Mitigating the Bubble
Today after many years of trials and tribulations I have mitigated a sonic aberration a horizontal phase anomaly in my center stage. While the center image was always stable and outlined it seemed narrow and bubble like and I would need to shift my body angle to really lock in the image. This was obvious on many CDs and LPs .
I have many man made fixes that helped the situation but never a total cure. Some of these are now permanent fixtures on the ceiling in 2 different locations. I made my own acoustic panels filled with long hair sheep's wool and 3 Argent Room Lenses. I have laminar flow lenses that focus and stabilize the image across the front stage. I have built and treated an acoustic fan that overcomes the boundaries with in my room by reducing interference. I have loaded my speaker cabinets 3 times with new drivers and now an outboard crossover. This was after my Essence 30s speakers and my Dunlavy SC4s. ..All my components are hard mounted and direct coupled to the floor...on rock solid racks and speaker stands, custom mono bloc amps each on their own stand. All of these devices and angles and positions made the image wider and more focused but I still had that little bubble and shift before me. Always less annoying with each new device and tweak.
So, your probably saying to yourself hurry up and get to the end. The end finally arrived today after having applied a contact enhancer 7 days ago to just 6 RCA ends out of many connections in my system. Today with a friend who has been here a hundred times sitting in the Chair playing the same music as usual he said there was a wider sweet spot. I despise that term but he said it and not me.What we both heard was a super stable center image that was a few feet wide and not just one. The bubble was gone. The head in the vise was gone. Off came the straight jacket and helmet. What I have now in this space intime is a glorious fully extended soundstage with all the meat on the bones and the features of talking heads on a real live performance stage.
I have probably used eight different contact enhancers over five decades but this one blows my mind. This product Nano Flo is the ultimate in transparency.
Tom
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I don’t have a horse in this race nor does @jerryg123 but the smugness on display by @nano-flo and his ethical challenges merits outrage from the Audiogon community. His handlers deserve some ire as well although they are quietly in the background. Chris hasn’t built one single cable, he doesn’t have the skill. So, who has? Who tweaked him by suggesting hey, instead of bottling your worthless Vaseline gel, lets tie it to a product for the gullable (sorry @glory no intent to denigrate) and fleece them out of some real cash. Chris being who he seemingly is thought PAYDAY! If he had some brains and desire to keep his charade perpetual, he wouldn’t have spent any of the $$$ and anticipated this kind of circustance and promptly refunded glory’s money. That keeps the next set of potential victims in line for their chance at mystical Vaseline enlightenment.
I guarantee that the actual builder of the latest power cable is sitting quietly somewhere eating Cheetos (pun intended) anxiously watching this saga unfold. Each minute that passes without Chris refunding Glory is another second toward his house of cards collapsing. Once again, why aren’t ANY of the Nano-fanboys chiming in. I could at least respect them if they said something like “I have the Nano-Flo in a bottle, it works for me but Chris should do the right thing”. Same goes for Stero Times…where is their character??? |
@simao I agree on the College of DuPage. With Northwestern, Purdue, Notre Dame, U of I, UIC all in his backyard..... |
Interesting. I have no horse in this race, but part of me thinks back to the two scientists who supposedly achieved cold fusion back in the late 1980’s -- and who were quickly debunked and disgraced (and silenced as well). I've always wondered if they were just too far ahead of their time to be accepted by the powers-that-be. Still, what struck me from the press releases was the College of DePage - a statewide Illinois community college system ranked firmly in the anonymous middle of national and state-wide rankings. I know, great things can be found in unremarkable places, but this coupled with the dubious writing of the releases does not lend itself well to Enterprise’s ethos. |
I can only imagine the reaction from real scientists, physicists and engineers. LOL.
@nano-flo are you up yet processing refunds or are you channeling the late John McAfee for guidance? |
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Among the numerous reputable international firms you mention, one jumps out. Timken is the worlwide leader in precision bearings. How on earth do they stay in business without integrating Nano-Flo? LOL.
