Jazz for aficionados

Thanks for asking. My area is ok, but there are 20,000 other people in this city without power. Still iced in.

I wanted to ask the same. Have just seen it on the news. Can't believe this is actually happening. 

I am glad you are fine.

So I do not have to cut down some trees and send them over to you to warm you up?

Anything by Paul Desmond, like Desmond Blue, and Take 10
Anything by Joe Sample, like Invitation and Hippies on a Corner

Recently found New Zion Trio, and The Vampires (Jazz group not heavy metal group) on Tidal.

Enjoy

Was in "play something you haven't played in a long time" mode this AM.

The Original Gerry Mulligan Quartet with Chet Baker (2 CDs)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7C8vvu0KYXtjYTfWlN7Tt4oMLCN6bkzo

@grey9hound 

Thanks for the info on the CD6007.  This will be my 5th Marantz player, loved them all.  I notice the availability date has been extended a month and the price increased by 100 dollars.  :(

Cheers

I hope your ok down there in Texas I have been watching the news and have saw some very unsettling videos.

Thanks for asking. My area is ok, but there are 20,000 other people in this city without power. Still iced in.

Texas is the only state with it’s own electrical grid, and it is not under Federal regulation. Usually, the major energy challenge down here, is the hot summers. The power generating and distribution network equipment, is not protected from, nor designed to operate in, this type of cold.

The price we pay for cheap energy.

Cheers

Hey acman did not know you were down that way as well.

Stay safe while your listening to the "ice picker"

I just love the tone of the Telecaster.

(33) 07 I`m Evil Live Stock Roy Buchanan #1975# Vinyl Rypl - YouTube

Pjw, Worst part was no Jazz during blackout!

Hasn't been this cold in Dallas area since 1989. Didn't have issues then. Developers building something on every spot of dirt they see, and masses moving from all over the country.

 We will need to upgrade the power grid and get rid of the people not keeping their equipment prepared.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz6LbWWqX-g

Het rok I hope your ok down there in Texas I have been watching the news and have saw some very unsettling videos.

It seems like the "unexpected blizzard" caught the affected communities off guard. I don’t know where your located but a lot of places got hammered.

We are expecting 8 inches of snow here in NY today but we are prepared for it. Our HWY departments are fully stocked with plows, sand and salt. And our electrical power facilities are also prepared.

@rok2id 

I have the Marantz CD6007 on order

I have owned that exact model . Probably one of my favorite sounding players. It presents with a slightly warm, ,but detailed weighty sound IMO
Never analytical or dry sounding.
Great bass drive ,with a slightly vivid or forward sound as compared to the older Marantz cd players.
It will draw you in ...Congrats on the purchase . Enjoy 

Miles fronting Laura Nyro?  Sounds familiar.  I was first blown away by Larry Coryell was when he was fronting for James Taylor.

Summer day, lots of lawn area behind the covered amphitheater seating.  We were playing Frisbee, and I didn't even catch the intro announcement.  But within 5 minutes I was wandering down to the stage because I was stunned by the solo acoustic I was hearing.

I already had plenty of "Eleventh House," but I had no idea Coryell was doing this jaw-dropping solo acoustic stuff.  I eventually saw him perform around 25 times.  May he RIP.  He enriched my life immeasurably.

Alex, interesting you brought up Sonny Criss.  I posted "Crisscraft" a couple weeks ago.  In case you missed it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzeZZtPlip4

Speaking of sax...and the players called Sonny, two of them, not mentioned so often

Sonny Red, album 'Out of the blue' from '59.-'60.

https://youtu.be/dUd9vE_Ug6k

https://youtu.be/L-LwKvALyZ4

https://youtu.be/NxQ--y4jMGs


Sonny Criss, album 'This is Criss' from 1966.

https://youtu.be/ex6ztdnXCRU

https://youtu.be/KVDt3fDxkxI

https://youtu.be/UgjgEPYxU0s

Today's Listen:

Chick Corea  --  SOLO PIANO STANDARDS

The tracks were recorded in Japan, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland and Denmark.
Lot of Monk.  Recorded 1999.

Notes  "....the communication of music lives absolutely far above all other human differences, such as differences in language, religion, race, culture, age, sex, politics, etc, etc...."

That may be true for Western music traveling the world, but I see no evidence of the reverse being true.

monk's dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7FCfGqAhg  

brazil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhDrKtdqyag  

blue monk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97CTP1vjutQ  

oblivion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_89jqcq_rs 

'round midnight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxCL4cuHhHc  

Cheers

@The Frogman:

Thanks for the info.  Concise, Precise and comprehensive as always.  I was listening to the Sony Classical recording of Pictures..  It was recommended by the Classical guru in Brooklyn.  I am surprised by the number of his favorites I have.   Some even after "However!!"

Thanks

Cheers 

Nice account, skyscraper. Thanks. Miles opening for Laura Nyro?!

