Lumin Ap on Lumin players - not so good?

I too am a Roon lifer using qobuz. 
But when i use Lumin app and initially saw my qobuz playlists on right side in all their glory i was happy.

and then i played first song from qobuz playlist within the lumin ap, sounded real good, and when it was over it skipped over into a lumin song list on the left side.  I couldnt get ap to continue to play from a selected qobuz playlist displayed in lumin ap that showed all the songs listed out.  I tried and tried but i am dumb.  It was so cruel to have it work this way.  

I understand frustrations with learning new software and hardware.  I am past the stage of wanting to endlessly tweak all the options available and much more in the mode of wanting ease of use.  

However, I disagree posting that Lumin App is a mess and worthless.  Basically it is something different than other software and just requires a bit of usage of its features to make navigating pretty simple.  I have a Lumin X1, Qobuz and Lifetime Roon and do like Roon library management, but when critically listening, I use the Lumin App.  I believe sound quality is a bit better with the Lumin App over Roon.  Roon is very convenient and easy to use, but there is a cost for it.   I have made my own playlists on the App, but also am able to easily see new music on Qobuz and music I have added to my library from Qobuz via Roon and new music to my server hard drive.   You do not have to make new playlists all the time and can modify existing saved ones if you wish.

You do not have to use the App, which is FREE, and instead use another program, but most likely you will be paying for the other software, such as Roon.   I believe Lumin to be open to suggestions and responsive to customer questions and issues.  Peter Lie of Lumin participates on a number of popular forums and is an excellent resource for all things Lumin, but also gives suggestions on audio not directly Lumin.  

Omg,  whats the point if playlists dont work.  Creating new playlists all the time.  What a MESS!  

Lumin ap is worthless. 

@jumia Roon playlists cannot be interacted with from within the Lumin app, or vice-versa. The two apps don't know about each other, and both of them save playlist data within their own app. Roon has a way to export playlist data to a file, but there's no way to import that into the Lumin app on your phone/tablet as far as I know.

You can add the contents of a Qobuz playlist into the "working set" just like you load any other music. And save any changes you make to the "working set" back to Qobuz. See "Qobuz music streaming" in the online manual for more details.

(You mention being able to see Roon playlists in the Lumin app, but I'm not aware of this being possible.)

It's one of two reasons I sent it back and bought an Auralic instead

There are 3 or 4 major things I don't like about the Lumin app but I accept it because I like the sound of the devices and it's not like the app doesn't work - I think it works fine but the ergonomics are bad.
The dumbest part about the app to me is how small the search area is and how it just seems to be shoehorned into the upper right of the screen. 

I used the Lumin app for a while and thought it was OK, but once an issue with BubbleUPnP was fixed, I was happy to return to that. It's a pretty nice OpenHome client. I can see that some audiophiles might prefer the Lumin app, and some (like me) will prefer BubbleUPnP.

However, for a smooth and pleasant experience, I'd definitely recommend Roon. To me, its extra features and user friendliness are well worth the annual charge.

Can playlists from roon, qobuz be imported to lumin?  
I see qobuz/roon playlists on right side of lumin ap but it seems fixated on going back and playing only songs listed in left column after i play a song within lumin, from right side from a qobuz list.

i have to manually and individually set up new playlists in lumin ap?

@jumia I'm guessing you've read through the Playlist section of the Lumin Online Manual. But the following might make it a little easier to understand what is being described in the manual.

First of all, you need to consider the current list of tracks shown in the playlist area to be a "working list". In other words, any changes you make to the working list are temporary and your current state of things. But changes are not saved until you ask the app to save changes. Kind of like working in a word processor that doesn't save anything until you click the save button.

Clicking the save button will save the "working list" into a playlist file with the name you specified at save time. If the name is the same as something that already exists, it will overwrite it. If the name is different then it will save the "working list" into a new playlist file, and leave the old playlist file unchanged. Kind of like opening a text document and saving changes into a new file, making a copy.

Also, the saved playlist files are saved on your phone/tablet, and not on your Lumin device. Only the current "working list" is stored on the device, so it shows up when you switch between different phones/tablets.

You can put both your local music and music from a streaming service like Tidal or Qobuz into a single Lumin playlist.

The Lumin AP is incredibly intuitive and easy to use.  Its you!

I looked at lumin  manual, i’ll chk website.  I wanna be happy with lumin ap.



Lumin manual cant be downloaded, how strange is this?  Maybe there is a way, i m not too bright.  Mom dropped me on my head when young, my guess.

If you are a Roon  user then there is no need to use the LUMIN  app. LUMIN website has a pretty big explanation on how to use the app which I found to be reasonably well thought out

Crap in.  
Crap out.  
Might as well spend up for Roon.
But then you could do that with a Ras Pi.