwash. Half of those song were written before the Band released that album or anyone knew what was coming. The Dead were on their own trip on Mickey’s ranch and working some of that stuff up simultaneously.
Fare Thee Well to one of the top lyricists in the world...whom to many will never be match.
The Dead will never die.
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I apologize if I misinterpreted what you said.
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Wait, you guys think that was a knock on some other songwriters and singers? While Bob & Jerry can’t/couldn’t sing very well (everyone agrees about that, right?), they did write some good tunes. Dead fans are SO defensive! I’ve played "Friend Of The Devil" in a band---love it. And their early psychedelic albums (2nd and 3rd) are my favorites in the genre. I saw The Dead live for the first time in '67 (I loved their debut album), with Pig Pen singing, of course. They were then still kind of a garage band, and I mean that as a compliment. When they, like everyone else, tried to duplicate The Band's brown album (with Workingman's Dead), their limitations became glaringly obvious. Play them improvised jams fellers, leave the singing to others. |
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@bdp24, sad little person you are, doubt you have the capacity to learn, but you should try.
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For anyone wanting to hear some Robert Hunter lyrics put to good tunes and sung by a good singer, RH collaborated with Jim Lauderdale on the 2004 album Headed For The Hills. Not as good as some of Lauderdale's other albums, but good enough. |
He was certainly the "silent" member of (IMO) the greatest rock band of my lifetime. To see that list of songs is just incredible. Thanks Andrew. |
Had to play
"In the Dark"
Tonight.
In memorium |
As a ’active’ Deadhead in the 70’s, very sad news indeed. To me the Dead died when Jerry did, but those two together were an awesome duo. Now both gone.
Great list Andrew. |
Thank you for all your lovely words Robert Hunter. Fare Thee Well... ❤️⚡️🥀 Alabama Getaway Alligator Althea Attics of My Life Believe it or Not Bertha Bird Song Black Muddy River Black Peter Blues for Allah Box of Rain Brokedown Palace Brown Eyed Women Built to Last Candyman Casey Jones China Cat Sunflower China Doll Clementine Comes a Time Corinna Cosmic Charlie Crazy Fingers Cumberland Blues Dark Star Day Job Days Between Deal Dire Wolf Doin That Rag Dupree’s Diamond Blues Easy Answers Easy Wind The Eleven Eyes of the World Fire on the Mountain Foolish Heart Franklin’s Tower Friend of the Devil Greatest Story Ever Told Help on the Way Here Comes Sunshine He’s Gone High Time If I Had the World to Give It Must Have Been the Roses Jack Straw Lazy River Road Liberty Loose Lucy Loser Mason’s Children Might As Well Mississippi Half Step Mission in the Rain Mountains of the Moon Mr. Charlie New Speedway Boogie Playin in the Band Ramble on Rose Ripple Rosemary Row Jimmy Rubin and Cherise Samba in the Rain Scarlet Begonias Shakedown Street Ship of Fools So Many Roads Stagger Lee Standing on the Moon Stella Blue St. Stephen Sugaree Sugar Magnolia Silvio Tennessee Jed Terrapin Station They Love Each Other Til the Morning Comes To Lay Me Down Touch of Grey Truckin’ Uncle John’s Band U.S. Blues Wave to the Wind West LA Fadeaway Wharf Rat What’s Become Of The Baby Wheel When Push Comes to Shove
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Let us not forget how important this man was to probably 2 generations of music lovers. I was not turned onto music and the inner peace that it brought until I saw them play for the first time. He was just as vital as Jerry. I reflect with great joy of what he brought to me. Thank you Mr. Hunter for all that you did. Shall your kind words continue to bridge the crossroads of different ages.
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He was an important part of the Dead!
RIP Hunter
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Terry Grose on NPr played part of an interview she did with him today. What a cool guy. I think she said the whole interview was from 1988. Excellent dude |
RIP, quirky, original artist in his own right, let alone with his massive contribution to The Dead. |
The Dead without him would make for a wonderful alternate "Its a Wonderful life" story.
I saw him live solo in college a few times. He was the man who helped put the Dead on the map.
"grateful" Dead?
Sorry couldn't resist.... |
A great lyricist and soul. R.I.P. |
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