Keegiam, I can't get too much "Night In Tunisia", that most certainly was one of the best, but it seems whichever one I'm listening to at the time is the best; here's another one;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fy_EmfXT34
Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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Keegiam, Nica was one fantastic woman. She was presented in the news as a floosy when "Bird" died in her apartment, and since I was quite young when that happened, naturally I believed what I read. It's only since me and Rok purchased her book "Three Wishes" did I discover what an amazing person she was; check her out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonica_de_Koenigswarter |
Keegiam, be sure and let me know what you discover. In the meantime, I'm trying to find an unusual version of "Panonnica"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8PHk1aA8Uo&t=302s |
Definitely very unusual. In case anyone is wondering why the piano sounds so weird, it’s a tack piano Harris is playing; a piano altered to sound (in this case) kind of like a harpsichord. BTW, Harris was a friend of Monk and actually lived with Monk in the Baroness’ pad for a while. Pretty good credentials for doing justice to the tune as well as being a great player in his own right. https://youtu.be/y79ax9ekqM4 |
Just received this new Christian McBride Big Band album which was released this past April. It had gone under my radar but the entire album of mostly jazz standards is excellent. Not a bad song in the bunch. Great guitar and Hammond B3 playing by Mark Whitfield and Joey DeFrancesco PERSONNEL Joey DeFrancesco – organ Mark Whitfield – guitar Christian McBride – bass Quincy Phillips – drums Frank Greene, Freddie Hendrix, Brandon Lee, Nabate Isles – trumpets Michael Dease, Steve Davis, James Burton – trombones Douglas Purviance – bass trombone Steve Wilson, Todd Bashore – alto sax Ron Blake, Dan Pratt – tenor sax Carl Maraghi – baritone sax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9iM_6Fv9-M&list=PLAym87g-oy7re6344JCSqzoeYxWIx7ZS9&index=5 |
I'm glad you're honest Keegiam; I didn't listen to it all the way through, so maybe I thought the same thing, but Monk plays 100 different versions of all his tunes, so you might like one of the next 99. I always recorded my LP's to cassette (you know this was a long time ago) and I was riding past grass, trees, and flowers when this came on the speakers; my memory takes me back to that time and place when my life was peaceful and perfect. (that lasted about a minute) When I hear this, I automatically go back to that time; if a few perfect minutes is all I can get, I'll cherish those minutes. |
I thought I had posted this before; it seems that we both are quite impressed by "Kokoroko". This is the first new jazz that's impressed me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MlAiVw-n5Q |
**** This is the first new jazz that’s impressed me. **** That is quite a statement. Honest question. Where do you, O-10 draw the “new” line? New in 2020? New since 2000? Since we’re being honest. FOR ME, Kokoroko is enjoyable and fun enough. Most impressive new Jazz? Not even close. I’m not even sure I would call it Jazz. Just me. |
Heard these new things on the great WBGO recently: https://youtu.be/V7f3b2298gQ https://youtu.be/_lnFPO4KsLs https://youtu.be/FZ7ERshGaH0 |
2 more voices. Superbly well recorded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThegxU5yGzM&loop=0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf_S2l3Y_lM&loop=0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_62aOb4j3c&loop=0 |
Rok2id, a.k.a. the world’s foremost Jazz authority I do not brag about, or flaunt my preeminent status in the world of Jazz. I let my Jazz do the talking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT_Zs5FKDZE Lee!! Cheers |
Frogman, it was definitely jazz you posted, but it fits your and Wynton Marsalis's definition of jazz. I recall maybe 30 years ago, before Wynton made his first LP as an independent musician, and he had been a sideman with Blakey; it was suggested that he might be the new worlds best trumpet player. He was so good that few people objected, I agreed that he was certainly a candidate. When his first LP came out, I couldn't wait to get to the record store, lucky I didn't get a speeding ticket. Back home I nervously put the record on with anticipation of some of the best jazz I had ever heard. (not quite) After all, this is his first LP, I thought; the next one is going to be better. (this is not a personal comment about Mr. Marsalis, this is about jazz and his concept of jazz) Next thing I know, he's the major spokesperson for jazz, (who made this johnny come lately the major spokesperson for jazz?) The same people who makes all our decisions, the major media. All of a sudden he's telling us what is and what is not jazz, and it's carrying major weight. Every "made man"; card carrying, bona fide established jazz musician objected to this, but the media said "you're just jealous" so that band played on until even the jazz radio stations heeded his words, and all I began to hear on the radio was "Stereotypical" jazz. Frogman, the fact that I consider many of your selections "Stereotypical" isn't exactly news. I've been listening to jazz seriously since 56. Your selections would have sounded boss to me back in those days; the riffs were new, but now I have heard some of those same riffs too many times, I want something new. From my point of view, it seems that you and Wynton don't think it's jazz unless it has some of those same old riffs. According to you and Wynton, "Kokoroko" might not be playing jazz, but according to "Wickipedia" it's jazz/ Afrobeat. Personally, I don't care you if you call it "hamburger hash", I want a second helping. |
