Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
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What is she saying ? We better ask Frog, he might know.
Noo, that is for Rok. 
It’s Saturday! But nobody is at the disco, omg, what shall I do with my brand new dancing shoes:

https://youtu.be/JdXecuVl7_4
Dancing is like making love with yourself when everybody else is watching you. This does not apply when you dance with somebody else of course. Because in that case you make love with your dancing partner while everybody else is watching you. When I was younger, I wanted to be a dancer. Funny how life "brings you down", ’cause the older you get, the less audience you need and life is dancing mostly around you, instead of you, dancing around.
I disagree. The older I get the more audience I need , and life and me are dancing around each other. What exactly we are dancing is hard to tell, though.

Although life is dancing around you, you still have all those wonderful memories when you were the "Disco Queen".


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqS4aNi0HQY




          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUID0jSh2Ic



There was a club in Atlanta called "The Candy Store" that had a dance floor exactly like that one in "Saturday Night Fever".
I was involved with my brother in making a live dvd of Scotty at the Capitol Theatre in Macon, Ga. It came out great, full video and audio production crews. Brother did it all at his cost including mastering and pressing about 1000 dvd's. Gave away a lot of them, Scotty sold some. I nor my brother even have a dang copy! Gave away my last one thinking we had more. My very best friend and guitar savant Dwight May plays second guitar with Scotty that weekend. Two shows iirc. As for the cost, brother says "I have friends that spend $40k on bass boats and fishing gear... "
Good Grief, if you weren't thinking on actual goose, I have just googled it.

"What is the point of goose stepping? In a standard goose step, found in large military parades, the pace is done at a quick march and the leg is raised only to knee-height, or even to calf height. The lower goose step improves balance and unit cohesion at the tempo of a quick march."

Something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCLp7zodUiI
Terrible performance by McLaughlin and the rest. That’s not how it should be played, not even close.
And everyone here knows that I am a big McLaughlin fan. His guitar sounds wrong too, it has no character.

I saw Nina Simone, Herbie Mann, and Miles Davis on the same program in Chicago in 1968. It was the same Summer they had that police riot in Chicago, that’s how I know it was the Summer of 68.

Nina Simone stole the show, while Herby Mann came in 2nd place. Miles came in "What tha..?". I didn’t know who he was, dressed in a cowboy leather vest with the long fringes; that’s all I remember, the vest with the long fringes. The music was also "What tha"? This was his first public outing of "Bitches Brew". That album was recorded in 69, and released in 1970, but I saw and heard the music in the Summer of 68.

I was with three other guys, from; Bed-Stuy, New York, Pittsburgh, Cleveland and somewhere in Iowa. The guy from New York explained Miles new music. I thought it was still rough around the edges and not quite ready for prime time.

I’m bringing this up in defense of "Herbie Mann", I think he’s a dynamite jazz musician, plus that, he was dressed in a fashion that my own wardrobe came to duplicate; a light tan suit, brown shirt with big collar outside of coat, and highly polished burnished chestnut brown boots; he was clean.

That was a long time ago and the only music I remember specifically was Miles, and that’s because it was "What tha..."?


Herbie Mann can get into some boss grooves, here’s one;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1tWrztN3F4


and before that "The Common Ground";


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw0ckq36BiA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MLBfibxoeg



Herbie Mann also got into a lot of "funky" popular grooves later on that I liked. There is so much good jazz that we have yet to explore.

Inna, that's interesting.  I found McLaughlin's tone fascinating on that track.  Certainly unusual, but I thought of it as an exploration of something different, not a negative.
Another wonderful performance, beautifully filmed.

Note Paco's use of a capo on the 2nd fret in the opening piece, as a soloist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYYDdn1rRKs

This is very common for flamenco guitarists. I saw so many concerts of John McLaughlin and Paco de Lucia on youtube. I also heard Paco live once, I think it was in 1988, great performance and great sound. His Conde Hermanos guitar was an incredible instrument.
No, by that time Paco could no longer play as he did in the past.
This is a poor quality recording made with a phone but you can hear enough.  Incredible performance, even for Paco, never heard anything like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH-aV9eWP20&list=FLHAEL8Iwz684WaGFx1rQchA&index=171&ab_c...
Paco:

Are we suppose to laugh or cry??  A lot of notes, saying absolutely nothing.

Cheers
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Paco:

Are we suppose to laugh or cry?? A lot of notes, saying absolutely nothing.
What's wrong, dear? Your shoulders are so tight (standing near and making the gentle massage), surely too much computer time...Let me make you some tee (just in case I have plastic cups too). Green or black? Tea I mean...
Some people are very critical. These are the ones that call themselves "Audiophiles" They will spend 2,500 - 5,000 on a pair of 8 foot speaker cables and another 2,500 - 5,000 on a power conditioner. These people that spend this money will swear up and down they can hear the difference in the quality of the sonics with these expensive accessories although I would like to do a blind test using the same equipment with or without and see if this is true.

With all that said If I was a dot com millionaire of hedge fund owner I might be buying these gadgets as well and if you have money like that hey why not?

I love watching this guy Kevin Deal. He has got to be a heavy marijuana user believe me I know.

AudioQuest Niagara 3000 Low-Z Power/Noise Dissipation System – Upscale Audio

Audio Quest "Mythical Creature Firebird" speaker cable. 

One 3 foot long cable - 7,000 or "just" 389.00 per month!

