Klipsch speaker placement

The only model that requires corner placement is the Klipschorn, and the newer Klipschorns don't even require corner placement because the backs already have built-in "corners".

They can all be placed in a room. I do fine some of them have a bass shelve (downward shelve) and are more full with some wall boundary enforcement. 

Thanks I appreciate the info

Mine are 4ft off the wall and raised 7.5 inches. I have a sub, but very low.

I’m currently using Altec Santiago but I’m needing something more efficient.

I like my speakers pulled out into the room, so thanks for the info

I couldn’t be happier with my Heresy IV’s....unless someone offered me some la Scalas.

Looking at those Altec's, you ARE looking at La Scalas I assume.

I am a bit torn because I don’t like the idea of using a sub.

 I understand that’s a weakness of the Lascallas. So I’m thinking the Cornwall iv

may be a better fit.

I have a 28x17 room so it’s not small.

Cornwall IV will definitely have “more” bass than the LS, but it won’t have the quality of horn loaded bass. And the CW can’t compete with the midrange of the LS. 
 

LS + subs is the way to go.

@52tiger 

The Cornwalls are a great loudspeaker. The woofer crosses to the midrange horn at 700 Hz. Thus the woofer carries a large chunk of the midrange. Remember, middle C is 256 Hz. This means the bass requiring long excursions is going to Doppler distort voice which is very noticeable once you now what to listen for. This makes a subwoofer essential for the best performance. This is true of any speaker that does not have a built in sub driver. You will hear people frequently say that adding a sub "opened up the midrange" of their speakers. The added bass is nice also. 

Cornwall's yes. Subs yes. Not all situations are the same, of course, but most can benefit from a sub that works for your system. I was the original no sub guy. Now I use 3. All of the Heritage speakers benefit from a good sub. 

And yes the Heritage line are easier to place than many speakers. Mine are close to the walls and do everything well but excel at pressurizing the room.

@52tiger, I have the La Scala ll’s in my 13x24 room. Even if I'm in another part of the house you feel the base. Their just a faster speaker! So if your interested, pull the trigger. Running them with an PrimaLuna HP & KT-88’s. BTW, I have them tucked into the corners, about 6’’ off the wall.

I’ve never heard either speaker but a friend has Khorns.

base - bass

their - they're

I assume the Khorn has more bass than the Lascala? 

Yes it does, but it's not subwoofer bass. I always found it to be enough though. 

Klipsch Jubilee, frequency response (+/- 3 dB)18 Hz – 20 kHz. See below:

Mike

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/klipsch-jubilee-floorstanding-loudspeaker-each#:~:text=Featuring

@danmar123  do you get depth of soundstage with speakers so close to the wall?

@52tiger 

Yes 90% of my sub effect is in opening mids

Interesting, I’m used to my speakers being almost a 3rd I to the room like the cardas method.

@tonydennison , Yes, it's all in the tubes. See my system.

@danmar123  I have all tubes too, but I dont get depth unless I am away from the wall. Now my depth is generally 6 feet...some recording 12 feet. I will experiment tonite

@danmar123  I just pushed my speaker back and the depth went 1/2 a foot. Try pulling your speakers out so that back of the speaker is 32" from the wall and something absorbent on the wall behind the speaks.

tell us what happens.

I experimented so Id like you to try as well.

Klipsch loudspeakers should be against a wall. Subwoofers should always be against a wall or in a corner. The problem is matching the subs to the main speakers in time. That requires DSP which most do not have. 

@tonydennison 

Placing speakers against the wall doesn't not affect the 3rd dimension. Your brain can however. In humans what you see can affect what you hear. Always listen with your eyes closed. You will get a much better appreciation of how the system is performing.

@mijostyn Wrote:

The problem is matching the subs to the main speakers in time. 

I agree! See articles below:

Mike

https://www.thebroadcastbridge.com/content/entry/7125/loudspeaker-technology-part-2-the-time-domain-and-human-hearing

http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/maxdb/maxdb061999.htm

I would just like to leave them out 

@mijostyn 

""Placing speakers against the wall doesn't not affect the 3rd dimension""

😂😂🤣🤣

The only thing I would worry about when pulling out into the room, is being able to sit far enough back to allow the horns to blend. Sounds like you are good to go on that.

@acman3 

A good rule is, speakers 1/3 off front wall, listener 1/3 off back wall. If the wife comes down you can always move the speakers out of the way until she leaves.

I understand that but what about Khorns. They have to be in the corner so there sound array is fixed

@tonydennison 

Moving the speaker away from the front wall does TWO things. It effects the response of the speaker in the lower midrange/upper bass depending on the distance and it you move them far enough away the first reflection becomes an echo. What you are interpreting as the third dimension is that echo. The third dimension is the realization of the depth of the instruments, a marker of the size of the instrument and there location in space. 

Echoes that you produce are distortion 😂😂🤣😅😏 

Echoes that you produce are distortion 😂😂🤣😅😏 

That reminds me of the song by the Doobie Brothers Echoes of love. LOL 😎

Mike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkY3e_Ab5FQ

@52tiger unfortunately I have no experience with Cornwalls.

@mijostyn I love distortion. I grew up on Dischord Records

I listened to Cornwall 4 as well as Lascala and Crites modded Cornscalas I bought them. I liked there sound the best.

I can speak into Klipsch. From Heresy 2, to Forte 3, to Heresy iv, to Cornwall iv currently.

These Heritage Cornwall iv pair are keepers due to their overall adaptation to most all music genre, and tastes in what you or your listeners like best. I currently have some of the best known amps to enjoy with them: tubers Cary SLI-80, Don Has Inspire 300B SET (with Western Electric), Nelson Pass First Watt J2, and currently using the NAD C316BEE. The are all streaming through Bluesound Node version 3 and external Denafrips Ares2, [with a Nakamichi CA-7A preamp].

In a 7 foot triangle, speakers forward 12”, 18”, or back close to the wall, the Cornwalls allow for a lot of positioning fun. Listening fatigue depends on toe in position or none. Bass is found close to the wall… midrange is revealing ALWAYS, and treble highs need attenuation.

However, to find bass, mid, and treble ability to slightly attenuate will produce your best ear, as we all hear differently. I have found the preamp ability to tweak to your liking will be your answer to what YOU want to hear. I praise my Nakamichi 35 year old preamp for my end product of quality enjoyable sound. And to match power with those efficient speakers, the NAD is my best overall amp… never would have thought that. It has a bass and treble knob on the amp, which works great, as you can’t find many NAK preamps like I’m blessed to have found with remote… way ahead of it’s time and sounding like you’re gonna pay $10,000 for nowadays with only half the build quality

@roxy54 

I lol’d…..