Chris, the house is on fire…don’t you think you should refund @glory and return to more fertile pastures like the drag strip or truck stop lube operations? |
Strange how silent the Nano-Flo fanboys are being. I’m willing to suspend disbelief and posit that the Vaseline goop achieves their individual sonic goals but I can’t believe how they stand by and remain quiet while a product they championed is an ethical trap for any potential customer. Absolute silence. How unfortunate. Situational character and ethics on full display here and yet, the glowing infomercial remains up on Stereo Times. File that one away too folks.
At least Stereo Times could add a footnote that speaks to…. “Do not count on the money back guarantee that might seem to make this a risk free proposition. You are counting on the ethics of the vendor which can be notoriously unreliable with companies that are either unwilling to honor their word or worse, are financially not viable from the start. As a data point, we didn’t have to pay bupkiss for the products we featured in this shameful infomercial and, in fact, we receive free products and sometimes other monetary and non-monetary consideration. Please don’t think less of us for doing so!”
Read this in the latest Absolute Sound where the author somewhat explains what may be happening in reviews.
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In addition, as I am in our OE Mobile channel, I have reached out to Nissan, Tesla, Ford, GM, Lucid, PACCAR, Volvo, DTNA and none of these companies (all in EV) have any knowledge of this company or person.
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It is clearly above everyone's heads. I contacted our design and application engineers as well as service engineers in our wind energy channel and no one, I mean no one at GE or Siemens, SKF, NSK or Timken have any knowledge of this shyster Nano-Flo Chris Arnold, his product or company. Per his press release (link) He has offered $10,000,000.00 to UPS, FedEx.... in a grant to use his products. (read here) to date no takers: The entire premise of his companies are a scam. He mus be related to Sam Bankman-Fried
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Is this practice that you recommended earlier in the thread the reason @glory can’t get his refund. Chris, is your cable a single use cable or is “driving the nano in” no longer your tried and true method?
To be quite honest, I can’t believe this community didn’t read the original drivel and claims and laugh you out of the forum. It’s now painfully obvious you were trying to behave like a fly by night fast buck carnival huckster only now there are real people being damaged by your poor business ethics on display. Maybe with the money you don’t refund you can lube a bridge or make a top fuel dragster exceed the speed of light.
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@glory may have purchased the “original” version which was literally a $5 or $10 that anyone can buy from Home Depot or True Value Hardware freeby type sealed/molded power cord with the the Nano-Vaseline juice applied at the ends. Anyway, its way above our heads this amazing technology. It takes someone like Chris, with no hifi experience and no hi end rig to develop something like this. At least I know there is a place for those who fail at selling aluminum siding or pet insurance.
Careful who you endorse @theaudiotweak and mikeg. Character matters. Chris has failed to show any thus far but the day is young. |
In the StereoTimes Review there is the following statement "NS Holographic 3D6 AC cords are said to be fully treated with Audiogon-tested NanoTube™ superconductive gel from end to end.[including the exterior nickel-plated brass contacts and outside surface of the cable insulators".
Per the reviewer’s statement would one not expect that the supposed "full" efficacy of the cable can simply be "corrected" by reapplying the gel to the brass contacts if it came off? The statement says that the contacts are not the only area of the cable to be treated. Not following the whole one time insertion/no movement, contamination, etc. narratives assuming that the entire cable is in fact treated with this gel.
BTW, is Audiogon and approved testing lab? |
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Good morning Nano Chris, I hope you woke up today and decided to honor your money back guarantee for the cables @glory purchased from and returned to you. Until glory posts that you processed his rightful refund, I and others will post each day to bring attention to your poor behavior. I’ll pose a few more questions which you will likely not answer: have there been other returns where you honored you money back guarantee?
@glory did you pay by paypal? Credit card? Have you filed a dispute? |
Chris, I certainly don’t mean to come off as if I know everything and I hope no one objective thinks that. I do know unscrupulous, flippant and unethical when I see it.
You never answer questions when posed and when you make a commitment to post objective test results, you never follow through. How is an unwitting purchaser of your innovative (cough, cough) power cord supposed to use it a second time? Does one just slather some more Vaseline on?