AudioQuest Mythical Creature Series FireBird ZERO Full-Range / Treble – Upscale Audio


pjw, we usually agree on what matters most, the music. However, I don’t agree that some cases, some very expensive audio cables (and other gear) that is well matched to the gear it is connecting does not make a very significant and very audible difference in the sound of one’s system. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a cheapskate and would never spend thousands on cabling, it’s used gear for me; but I have heard what great cables can do in a great system. With the less lofty range of cabling, usually a few generations old, that I indulge in there have been great improvements. Worth it? Absolutely! Are $3k cables worth it? Very personal decision and out of my league. As I said, totally dependent on the quality of the overall system and the care with which it was assembled. Moreover, while I agree that some so called “audiophiles” are pretty clueless about much of this stuff, I know some very reasonable audiophiles who happen to be very good listeners and most tend to also be serious music lovers. Me? I prefer to not attach labels like audiophile or aficionado to myself. That’s just me. Generalizations are seldom a good thing.

Best.

Had this playing while I wrote. Roy Haynes, 86 years old! Astounding.

https://youtu.be/-K43sDNInSg

Well, Frog, you would be in trouble if you heard my Nakamichi deck with three sets of cables from the same company - Wywires. To my regret, I had to keep top of the line Diamond. Used, of course, but still it was over $1k. You would've had to do the same, your hearing should be much better than mine. Big difference. Anyway, if you ever consider Wywires cables, it's only Diamond for you. It is also better than Purist Audio Neptune, by the way.
Up to certain amount, there is the difference.

You ask for very expensive ones? Well, little less noise surely, but the ear that would actually notice that there is the difference - does not exist.

A way to get more money out of people, for sure.

On my cable question, those were the part of the answers from a person with high knowledge in many areas including math, physics...


Mary, it is not that simple and not only less noise. I don't waist money, believe you me.
Now where do I find $4k to get me Accuphase class A power amp ?
No idea but it will come to me, I am sure it will..

Back to music.
It is not that simple, that is true. And I can understand the price of 1000 but 7000? Blind test, please.
Never tried cables that expensive. Among other things, why do you think so much music was poorly recorded ?  Bad cabling. Also bad wall current. If you try to record Amati or Stradivari, to convey what they are capable of, you should have top equipment, including cabling. Nothing happens without signal transmission. And of course it should be analogue tape recorder.
Marija, I am devastated 😊. Please don’t misunderstand, I don’t believe that any of this is necessary to appreciate the recorded music, but it will surely enhance it.  Out of curiosity, have you ever heard a great, intelligently assembled audio system?  Perhaps you think I and Inna are just delusional?  I’ll take that blind test any day of the week.  Actually, I have on a couple of occasions and have proven the point.  
Frogman, digging the Corea/Haynes/Garrett/McBride concert as I type this.  Looked it up, and it happens that yesterday was Haynes' 96th birthday.  A life well lived, that's for sure.
Funny, all my high end cables were trade-ins, and I've stuck with them.  Saved a lot of $$$ thanks to the types who are eager to spend more in almost no time.  My Cardas balanced interconnects are awesome and I paid something like $350 for the pair (and they're pretty long).  They were only months old.
Yes. And....?
Just wondering frogman if you or anyone else here watches his video's on audio gear.
Well after reading frogman and Inna posts I’m inclined to believe that the speaker wires can make a difference. And the power conditioner as well.

I don’t know if they will make a difference with my JBL Studio L890 front speakers. What do you guys think? I was thinking of upgrading my front towers.

BTW frogman I posted that Roy Haynes video about 2 weeks ago. Kenny Garrett plays a really long improvised solo on the alto and Roy's solo kicks a*s
Yeah, blind test no problem. But for Frog we will make it a little more difficult. He will be listening from another room, with all doors open, of course. As a side note, good system should maintain its character when listened to from another room. Well, unless the whole place is not acoustically weird, I would add.
Out of curiosity, have you ever heard a great, intelligently assembled audio system?
Nope, I live in a cave, therefore never heard of it.
Sorry I missed that two weeks ago, pjw.  Great stuff.  
Re Kevin Deal: no, that was the first of his videos that I watched.  I did buy a set of tubes from him a couple of years ago for my Manley monos.  Sixteen of them; tubes, that is 😊.  Ouch!  I do use a PS Audio power regenerator and that makes a nice difference as well.  

Re cables: You may have noticed that I generally don’t get involved in audio talk here.  For me, that’s the hobby part of music listening and I keep it separate from the more important music to a large extent.  However, it can add a  great deal to the enjoyment of the music.  What do you use for an amplifier and for CD player and what are you using for cables now?  I might start by trying a couple of different interconnects between CD player and amplifier/receiver to see what kind of difference the right cables can make.  

Please don’t misunderstand, I don’t believe that any of this is necessary to appreciate the recorded music, but it will surely enhance it.
I did not say that it cannot enhance it, the point was that after certain level it does not make any sense. You can't tell me that you hear a difference with 7000 worth cable. Ok, you can but it is just that I choose not to trust that. Where is the problem with that? :---))
Marija, that was an honest question; no offense meant. I like audio, but for me it is a distant second to the music. 
There is no problem with what you say.  To suggest a blind test implies that you don’t believe there is a difference.  It may not make sense to you and I to spend that much, but the difference can be very real.  If some one is fortunate enough to be able to spend, say, $80K or more on a fantastic audio system, $7K for the right cables makes a lot of sense.  Btw, caves can have great acoustics.