>>08-19-09: Pauly
Sonic, this is one of the few times (or the first?) I agree with Mr. T.<<
Agreeing with Homer Simpson is a sure way to lose credibiity with the readership. |
Unlike a good transistor amp, the notes throughout the frequency spectrum will decay naturally as a tube amp has a much lower sound floor than a comparable transistor amp. Pauly, please explain the term "sound floor." It's one I'm not familiar with. |
Sonic, this is one of the few times (or the first?) I agree with Mr. T.
'Tube sound' means different things to different people. The vast majority refer to 'tube sound' as the coloration caused by a tube amp - speaker mismatch, hence the comments of 'tubby or loose bass', 'attenuated highs' etc. etc. associated with tube amps.
A good tube amplifier mated with the correct speaker will produce very solid bass and extended highs. Unlike a good transistor amp, the notes throughout the frequency spectrum will decay naturally as a tube amp has a much lower sound floor than a comparable transistor amp. Transistor amps tend to chop off the decaying notes.
Either way, no transistor amp can ever have tube sound.
Regards
Paul |
Mrtennis, I could have guessed your post without seeing your username. As usual, complicated and unclear. Why don't you just answer the question and keep it simple for once ? |
Another vote for the Electrocompaniet, I owned this one. Be carefull however with some faulty volume pots on certain units.
Naim ? This is as far from a ''tube sound'' as you can get in my book. |
Second ELECTROCOMPANIET. Had a couple of their Intergrated amp and very tube like. |
Companies like Plinius, Classe, Yba, Naim, and Pass have a reputation for being "Tube Like" but it is better rephrased, "some similarities with tubes sound". In the end it is still SS. |
how different is the sound of a tube integrated from a "tube-like" ss integrated ?
if they sound different how reliable is the designation "tube-like", when applied to a ss integrated amp ?
for years i have searched for a "tube-like" ss amp. while i have not auditioned evrything, those ss amps i have auditioned do not sound "tube-like" at all.
there are many attributes of tube amps. the term "tube-like" should be defined to include attributes of tube amps. then again, there is the modern tube sound and the classic tube sound. it is useful to be more precise in the use of the term "tube-like" . |
My vote goes to the Audio Analogue Puccini. |
I second Bnrlaw's recommendation of the ECI-3. Like the Electrocompaniet separates I've owned, it produces the most tubelike sound I've heard from an SS, and is easily the best partner I've found for my Merlin TSMs. |
Portal Panache (designed by Nelson Pass). My 400xi Krell, Naim, MF...alot of great choices. Choose from local sources so you can demo them at home. |
You may be able to find a used Pass Labs Aleph 3 for $800. The Aleph 3 is one of the the most tube like sounding solid state amplifiers ever. |
I second the Portal Panache, has alot of that Pass sound (tube like SS) |
Rega Mira! Great Value, Bullet Proof & Reliable. Will drive a surprisingly wide range of speakers given it's modest power rating. Natural, musical, yet quick.
The best of both worlds at an awesome price point. |
look into a hybrid amp which is tube preamp with a ss amp section. i have owned a few and right now own the 1301 and 1701 jolida hybrid integrated amps. they are both built like a tank and sound wonderful. i upgraded the tubes in the 1701 this past weekend with very good results. These amps are used in my den and rec room. big sound for their size and power ratings. |
|
NAD 3020a, cross between el34 and a 6L6 amp.Its a smoothy
Audio aero hybrid prima,older one. I had it, its good.
Good luck on your hunt! |
|
Electrocompaniet ECI-3 on the used market |
Any Plinius Integrated (used) to be in your price range. |
|