Seriously Chris, you are coming off at best as completely short sighted and unethical and I can sure see how some might arrive at a far worse conclusion about your character. You should refund the money as you offered the money back guarantee. Until you do, you sure do come off as …. Formerly in the business of vaseline covered off the shelf power cables priced to insult those intelligent enough to know better.
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Reading through this post, this @nano-flo shyster shipped and charged our victim for 5 cables when he only ordered 2. Being the unethical businessman that Chris is claimed it was a glitch in the system. Zero integrity and it appears to be flat out theft on the part of Chris. I will be linking this thread over on other high traffic audiophile forums.
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@arcticdeth Your post was quite musical itself. Here - i've turned it into a found poem of sorts:
"Magic Sauce" by Arcticdeth
magic sauce. snake oil reds cure all lineament, just 2 sips a day, you will be vigil and feel better than you ever have. some of this stuff is plain silly, people who open their wallets for thousands for vaseline mixed w a little food coloring applied to a wall plug. same as the 500 dollar power cord, its called hype truth, you imagine the 500 bills you dropped on a power cord will actually make trumpets circle your ears with magical ability to render you motionless, to add 2 more inches to mr. happy.
from your (80% homes) breaker box, you have 12ga wiring throughout your home, thousands of feet running upstairs, down, all over, yet a 10awg cord will suddenly transform your shotty house wiring into a magic conduit from which unicorns shoot rainbow chocolate kaka rings through your body, giving you such elation that you spent 5oo$ on a power cord, which oddly enough might give you rapture of the eardrums and make mr chub come out to play. |
@ghasley I concur and look forward to taking this message to other audiophiles about this companies unethical business practices. Best regards. |
If your goop comes off when the cable is moved, it's impossible to send it back to you in the condition it was received. Also, how was it 'contaminated'? Man, just do the right thing and refund his money as per your 30 day return policy and mitigate the damage, because cousin, you are making yourself look really bad. |
@nano-flo Why would I want to read the instructions? I haven't suffered a catastrophic brain injury, therefore, I'm not a candidate to do business with you. Your product claims are one thing...that is subjective and an arms length transaction between you and the potential victim. If everyone goes in eyes wide open, its all good. You offer money back guarantee and then don't follow through. You should be ashamed and its unlikely you will sell any more when people see this thread.
If, as you say, the end user is only allowed to plug it in once or the "magic" is gone then what happens if the end user moves their system? Or chooses to rearrange the room? Do you reapply the magic potion for free or is your cable as it is, a single use item? I'm so sorry that there are trusting audiophiles that chose to trust you...as you don't appear to keep your word.
You should refund @glory his money and at least you could then fleece the willing going forward. You and your team should be ashamed. |
please read the instructions on this new technology cable. It is a dedicated product that is to be left as and where first plugged in. This is not grandmas power cable that everyone is selling, made from copper and gold or silver playing. No caps or resistors sticking out each end. The superconductor is real but it also has requirements that you are refusing to address. if audiophiles want to ignore this discovery as snake oil or fraud, I can only ask which cable company do you represent? chris |
@glory You may stand a better chance of getting your refund if you let the others on this thread and on Audiogon bring attention to your plight. Its your money but @nano-flo may lean to the spiteful side of the bleachers so allow him to get frustrated at someone like me or @jerryg123
You bought a cable similar to a $10 Home Depot power cord, smeared with a Vaseline like substance at a four figure price from someone you didnt know. You might want to try the humble pie and hope that Chris wants this all to go radio silent again.
If anyone is reading this post AND you are considering this "product", just scroll down and if you DON'T see a post from @glory communicating that he received his money back, proceed at your own risk. In fact, proceed at your own risk either way. |
Reading between the lines, it seems the Vaseline like "goop" wears off after only a few uses? That seems rather shoddy, however, par for the Nano-Flo course it seems. Does he even need a reason to want to return them? What does money-back guarantee mean to you?