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvxWibFr0wiIkBE7JktUnLm4EGfpPVfdT

**** where does the impetus for instrument development and creation come from? The composers or players. ****

The composers.  The players would often help in the design of the instruments by offering advise on things like practical key mechanism requirements based on hands experience, but the impetus is mostly the composers.  Although, most of the great composers have, at least, rudimentary understanding of the possibilities and limitations of all orchestral instruments; part of formal training.  

The saxophone is a particularly good example for the answer to an interesting question.  It is a relatively new instrument invented in the mid 1800’s by the Belgian instrument maker Adolph Sax.  He invented the instrument due to demand from composers for an instrument that would bridge the “gap”, timbre wise, between the woodwinds and the brass instruments in an orchestra.  As a solo instrument it added a very interesting and unusual (for the time) color to the tonal palette available to composers.  His original vision for the instrument was for an entire family of saxophones spanning a wide range from contra bass to sopranino.  In all, he designed upwards of ten different saxophones in different keys (ranges).  Most became obsolete relatively soon after and the most popular (practical) remain in use today: (sopranino), soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, (bass).  

After an initial flurry of interest in this new instrument on the part of composers, interest waned and it wasn’t until its use in American popular music at the turn of the century that its use really took off.  Re “Pictures”:


”The Old Castle” from Modest Mussorgky’s “Pictures at an Exibition” is probably the most well known and arguably most beautiful orchestral saxophone solo in the literature.  Keep in mind that the piece was composed as a solo piano work by Modest Mussorgsky in the 1870’s and it was subsequently orchestrated a few times by different composers in different versions.  It wasn’t until the early 1920’s that Maurice Ravel also orchestrated it in its most well known and arguably best version in which he gave the solo melody in “The Old Castle” to the alto saxophone.  The PO/Ormandy recording is of Ravel’s orchestration and it is one of the best recordings of the piece.  

Speaking of Ormandy, Philadelphia Orchestra and the saxophone.  Another beautiful (my favorite) orchestral saxophone solo can be found in the first movement of Sergei Rachmaninov’s “Symphonic Dances”.  Like many well known European composers, Rachmaninov left Russia due to the political upheaval taking place in Europe in the 1940’s.  He composed the work after arriving in America and dedicated it to the Philadelphia Orchestra and Ormandy.  The recording by that orchestra and Ormandy is hreat and generally considered to be “the one”.  The recent Sony Classics reissue is fantastic and with excellent sound.  Check it out.

Thought I’d an share an unexpected experience hearing jazz fusion music for the first time. A girlfriend at the time, wanted to see an upcoming Laura Nyro concert at the Fillmore East. I got tickets for the show, which turned out to be a double bill with Miles Davis as the opening act. This was in June 1970 and we just graduating from high school. At the time I was completely unfamiliar with jazz, and thought it might be interesting to hear a bit of what you’d think of as "cool jazz", before Laura Nyro came on.

Well what a shock when Miles band, including a young Chick Corea on piano, and Keith Jarrett on organ among others, came on that night and started playing "Bitches Brew". I had no idea what we were listening to. It was overwhelming, and difficult to make out even the patterns of the music being played, as if it was a loud. cacophony.  What a trip. .I can still picture a young Chick Corea playing his keyboards in that maelstrom.

Luckily they recorded an album from Miles’ Fillmore East shows. An upon hearing Chick had passed away, I listened to it again, remembering seeing the then young Chick sitting at the keyboards, alongside Miles Davis playing his trumpet. It’s hard to believe that was fifty years ago. RIP Chick, and thank you for the music you created, and the many albums of yours I’m fortunate enough to have.

Mike

pjw, nice find.  Now I gotta figure out if I'm one of those "audiophile guys" before deciding to say anything further.

Questions To The Frogman:

Listening to 'Pictures at an exhibition', Philadelphia - Ormandy, and noticed the Saxophone.   My question is, where does the impetus for instrument  development and creation come from?  The composers or players.

Thanks

Cheers

I'm snowed in
It's 8 degrees outside
My latest Jazz gem has been 'out for delivery' for three days
Jazz is once again under noise maker attack on the tube
FM radio is out

Where could I turn, but to Da Blues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9IIDE_45Pc 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Gt46aX9Z4  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpC69qIe02E  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGIE28q3fEA 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0aIjyX7vwI 

Cheers

Pharaoh’s Dance:

Pharaoh sure had a lot of Stanima!! That tune is almost as long as a Coltrane solo.

Corea on drums?? That’s the beauty of this kind of ’music’, the players can just pick up and ’play’ any instrument, and it all still sounds the same.   Miles on Bass?

Cheers

So, Rok, my advise is to skip sacds if you plan to stick to jazz music. Since you listen to classic music as well, I guess that is where your funds should be be better spend

I agree.  I do have quite a few classical SACD discs.  I don't think Jazz benefits that much from SACD.  Most of the small group stuff was well recorded originally, no 'improvement' needed.

