Funny, indeed; hysterical, in fact. Love Wynton Kelly. Thanks!
Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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*****...about ’present state of affairs’, one funny saying comes on my mind...it says that ’pessimist is the educated optimist’...***** The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Alex seems to be a truth teller. The truth shall set you free Cheers One more: Conservative -- A Liberal who has been mugged Liberal -- A Conservative who has been arrested |
*****No other than the great Duke Ellington said that he didn’t like the word “jazz” because it is so limiting***** Jazz is probably limiting when speaking of Ellington. He composed music that was not Jazz, and he did not call it Jazz. I hope you are not comparing these noise makers to The Duke. Cheers |
It doesn't matter whether it's an objective call or a subjective call; a right call or a wrong call, there is just too much good old jazz, that's conducive to my sense of taste and hearing, that's out there, for me to spend any more money on new jazz. Everything that Alex posted needs to be in my collection; I wont be trying to sell it the next day. Alex, all Junior Mance needs is Ray Charles; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3617vhFr_lY |
and another thing, Evolution of Jazz, and other things: Man, homo sapiens, evolved from single cell creatures that came out of the Oceans. Why aren't we called big amoebas, instead of human. We have a common origin. Same with improvising noise makers, and Jazz players. The differences are just too great. They no longer have anything in common. There is no longer any audible connection. Cheers |
Swinging amoebas? 😄 Kinda silly comparison/analogy if you ask me and with all due respect. I realize you won’t agree and that you think he says these things because of political pressure (Not!), but your man Wynton himself will tell you that the earliest roots of jazz are the influence of things like the European music tradition and African rhythms; with a dash of things like Irish reels and Middle Eastern chants thrown in. The musical soup; or, more geographically appropriate, the gumbo. Those are the amoebas of jazz; the common origin. Those happened way before Jelly Roll. Homo sapien has been around for about 500, 000 years.....jazz, for about 100. We are still calling homo sapien “man”. Talk to me in half a million years and let’s see where “jazz” is at then; and “man” for that matter. **** Same with improvising noise makers, and Jazz players. The differences are just too great. They no longer have anything in common. There is no longer any audible connection. **** I don’t want to believe that you really can’t hear any “audible connection” and that you honestly believe they “don’t have anything in common”. If you really believe that then either you don’t want to hear it or......So, in order to not do what happens in this thread all too often: lack of focus, chest thumping and talking in circles while usually not being really sure what the other person is saying, which “noise makers” exactly are you referring to? Surely, you can’t be referring to ALL the examples of new jazz posted here. Are you saying, by extension, that there is no audible connection between your fave Ludwig and Igor? Same principles apply. Please post a couple of new things that were previously posted that you consider to have no audible connection to classic jazz. Make your case so that it stands (in court) 😊 ——— The Ellington band having fun. **** He composed music that was not Jazz, and he did not call it Jazz. **** Some wonderful footage in this clip sequence. Sounds like jazz to me: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw_MpMTbj7I You recently mentioned a possible comparison of Duke’s and Basie’s band. Lots and lots to mention re differences in overall vibe as well as the specific details. pryso is a Basiephile and I would love to hear his as well as everyone’s thoughts on this topic. I think it would be very interesting and might expose some to this really important music. To get the ball rolling using this clip here’s an interesting and unusual specific. The sound of Duke’s reed section was very “bottom heavy” (a good thing in this case). The great Harry Carney’s presence in the sound of the section was very prominent with his huge sound and he even sometimes had the written “lead”; very unusual in big band wrtiting. Duke (and Strayhorn) orchestrated very much with each player’s musical personality in mind. |
Recently posted on this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax4K-3UZOzg&app=desktop Jazz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abUBJlLHBOI I posted this years ago, greeted with boos and hisses. Cheers |
*****but your man Wynton himself will tell you that the earliest roots of jazz are the influence of things like the European music tradition and African rhythms; with a dash of things like Irish reels and Middle Eastern chants thrown in. ***** Funny how all these so-called 'influences' only apply to black music. No mention of the blues, spirituals, or other African-American 'influences' musical or otherwise.. Using your logic: The first musician was a person that hummed to himself or beat something that could be called a rhythm on a log in Africa. Therefore ALL subsequent music came from this guy. You can hear the influences in LvB's 9th, if you listen very closely. Cheers |
Wynton should stick to this, and leave Jazz history to me ....oops I mean others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUOTq_xGWpE Cheers |