I'm convinced that our sense of aesthetics in music is dependent to a degree on who our ancestors were 200 years ago maybe, and for many of us that's unknown, but known or unknown, you still have those genes. When I was child, my parents took me to the museum; I looked at a painting and asked them when did we go there. It was a painting of a castle on a lake in Switzerland. They looked at me strangely and explained we had never been there. The more I looked at this painting, the more I was certain that I had been there. The older I got, the more that memory faded, but I still felt that I had been someplace that looked identical to that painting. I'm saying that you are born with memories of places that you have never been before. If that's so, it also means that you are also born with your ancestors sense of aesthetics in music. Of course there are also a multitude of sociological factors that determine our taste in music. The bottom line is that it is foolish for one man to argue with another man in regard to his sense of aesthetics in music. |
https://64.media.tumblr.com/1273e7a304d12108bc0b04a777d28af2/tumblr_mydt5iPFJj1r7r8e0o1_400.jpg Illinois Jacquet, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald and Ray Brown with friends, Bop City nightclub in New York, 1947 https://youtu.be/XWj_a4NGS_I Paris Blues Call and Responce with Louis Armstrong, Paul Newman and Sidney Poitier |
If that’s so, it also means that you are also born with your ancestors sense of aesthetics in music. Primitive thinking. Think of all the musical greats whose off spring can’t play a lick. DNA transmits potential, and that potential is not the same as the parent’s. May be greater or much less. Cheers |
Rok, I was only referring to music that we like and dislike; how what one person thinks is beautiful, is very unattractive to another; Classical music affects me like someone scratching on a blackboard most of the time, And I will never forget when our rich cousin decided there should be culture in the family and took us to the opera; I was in pain the whole time we were there, my genes just were not right for that sort of thing. |
Keegiam, classic Chick Corea tune. I think I know what you mean, but “Spain” has no time changes at all. After the slower introduction and the tune starts there are no time changes at all. It stays in 4/4 the whole time. The feeling of time changes is due to the very syncopated and “choppy” melody. If you haven’t heard it, the original is classic. https://youtu.be/sEhQTjgoTdU Here it is: https://www.scribd.com/doc/217761461/chick-corea-spain-pdf |
Rok, I recall whenever my newly acquired friend in the Air Force wanted me to come down to his cubicle, which was all the way at the end of the barracks, he would find this hill billy country music on his transistor radio, and turn it up real loud. He got the biggest kick out me charging down to his cubicle and telling him to turn that &*%^# music down, or I was going to put that radio where the sun don't shine. He would just laugh his head off, and I would ask him; "Now just what do you want?" |
O-10, even after all this time it is a mystery to me why it’s not possible to have intelligent disagreement with you, without you feeling that you have to respond with at least some degree of personal negative comment. So you think it’s Jazz and I said, I’m not so sure. You draw the genre line at a different place than I. SO WHAT! Did I say it wasn’t good? No. As usual you miss the forest for the trees by leaning on the “label” aspect of it all; something that ultimately doesn’t matter. Who cares?! Regardless, let’s see......hmm.... Wynton?, O-10?, Wynton?, O-10? Wynton?, O-10?, Wynton?.......... yup! Btw, Donny McCaslin “stereotypical”? Seriously? Give me a break. https://youtu.be/cWGvsyeayFk |
frogman, it definitely settles into 4/4, but the beginning is way over my head time-wise. I did get into Return to Forever way back when but soon stopped putting it on the platter. I think I relegated it to the fusion category, which, while I respected the levels of composition and musicianship, was so frenetic I didn't often play it. (You may recall my fondness for Larry Coryell, but I never listen to 11th House). When I get my SOTA/SME back online, I'll have to revisit my ECM Corea vinyl. |
O-10: May I suggest Beethoven’s 9th. Esp the 4th movement. Some folks consider it the artistic height of Western Civilization. Try it, You will like it. My current, greatest ever, for this week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfwHKKOQMQk Cheers It's like Jazz in many ways. |
frogman, we may be on different wavelengths. The piece I was referring to, posted by acman3, is "Antidote" not "Spain." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCEUc5pdy_w "Spain" is pure 4/4 and has its roots in the classic "Concerto de Aranjuez." I can't maintain 4/4 time listening to "Antidote." Thoughts? |