I use 2 different techniques:
1)Change the input selector in my preamp
2)Use the mute switch on my phono preamp
It keeps the switches in good operating order.
I also have a Technics tt...which stops the platter in an instant with a brake (torque that can be adjusted). Never gave it much thought until this post. Also powering the tt on/off out of sequence won't create a audible pop.
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When I turn off my Sugden a21se integrated, I get the faintest of so called speaker pop, that is with all sources already turned off. I doubt very much it is causing any issues whatsoever. It sounds great otherwise.
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The OP has an integrated amp. You can’t shut off the amp or preamp separately. All he has to do is switch to an other source when he turns the turntable on and off. There is no reason to turn off his Rogue every time he changes a record! |
Pop on turn off sounds more like a back EMF problem, than a static problem. |
as far as what to touch for grounding, something organic is best. i touch a wood shelf on my rack. Shouldn’t one touch something metal that’s connected to the ground to dissipate static electricity, but wood is a poor conductor- am I missing something? |
Yes, check or replace capacitor across TT on/off switch. And you are right; Amps on last and off first. Ah or maybe a flyback diode if it is back EMF? We have always done:
AMPS: on first, off last. t startup I do: - Preamp on first, with its mute button in from when I urned it off.
- Then amplifier on.
- he preamp mute disabled.
At shut down: - Preamp mute
- Amplifier off
- Preamp off
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Yes, check or replace capacitor across TT on/off switch. And you are right; Amps on last and off first.
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@ millercarbon has told you what to do. Just switch to another source. No reason to shut anything off! I had the same problem and it was a bad capacitor on the on and off switch on my turntable! |
@arcticdeth - Rogue's user manual says the opposite for Power On. 1) Turn on all sources, 2) power up Sphinx, 3) select listening source and play. Then, they state the reverse for Power Down. Your sequence for me led to the pop when turning off the TT.
@holmz - I still hear the pop when I turn the volume knob all the way down - though I didn't hit use the MUTE button on the remote control. |
We have always done:
AMPS: on first, off last. |
Does it still pop when the volume is turned down?
There is a mute button on my preamp, and also one on my phono stage.
So I have choices. |
Great, this is super helpful - grounding, input selector trick, and keep the platter spinning. Thanks all. |
you should develop a consistent sequence for system power up and turn off. including grounding your self prior to touching anything to drain any static charge you may carry.
and that should always be turning "on" , first touching something, then from source toward the amp.
then your turn off sequence should be ’grounding’ then amp to source.
this sequence will eliminate turn on or turn off pops.
and any time you mess with vinyl, you ground yourself EVERY time you are going to touch something. very quickly you will develop muscle memory and you won’t even think about it.
now getting to your specific situation; you should first ground yourself, then ’mute’ the phono, then touch the tonearm. if you can ’mute’ with your remote, then ’mute’ on your remote first then, then ground, then touch the tonearm. if you press mute on the phono pre chassis first, prior to grounding yourself, that can be a big problem and can fry stuff.
note; when you ’mute’ you do mostly insulate your speakers from any pop. but then grounding before you touch anything is even more safe.
as far as what to touch for grounding, something organic is best. i touch a wood shelf on my rack. every......single....time. |
Right, there is no need to stop the platter. In fact it is much better on the motor to just let it run.
But if you are going to turn it off then the way to avoid the pop is to change your input selector to something else. That is what I do in order to avoid cleaning stylus noise, zero-stat noise, demagnetizer noise, etc. |
If you don't have a record clamp just pull the disc off of the spinning platter. Practice makes perfect. |
