Non-violent, non-misogynistic hip hop for MC
Hi Chuck,
I noticed in the “female representation” thread over there that you brought up (again) there is no such thing g as hip hop without misogyny and violence. This not meant to start a fight, but just think people shouldn’t judge absolutely, even when based on their own experience, because there is always more to learn. I respect your approach to many things on this forum, so I thought I’d share some of MY experience with the genre. Here are a small handful off the top of my head:
Lyrics to the last one, by KRS One...
There were two patients laying in the hospital
They shared the same room, both fighting health obstacles
The first patient had his bed by the window
He could see outside and feel how the wind blow
The second patient, his bed was by the wall
No window, he couldn't see nothing at all
So in summary there was no sun to see
He was laying in the dark looking for recovery
He could see the other patients looking outside
And jealousy took over his pride, he couldn't hide
He said to the patient by the window
"Hey! Tell me what you see outside there today"
The patient by the window started saying
"I see people walking, talking, I see children playing"
"Cars going by with the booming systems"
But the patient by the wall could only lay and listen
Bedridden, he couldn't see it for himself
But the descriptions he was given was improving his health
Everyday the patient by the window would say what he saw
And everyday the patient by the wall wanted more
But what he wanted even more instead
Was to be in the patient by the window's bed
He wanted the same bed that the patient had
If he could just exchange beds it would make him glad
So one day the patient by the window was gone
And the patient by the wall knew something was wrong
But he still asked the nurse if he could be first
To get the bed by the window, and what's worse
He did get the bed by the window
But the shock instead was a wall full of brick stone
No cars, no people, no scenery
No light, no flowers, no greenery at all
It was like just a brick wall facing the window
He said to the nurse "I was tricked, yo"
The nurse said "Tricked? You'll be fine"
But a view of a brick wall he didn't have in mind
And what really blew his mind
Is when the nurse said, "Cheer up
The previous patient, he was blind"
He realized right at that time
You create your reality, the world is mind
BROKEN RECORD, already... Who cares? An army of ONE, that acts like it’s the size of CHINA! Worry about those lyrics. MR. ONE Besides if I, MC and a bunch of folks were in the same room, including YOU, OP, we’d be dancing anyways... You folks are far to serious.. I had 16 heart attacks last year... I'm kinda jealous, ol MC can get that much rental space FREE inside so many folks HEADS.. Pretty cool trick.. Should teach classes. Maybe I'll pay better attention.. LOL Easy does it... :-) |
Oh this takes no space in my head, it took all of 2 minutes of copy/paste. Simply made a separate thread because the previous ones were deleted, the only replies to the challenge were some French song and Bob Dylan (which is a micro-aggression in itself) and I didn’t want cross pollute the streams by replying about this in the sexism thread. About those particular lyrics being unoriginal; sure maybe, not debating derivatives or appropriation here, that’s a different can of worms. Anyway, no negative intentions here, and not meant offend anyone’s taste – I posted out of positivity for artists and sharing their creations that were being thrown out with the bath water. You can smear it if you like, just don’t think it’s fair (and not even in sync with the general wealth of knowledge that MC offers) to wholly dismiss a genre, whether it’s a preference or not. And finally, you’re all right... redirecting time to audio discussions, something we agree on. I personally come here for knowledge and learn a lot from MC and you all, my mind to many things that come from YOUR experience with audio, so if I can contribute something that I have some knowledge about, I’m happy to! |
OMG you are right! Rap isn't racist, misogynistic profane drug and gangsta glorifying, it is Plato's Allegory of the Cave! Rap is philosophy! Probably the stuff about b-----s and h-'s and crack and n----s popping a cap in a cops --- is just too deeply intellectual and beyond my comprehension. I have so been missing out. Thank you so much for enlightening me. |
Not usually interested in it, but like these... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM4kqL13jGM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYxAiK6VnXw Forever and ever??! |
I must say that I have a certain amount of pride for opening up this Rap can of worms. The first thread, “Why Rap?” that was removed as were the two that followed, was intended to open up on inquiry into what Rap is interesting from a musical perspective. I am still quite new to the world of HipHop but have discovered several LPs that I consider masterpieces. Like anything, these works have positive and negative aspects. In these cases, the positive far outweighs the negative. Surely, the most negative in the world of HipHop are the offensive intentions. However, I have come to understand that these often offensive parts are central to HipHip culture using offensive words as a part of the jargon. And the frequent negative intentions reflect an expression of the realities of the HipHop world. This realization comes with the understanding that HipHop is the culture that gives birth to Rap words. And there is no question that the few Rap LPs that I now own are fascinating and fun. |