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While searching You Tube for Curtis Fuller clips I came across this album that I was never aware of. I listened to all 6 songs and went directly to Discogs and ordered it. Benny Golson, Freddie Hubbard, Woody Shaw. Rythm section; Kenny Baron, Cecil McBee and Ben Riley. Nuff said!!
HUBBARD/SHAW/GOLSON (Time Speaks) - YouTube
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Thanks, I'll buy a copy of Time Speaks :) |
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Outstanding selections of "real jazz" (no noise) LOL
I really enjoyed the JALC slow take on Lenny Kravits' ARE YOU GONNA GO MY WAY! |
Me Moved by Inside Moves! :--))
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Me Moved by Inside Moves! :--)) The Queen Lives!!! A famous heart surgeon in Houston, Texas, had this tune piped into the OR while he performed some groundbreaking heart surgery. Possibly a transplant. After reading that, I had to have the CD. The Doctors later formed a Jazz band called, the ’Heartbeats’. I really enjoyed the JALC slow take on Lenny Kravits’ ARE YOU GONNA GO MY WAY!
I have found that Jazz musicians make ALL music sound better and more interesting. Motown is a prime example. Cheers |
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Hey orpheus how are you? I’m happy your enjoying them new LP’s Curtis Fuller was a great mucisian. I have a few of those "Jazztet" discs. Some were reissued with Art Farmer and Benny Golson as the leaders. I think it was more of a collaborative thing between Golson, Farmer, and Fuller. I know Benny Golson composed "Killer Joe" Serenata - Art Farmer And Benny Golson The Jazztet - YouTube I wonder if they have that TIME SPEAKS album by Hubbard, Shaw, and Golson I posted above on a re-issue 180 - 200 gram vinyl pressing. Its a great album and I think you would agree. |
That album you posted has the "original" Killer Joe.
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Life has never been more complicated; but thank God it's not at home complicated, just everything else.
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Curtis Fuller is the type of musician we can go on and on talking about because he played on so many records. I hope there are others who have knowledge of this great musician and want to continue what will be a very rewarding discussion. Curtis Fuller is such a fantastic musician, that you can pick almost any other great musician, and join him and Curtis together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_9Zg3CSnvU |
I love Curtis Fuller’s playing. Wonderful player with a very impressive discography. One of the many impressive things about this great player is the fact that he got a very late start on his instrument. He didn’t start playing trombone until his late teens and by the time he was in his early twenties he has moved to NY and had taken the NYC Jazz scene by storm. Pretty impressive by any standard. I love his tone on the instrument, not particularly brassy, but dark and velvety instead. I first heard Fuller on this record, when I was collecting anything and all by the great Phil Woods. This record is also a great example of what a great arranger Woods was: https://youtu.be/8_ILn8GDVtshttps://youtu.be/wLv8cPZuBlAThere are many great Curtis Fuller records, but I would wager that if a survey were taken this record would get the most votes for being his greatest. I love the very relaxed vibe of the music on this recording: https://youtu.be/q-zNWpdcxvQhttps://youtu.be/4BRma2HD8dwhttps://youtu.be/gLPXDrxps0Q |
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Blues ette was very nice, I'll have to get it.
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It's been ages since this thread has been in harmony around one musician. Rather than post my favorite Curtis Fuller, I prefer to enjoy the ride, and listen to others favorite Curtis Fuller; please continue this very pleasant journey through the jazz archives of one of our favorite musicians.
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I love Curtis Fuller’s playing. Wonderful player with a very impressive discography. One of the many impressive things about this great player is the fact that he got a very late start on his instrument. He didn’t start playing trombone until his late teens and by the time he was in his early twenties he has moved to NY and had taken the NYC Jazz scene by storm. Pretty impressive by any standard. I love his tone on the instrument, not particularly brassy, but dark and velvety instead.
