All of the patents for series surge devices are held and licensed by the same guy (Rudy Harford). Of All of the people using his patents, SurgeX is the only one to improve the design with the audio industry as a target. AND, like MickyDs you get change back with added AC line conditioning. SurgeXs' newest offering is the SA20. A stand alone 20amp home unit. |
Larry, you mention: "Primarily I'm looking for robust surge supression (beyond just MOV's) that doesn't add its own sonic influence." Have you considered installing panel mounted Series Mode (no MOV's) surge protector at your Mains panel? Try www.zerosurge.com (model PM20-120) for ~$220. I've read that surge protection is much more effective at the Mains than downstream near equipment. All power cond are system dependent, imho. Demo b4 you buy. Mike |
Tice Audio power line conditioners are quite nice, IF you can find them. |
I am happy to hear positive notes on PS Audio UO .I just bought one high current version and waiting for it's arrival. George |
I have tried several, I think about 8 or more and the best by far is the one I have now and hope to keep. The BPT 3.5 Plus. It even made my tuner tune better, honest. If money is a factor I would go with the UO, as already said from PS Audio. For the money they are great and do wonders with ground loops which not many can do. Randy |
Any experience with the PS Audio Ultimate Outlet? From what I've read most conditioners take some warmth from the system for whatever else they may add. Since the UO is stated just to condition upper end frequencies, maybe it would keep the warmth in the lower freqs? |
The Transparent Powerisolator line offers something "beyond just MOVs". They utilize an avalanche- diode design which serves the same purpose as an MOV, but the avalanche-diode is faster, about a thousand times faster, measuring in picoseconds. MOVs are measured in nanoseconds. |
I'm using a BPT 3.5 Signature to excellent effect.
It DOES NOT reduce dynamics in my system. It does provide a palpable, almost eerie depth and width to my soundstage compared with my old AC conditioning units.
AC conditioning is a very subjective topic, sometimes giving rise to well argued opinions that are in complete opposition to one another.
I suggest finding a manufacturer with a "money-back" trial period and putting some units through their paces. In this case especially, YMMV. |
Right on John, Original Hydra, period !! |
Shunyata Hydra, period. Enjoy the music.
John |
Hopefully a line condition will create an environment with no sound signature as far as power goes. Then them music can come through.
"Conditioners" are not the best way to go. The units that provide clean balanced power are better. Exact Power Blue Circle Music Rings PS Audio Power Plants And Others..
If conditioning is all you can afford, a $110 Blue Circle Noisehound will condition the power better than most "conditioners". |
Primarily I'm looking for robust surge supression (beyond just MOV's) that doesn't add its own sonic influence. Filtering would also be nice, but I'm using a Porter ported dedicated circuit that doesn't sound bad by itself. |
Ideally yes, but after getting a dramatic sound shift even from a surge protector, I'm guessing each component brings its own baggage to the party to some extent. I'll look in to the Running Spring gear. |
You don't need a "Rich sound line conditioner," you need a line conditioner that will clean up your AC and allow the sound of your all Cary system to come through. Take a look at the Running Spring Audio units. |