You should just refund his money and go back to hiding in the shadows, hoping that a few people here and there read up on your poor ethical practices but choose to buy anyway. Its truly a shame that all of those who have been shilling for you don’t chime in and at least convince you that its good business to NOT be the headline subject of these threads. I for one though am thankful that your greed is exceeded only by your arrogance...these threads are like a moth to flame for you and you can’t resist posting sophmore level snark. It just shows who you are.
I’m going to take a flyer and guess that your products don’t have Cardas, Shunyata, Synergistic nor Audioquest burning the midnight oil for fear of market erosion. |
This @nano-flo guy should be banished and I will make sure I tell everyone of my audiophile friends to avoid this unethical, low class, shyster. Cut from the same cloth as that High Fidelity Cable guy. |
Class. |
Gary you are officially delusional claiming the receipt of the two Holographic cables was contingent on you selling the Hemingways. Tell everyone who else’s cables you are trying to return after their 30 period. Let’s try something different here instead of claiming alien abduction, tell me how many fingers I’m holding up. |
Used and contaminated and NOT in the condition received? I wiped the goop off he claimed 🙄 why would I do that, Chris? The last two I knew not to do that. who’s they? The platform messages says 30 day refund and they were returned within 10 days. They instructed me? Who Aliens? Seems like you just made up your own rules. I can sell when I get them back?. Why can’t you sell them used with your reapplied goop at $1.5K vs now $4K ?
honor the Ad and return the $$$. I gave you $4.5K for the 3. What a way to treat a future buyer of your products. I told you I would need to sell the Hemingway cables to finance The other two and you said you had a 30 day return policy so….
why did you write in this thread how’s my sale of my Hemingway cables in a smart A$$ way? How did you know they were for sale? Because the last two you sent were conditional on selling them and I told you that. Refund option has been executed now live up to your end of the bargain.
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Gary purchased off a platform that has rules to protect everyone. He flatly refused my offer to refund his money on two overbought cables. After testing the first three he was blown away and said to ship the remains two. Gary requested to purchase my secret sauce off platform, and was told no. Gary makes his own rules and despite the requirement of requesting a single cable return and printing a shipping label through the platform, he just shipped two cables back used and contaminated and NOT in the condition received. I have followed all platform messages and procedures and they instructed me to return the two cables to Gary which I did, after refurbishing the male ends with secret sauce. |
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@glory I do hope you get this resolved and the Chris @nano-flo steps up and finds some character and integrity and ethics. Sad that there are people like this in this hobby that brings so much pleasure. There was another guy in Texas called High Fidelity Cables that hoodwinked a few clients. Wonder if they are trade partners. So sad and pathetic.
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@facten A few companies from Greece building some very nice products. By all appearances these cables look quite nice. But we know the ear tells the tale. |
Chris could have sent the refund yesterday and it would’ve been an almost happy ending but zero. Most threads like this disappear by the monitors but maybe because I’ve been here for 20 years, have so many posts and all positive feedback that they’re allowing us to proceed because this is a breakthrough product but unfortunately, in the hands of someone that has maybe very little integrity.
chris you can make 3 easy payments 💰💰💰 one per month. Let me know please and let’s salvage your character here on Audiogon.
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mike posted his review on WhatsBestForum as well, it got virtually no traction there. However, one member did post a link to a Greek audio cable company that apparently has some form of nanotube technology that they have employed since 2016 and have patented cables. I have no affiliation with the WBF poster nor any experience with the below company's cables; just passing the information along
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@jerryg123: I was referring to producing and selling a product like the Nanoflo (goop) to audiophiles. |
You’ll send me the cables?.
you need to honor the 30 day return policy. I would take them back but now knowing who you are you will ship me back a $25.00 cable plugged in a few times to make it look used with no goop on them. Sell them here?. I’ve the opinion we here on Audiogon are brothers in arms and I would never shoot one of my fellow piles in the head selling them a $25.00 cable with no goop on it for $1.5K. you’re broke aren’t you? No $$$ to refund me. Been doing this to long not to know what’s happening here. Make blinking payments. $1K a month. I would take a vile of goop but you would fill it with mayonnaise as you’ve lost, all integrity in my point of view |
Sell them to who? @nano-flo Who is going to buy them? You related to that guy in the Bahamas? |