I first heard Fuller on this record, when I was collecting anything and all by the great Phil Woods. This record is also a great example of what a great arranger Woods was:
https://youtu.be/8_ILn8GDVts
https://youtu.be/wLv8cPZuBlA
There are many great Curtis Fuller records, but I would wager that if a survey were taken this record would get the most votes for being his greatest. I love the very relaxed vibe of the music on this recording:
https://youtu.be/q-zNWpdcxvQ
https://youtu.be/4BRma2HD8dw
https://youtu.be/gLPXDrxps0Q I explored jazz for many years now and i confess that i was knowing Curtis Fuller only by name not much more... I must than thank you for drawing my attention to this supreme craftmanship... He does not play trombone, he voice it to speak with it..... I just listened 3 of his albums in a row.... It remind me of Chet Baker who does not play trumpet either but voice it to speak with it which is very different for me than playing the notes so virtuosively possible it is... Very few artist could speak with their instrument save the greatest .... After all music and speech are linked by the same placenta in the womb of Eve.... Thanks .... |
**** It remind me of Chet Baker who does not play trumpet either but voice it to speak with it which is very different for me than playing the notes so virtuosively possible it is...****
Great comparison. I understand what you mean. They both have a certain warmth in their playing; as if speaking something very intimate. |
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@pjw81563 <<R.I.P. Curtis Fuller. R.I.P. Curtis Fuller - December 15, 1934 - May 8, 2021 - YouTube>> Just got the news at 3:00 AM Saturday, and I didn't get it here. What a jolt. We all have a mental list of ageless giants that could leave us at any moment. I haven't had time to enjoy JFA (or any good music) for several weeks. I opened YouTube to get guidance on a new cell phone, and there it was on the preview screen:
<<R.I.P. Curtis Fuller - December 15, 1934 - May 8, 2021 - YouTube>> Rushed to JFA and saw pjw81563's first post of the very same video. Many Curtis Fuller links followed. Of course I'll return and check them all out. R.I.P. Curtis. Thanks all. |
For my dear Jazzers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKp1HKM_4TY And I Love You So "And yes, I know how lonely life can be The shadows follow me 'n' the night won't set me free But I don't let the evening get me down Now that you're around me" *.* |
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Questions to Aficianados: What do you make of all this. From the "Masterpiece" to the "incapacitated" Bird? From the ’BIRD’ book: Charlie Parker with Strings: The Master Takes (verve, 1947-52) "Still controversial, still growing in critical statue, still among his best-loved recordings. The arrangements by Joe Lipman and Jimmy Carroll are problematic, but the Bird flights are often gratifying and "Just Friends" is a Masterpiece." Just Friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmRkZeGFONgMiles Davis: Collector’s Items (Prestige, 1953) "Bird, near the end, pickled in vodka, returned to the tenor saxophone for Davis’s launch session at Prestige, also involving Sonny Rollins; they barely got through three tunes." The Serpent’s Tooth (take 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M0s29RhR5Esolo order, Miles, Sonny then Bird. Compulsion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsb-O7dhTRIMiles, Bird then Sonny ’Round about Midnight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8neYV9uIkgThe notes attribute sections to Bird that were actually played by Rollins, according to Hentoff. The second session was recorded in 1956, by which time Bird was dead. "The 1956 date is as mellow and relaxed as the 1953 session was tense and neurotic." -- Nat Hentoff Apparently no one thought the 1953 session went well. Was the only time Rollins and Bird recorded together. Btw, Bird bought his tenor sax the same day of the session, and this was the first time he played it. There is always some silly stuff with him. Cheers |
I rarely speak about audio components on this thread because of course it's a music thread, and not one for components, but I'm making an exception because here is something that will benefit anyone who is not aware of the fantastic improvement it makes.
Significant improvements in audio were very expensive before "digital", costing from 1 to 2K for a decent improvement. Digital has changed that; I got a significant improvement for $300, which is unheard of for me.
No audiophile knowledge required, you simply connect this thing to the digital out of your computer, and RCA to audio, nothing else. DAC's are nothing new, but what is new is the quality at this price point.
There are many new good one's in this price range, so you choose which one is for you.
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O10 I bought this DAC 4 years ago. Still works awesome with my Senheiser 650 headphones using laptop windows media player. Read the reviews.
ARC Mk1 - Mayflower Electronics
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Pjw, that's what I'm talking about, it got a fantastic review, which means it makes these links sound ever so much better.