When the Ganges and the Mississippi meet, we get the New Delhi Delta blues; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez-oEsg1uw0 |
Rok, this is what I mean about lack of focus. Of all the possible examples of new jazz that have been posted here you choose as an example that Charles Lloyd clip; something which is more in the category of world music/fusion; or something like that. That type of music would be the last thing I would think of as an example of new jazz although I suspect I know who posted it. So, what does it prove? I don’t suppose the music of Brad Meldau, or Fred Hersch, or Pat Metheny, or Seamus Blake, or Joe Lovano, or Dave Douglas, or any number of others crossed your mind? |
Very funky tenor player, McMurray. I like his attitude. New to me, Thanks! Was listening to this today and it occurred to me that this tenor player has not been even been mentioned here (I think). How is it possible that John Gilmore has never even been mentioned? One of Trane’s influences and what a great tenor sound! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H6JFiXeoqcA With Blakey and Lee Morgan. Wonderful footage: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s53kWQSWidI |
John Gilmore and "Sun Ra"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR0oSpRA_B4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBzO-vferY |
Thanks for the clips, O-10. I remember the first time I heard “Enlightenment” and being shocked at how “mainstream” and beautiful that cut is; not at all what I was expecting from Sun Ra. Ra was without a doubt one of the most unusual and interesting personalities in jazz; many would say a genius. He always kept you guessing. That is Pat Patrick featured on baritone on the cut, btw, Gotta love his sense of humor: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7seJ8O13a4 |
Questions To The Frogman: Sonatas & Partitas Solo Violin2017 | Hybrid SACD - DSD by Julia Fischer and J.S. Bach Fischer AND J.S. Bach?? I notice this on a lot of classical listings. Almost as if the composer is playing along side the instrument player. I guess it does make some sense. Is this something new? If so, why the change. Cheers |
frogman You can really the similarities between J Gilmore & Coltrane on that live cut you posted both in tone and technique. I really only knew Gilmore from SunRa'S band. I am surprised that orpheus10 likes Sun Ra considering how much of Ra'S music leans towards the avant garde ( mid 60's forward). You are correct when you listen to much of Ra's music of the late 50's and early 60's you can hear how much closer it is to mainstream and how much debt he owes to those who came before him. |
Another side of John Gilmore I've been enjoying recently; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UhG1MFBqjU&list=PLgM5cFpwRInmgrxd3HPBijHBckkA6sZCO |
For those of you too young to get the humor that frog referenced with Sun Ra, here's the Disney original. Dumbo and Timothy got into some bubbly and this was the result - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcZUPDMXzJ8 Several Disney songs have been "adapted" by jazz musicians, including Miles and Brubeck, but I never would have guessed Sun Ra. ;^) |
Sorry to break the Disney thing, and the Gilmore thing, but I will forget this if not played. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZZ8V2AFUq0 |
Fun. Reminded me of this for some reason. From one of the strangest films I’ve ever seen; and animated to boot: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X-KChYBFiB0&index=2&list=PLU4p_ynZ6GCtCC-i1-oMD3ylWu6z9DYSM&am... |
Funny thing frog, the first time I saw Triplets when it was released I thought it was innovating, fun, and had great music, But when I saw it again about a year ago I didn’t think nearly so much of it and became bored near the end. Still, lots of sly references. Everything from Harpo to Django to Josephine Baker to Fred Astaire. And that was just in your promo segment. |
The music is wonderful. I found it strangely dark the second time around. Courtesy of my son: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h61QG4s0I3U |
In harmony with the links that have been presented; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZHzDwK18sQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xlnXKKHIfw |
The cartoons are great...swing too.... one more classic cartoon...the song was hit as well https://youtu.be/xNEYfIUDkh8 |
Nice clips, mary_jo. Really liked the David Benoit clip. Really nice feel. Not very familiar with his stuff, so glad to hear it. The tenor player on the classic Pink Panther is the great Plas Johnson. One of my favorite tenor tones. https://youtu.be/_9FVQVVbjUY |
All afternoon I've been listening to some of my best jazz on old LP's that I hardly played before, and I made an amazing discovery; Santana who is not considered jazz, has some boss jazz on his "Welcome " album; here is some of Flora Purim's best work; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD8-A_bgsg8 |