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OP,
Setting the Classic on a boltz rack is not recommended. |
Perhaps the OP is too busy listening to files/streaming?
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@roblanger
Here we are 5 years later.....
What happened with the Classic Sig vs the RP10?
I am curious because I did a quick comparison recently of the VPI Prime 21 to my Rega RP6. It seemed like a very close match and I chose to upgrade to the RP10. I am loving it the RP10 both aesthetically and sonically.
The brute/muscle car design of the VPI appealed to me in 2D but in 3D it was much less appealing.
I understand have always been one to associate weight with quality but after watching some videos of a Rega tour and Mr. Gandy....and listening to his products....you kind of have to concede that as a requirement.
Anywho....if you are still out there, let us know what happened and where you are today.
I am going to predict you have a Planar 10 : )
Dana |
Rega to a VPI is more of a change of taste rather than an upgrade. Check out funk firm turntables. I have heard them in action, they sound outstanding! They have the speed and agility of the Rega and soundstage lushness + bass of VPI. They look simple but they deliver at a very different level. |
Bpoletti - I already have the RP10 and got it at a time when I didn't feel like "tweaking" so I chose it over the VPI. Pricing on the Classic Sig is a bit more attractive now, so I'm making the jump. It may just turn out that the VPI trounces all over the Rega, but ...maybe not. No point in throwing the baby out with the bathwater just yet!
I'll also be putting my Thorens 124/SME 3009 through a rebuild this year, so ultimately there will be a 3rd option. |
Rob - Why even consider the Rega? It just doesn't seem like a logical choice. Have you thought about getting a Classic Sig and adding a second arm / cart combo? That would give you variation. Maybe use a mono cart on the second arm. |
Bpoletti, I agree the Prime and a Signature would be another good choice but the OP is interested in having a new flavor not similar flavors:) |
I had considered taking the route of running a Prime along with my RP10/Apheta 2, but it looks like it'll be the Classic Sig instead. Proper support for both will be important. The RP10 will live on a spiked Lack table until I can get my Target shelf mounted. The VPI will sit on top of a steel Boltz rack.
Swapping the Apheta 2 cart between the turntables will be a fair way to make a comparison. Also considering the ART-9, a Dynavector XX2mkii or an Ortofon offering. I'm running a Zesto Andros phono stage and basically an all-tube rig.
I'm hoping that the performance of the 2 TT's will be comparable, but sonically different enough to warrant keeping both. |
Gshep - Wouldn't a better option for a second table would be a VPI Prime? Is there ANY Rega that could better a Prime? Seriously? |
If you have the rack space, time, and the $$$, why not have both? I have a Classic Sig with the steel arm and a Rega RP6 but would like to replace it with a RP8/10. The Sig is no slouch and sounds fantastic with even sub $1k carts. Never heard the upper Regas but am speculatively confident the Classic Sig will hold its own sharing your listening room. |
TableJock...one can see the accuracy of any turntable by downloading an app called PlatterSpeed. It was invented by Dr. Feickert which is a recognized high power name in audio. You download the app from the app store which is free, play a 3150 hz tone on your turntable (most test records have this...or buy the Audioanalogue one...and it will give you the speed like the Phoenix. I agree with the Counterintuitive...makes setup much easier, and do set up a VPI arm with the Fozgometer...also to be used with the Audioanalogue test record. |
TJ: Thanks for the ART9 suggestion. That cart is definitely now on my radar. Have had luck in the past with the AT 155LC MM cart that was recommended to me by Raul.
Just ordered the Classic Sig. Easy to make an expensive mistake with MC carts so I'm still doing my research. Happy to hear about any more recommendations so keep 'em coming! |
I have a VPI Classic. Having played/modded a Rega P5 with good results,I'm sure the 10 is in another league.
After checking out what the Classic Sig has to offer, IMO the VPI would be my choice without even hearing it.
Since you are considering carts under 2.5k, I would include the Lyra Delos and Kiseki Blue. Another that seems to be under the radar is the Audio Technica ART9 and 7 for value at 1k. I am using the ART 9. The thread here on Agon represents the small cult following.
Unlike the Rega, the VPI can rise above its already great performance with dead accurate speed contol(SDS/Phoenix) options and others to take it to another level. Id be interested in seeing an RP10 with a Phoenix tach to see the speed accuracy. Also the VPI has arm adjustment parameters to take advantage of a super cart which Rega arguably doesn't.
Get a Soundsmith Counterintuitive to save yourself grief when setting up the cart for the VPI.
I'm aware the Rega is an entirely different table design compared to the VPI, but at this price point, at least It feels like(weight) you're getting something for your money!
I will be following this thread to read your thoughts on preference.
Happy Listening! |
Thanks, Stingreen!
Definitely looking at going with the 3D arm on the Classic Sig.
Having used a Rondo Bronze in the past on a Technoarm, I'm fairly comfy going with another Ortofon. Have you had good results on the VPI with other carts? |
VPI could use a better cartridge. ...maybe a Black or Windfield or better. ...also check out the Prime...better arm and comparable turntable. |