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Pjw, some of the very best records in my collection seem to have Curtis Fuller as a side man and he's on most of the best "Jazz Messengers" albums. I want to expand my collection with the very best jazz available, not just collect records; I want music I can get lost in and let my troubles fade away, it seems that following this Curtis Fuller path is the way to go. This is one of the best jazz albums ever recorded, and like so many of the best jazz albums recorded in this time period, Curtis Fuller is on the playlist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6s00_OIzHESince Curtis was active in what I consider to be the "Golden age of Jazz", I'll be expanding my collection with music I can get lost in. Especially after I add the albums others have recommended that I've never heard. Got some "Audeze" headphones on the way; "Good bye world, I'm on my way to jazz heaven, do not disturb until this mess gets straightened out". |
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One of my favorite pastimes watching ’Urban walkers’, guys who walk around major cities while holding video cameras. My favorite city is London, and quite often these guys pass by Ronnie Scott’s Jazz Club. Not very impressive from the outside, and not in a particularly nice area of the city. But, that may be the norm for Jazz clubs.
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My journey with Nina Simone, began after I listened to the first record I bought by her in 1960; that's still my favorite record by her. While everyone else was most impressed by her singing, I was most impressed by her piano playing. She's a gifted piano player, and I'm a gifted piano listener; I knew I was hearing something different when I first heard her piano; a natural blend of classics, gospel, and jazz that can never be duplicated. I only saw Nina live once, that was in a huge auditorium in Chicago. Our seats were the highest I had ever been inside a building, I almost got airsick looking at the tiny people at ground floor level. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on the perspective; they had the worst storm ever in Chicago, and many people who had good seats in front of the stage didn't show. Not wanting those seats to go to waste, we went down and occupied them. This was a show with Nina, Herbie Mann, and Miles Davis; Miles was first, and he was on when we were sky high, but when it came time for Nina, we were front and center. I hope everyone gets a chance to see their favorite artist up close and personal, there's nothing like it; these people would not be famous if they did not project an "Aura" of greatness, and you experience it when you're up close and personal. I'll call that time "The Aura of Nina". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWaOT7Rvc0 |
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This is one of the best jazz albums ever recorded, and like so many of the best jazz albums recorded in this time period, Curtis Fuller is on the playlist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6s00_OIzHE I go on with this suggested album, which is indeed very well recorded and very good...Thanks very much for this great album.... I love Curtis Fuller singin’g and voicin’g his trombone... I particularly like musician able to make their instrument speak intimately more than making even magnificent sounds sessions together.... They are great musicians that plays witthout making their instrument speak like a human voice...My point is not to make some superior and other inferiors...Not at all.... But i prefer an intimate inner speaking coming from jazzmen especially....Anyway i can appreciate any great musicians for what they truly are: souls in the making and coming together... Coming back to this intimate speech, like the one of Chet Baker or Bill evans, or Curtis Fuller, when they forget to make only music with other musicians but spoke spontaneously for themselves, i discovered this magnificent album of Grant Green with Sonny Clark.... Grant Green spoke with a guitar sound characteristical of those years imbued then for me with some nostalgia.... The style of Clark pianist and Green wed well together....They speak more than plays...They succeed speaking with one another here.... One thing is sure Grant Green is a very great musician....Not only a very great guitar player and not mostly just that...His tone extreme sensibility and his sticking to his internal speech make him an artist living in his own world.... It is less jazz then, when we listen to him, than Grant Green music.... Grant Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDDQsIu9FFE |
mahgister, in these stressful times, music is our drug of choice to relieve that stress; not just any music, but the best music for us.
Back in the old days before "you tube", no matter how carefully we selected our records, occasionally we bought records we could live without. Now we can review the music on "you tube" before we buy, and it's a good idea to do just that.
Another important item is to do what you're doing right now, taking note of the records you like that you heard here, and might consider for future purchases.
As of today, I'm going to keep a notebook by the computer, and write down the records each day that I have selected from here to purchase. I haven't done this in the past, and when I tried to go back, somehow I couldn't find the record.
I hope these tips help in making your musical selections.
Enjoy the music.
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rok2id:
"I wish I could like the current stuff. The technology is better. That should result in better recordings. But what's missing is the essence of Jazz music. They improvise, but they are not improvising over the blues. They are trying to be too 'cerebral' or 'intellectual' too 'deep'. It's a happy party time music. Played is speak easys and cat houses. It's about women and love and sex. The boys from New Orleans would not even recognize this current day stuff as Jazz"
I assume this is meant to be tonque-in-cheek. . .
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Some of my "must have Jazz"...
"The Miles Davis Quintet 1965-1968" box set
"My Funny Valentine" by the same group with George Coleman instead
of W. Shorter
W. Shorter's Blue Note recordings
Andrew Hill's Blue Note recordings
Bobby Hutcherson's Blue Note Recordings
Jackie McLean's Blue Note recordings
"Extrapolation" by John McLaughlin and John Surman
BIll Evan's live Vanguard recordings with LaFaro, Motion.
Chick Corea: "Now He Sings; Now He Sobs"
Chick Corea and Gary Burton: "Crystal Silence"
Grany Green: "Idle Moments"
H. Hancock: "Maiden Voyage"
Pat Martino: "Footsteps, "Exit"
Dexter Gordon: "Go"
Helen Merrill: "A Shade of Difference", "The Feeling Is Mutual"
Sheila Jordan: "Lost and and Found"
Sarah Vaughan: "Live in Tokyo"
Jackie Ryan: "You and the Night and the Music", "Doozy'
Betty Carter" : The Audience with Betty Carter"
Johnny Griffin: "Way Out", "The Little Giant"
Woody Shaw: "Little Red's Fantasy", "InMy Own Sweet Way"
John Coltrane: "Coltrane's Sound", "A Love Supreme"
Joe Henderson: "So Near, So Far-- Tribute to Miles" ,
"Inner Urge", "State of the Tenor"
Clifford Jordan: "Spellbound"
Harold Land: "Xocia's Dance"
Serge Chaloff: "Blue Serge'
Cedar Walton: "Eastern Rebellion" (the first one, with George Coleman)
Art Farmer Quintet: "Blame It On My Youth"
Art Pepper: "The Art of Pepper"
Michel Petrucciani: "Au Theatre Des Champs-Elysees"
M. Tyner: "Time for Tyner", "Soliloquoy", "Sama LaYuca", "Focal Point"
David Murray: "Ming's Samba", "Ballads", "Lovers"
Booker Ervin: "That's It", "Booker and Brass"
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I assume this is meant to be tonque-in-cheek. . . Actually, it was meant to be a statement of fact. Cheers Btw, When did I say this? |
While I'm not as stuck on N'orleans as Rok is, we share Dr. John, and I know where he's coming from.
I'm familiar with all the musicians on your list, except I have yet to get into Andrew Hill.
Since I feel like I'm "short-timing", I don't even bother with any of the latest music. I've known a number of jazz musicians personally (not that many) and all of them were raised in one of our fantastic cities that no longer exist. You grow corn in a corn field; if there are no more corn fields, where can you grow corn?
You grow "Jazz musicians" in cities, if there are no more cities (not places out of a science fiction movie, Detroit for example) where can you grow Jazz musicians?
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I'll call that time "The Aura of Nina". Nina is great... |
Just last week, I was in the city I was born in, lived, loved, and played in, and I got lost several times, it was like; "Where the f--k am I".
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One of my favorite pastimes watching ’Urban walkers’, guys who walk around major cities while holding video cameras. My favorite city is London, and quite often these guys pass by Ronnie Scott’s Jazz Club. Not very impressive from the outside, and not in a particularly nice area of the city. But, that may be the norm for Jazz clubs.
Sometimes I am not quite sure are you serious or just ironical but the truth is that you are probably both, lol. I like the mixture, the way you say it, "could be this" but also "could be that". :--)) |
The OP is correct. Think of the photo, 'Great day in Harlem', taken in 1958. Think of trying to do that photograph today.
Jazz seems to be on a similar trajectory as Boxing. Once, Great fighters were every where, now they are few and far between.
But, Boxing didn't have Wynton!! :)
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Grant Green :thumb up:
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"Where the f--k am I".
The great society, or the results thereof. Cheers |