I have the Marantz CD6007 on order, and I was just thinking about 'bang for the buck' by getting a similarly priced Blu Ray player instead.  I think I'll stick with the Marantz.  

Cheers

Good advice from Alex. Another satisfied Oppo 103 here. In my video surround setup it offers excellent resolution. Compared to the EAD DAC/transport in my audio only setup it sounds a little thin, but excellent in every other way.

**** Btw, I have two copies of Bitches Brew, because it is an important recording.****

😊

Speaking of Chick Corea (and Sinb....I mean, Miles 😉)

https://youtu.be/WtORTuLJw7o

https://youtu.be/Ec_gYe03cX8

Who knew? :

https://youtu.be/6ztq0-2DJfQ

Few years back I bought sacd player, Dcs Puccini with clock and when I listened to native dsd, it was better than anything I've heard on red book
.
The Dcs has a 'switch' that can 'turn' pcm on dsd, when listening cd's.
Since allmost all my music is jazz from '55-'65 and the prouduction is what it is on those recordings, I really could not hear any significant difference between those two mods.

So, I thought, I should get music I like on sacd and started to buy sacd editions, mostly mastered by Analogue productions,only to realise (I know, it was obvious, but had to try it myself ) that recordings of 'yesterday' simply cant sound the way the new ones can (perhaps on some other format, but not on digital, at least not on one that 'regular' folks can buy)

So, Rok, my advise is to skip sacds if you plan to stick to jazz music. Since you listen to classic music as well, I guess that is where your funds should  be be better spend

All of the "audiophile" guys cannot listen to this video and say nothing.

It is what it is and thats all it is 

(30) Miles Davis - So What - YouTube

Never heard it in quad. Might have to get a decoder some day.

You wont be disappointed 

Pjw, I have a original vinyl quadraphonic of Live Evil l stole from my Dad. It was mint because he bought it and hated it.

Never heard it in quad. Might have to get a decoder some day.

Rok my Oppo is the 103 as well. Went bonkers awhile back

That's the reason I am reluctant to put big money into any disc player.   The can become paper weights in an instant.

Glad to hear there is still support for the Oppo.  Mine is 6 years old with no problems so far.  My SACD player, Marantz SA8001, is 16 years old.  Time to start planning.   Every so often I get the error message "can't play", so I think it's days are numbered.

Cheers

Rok my Oppo is the 103 as well.  Went bonkers awhile back - no audio from any of the RCA outputs.  Oppo has a flat rate service fee of $99 (incl. return shipping).  They replaced the "decoder board" (I used to know what stuff was inside audio gear) which was apparently a big enough deal that they gave the unit a new serial number.  I was surprised to have trouble with it, but all is well now.

Given that my turntable should be ready this week, I plan to be doing a lot of A/B-ing soon.

Well if you are content with the Oppo, that answers my question.  I don't own the Sony but it is under consideration.  I have the Oppo 103.

When seeking info on gear, I always seek the opinion of music lovers.

Thanks

Cheers

rok I have an Oppo UBDP 203 which plays all formats and was 599 new.

I also bought the UBDP 205 for 1199 and sold it 6 months later unopened box for 3k.

I used to have a Denon dedicated SACD player but I sold it when I switched to Oppo so I never did a side by side comparison. 

My Oppo is fine and I have read about the Sony you have and all the reviews are excellent so I think your fine as well.

Although there's always them damn "audiophiles" that pay 500 for a pair of RCA interconnects SMH.....

Sine you mentioned SACD, I have a question.

Is there any difference in THE SOUND you hear from a SACD DISC being played by a blu-ray player as opposed to that same SACD DISC being played by a dedicated SACD player?

The difference in price is about 800 dollars, U.S. 

Sony UBP X1100ES   $500,    vs   Yamaha CD-S1000   $1300

Thanks

Btw, I have two copies of Bitches Brew, because it is an important recording.

Cheers

East is East, West is West, and never the twain shall meet.

Having purchased Miles Davis’ Bitches Brew in a new Japan release of quadrophonic and stereo on multi hybrid SACD (both new remasters/mixes) in 2018 I had listened to it a few times and it is like listening to a new album. The Japanese seem to have got it right.

The new stereo version is way better then any of my older BB recordings and the quad knocks everything else out of the park.

Having said that in January 2020 the Japanese re-issued a newly mastered stereo and quadrophonic version of MD’s Live Evil also on multi hybrid SACD and again the sonics are outstanding in both stereo and quad form.

So when they sent CD Japan sent me an email announcing the re-issue/re-master in September 2020 of Herbie Hancock’s Head Hunters in both quad and stereo I had to pull the trigger. I ordered my copy last week and I will give a review when I get it.

For those who enjoy other genres then jazz I also ordered a Japan re-issue/remaster of Santana’s Abraxas which is my favorite Santana album and this too is a multi hybrid SACD in quad and stereo.

I cannot wait to hear Abraxas’ opening 2 tracks - Singing Winds Crying Beasts - Black Magic Woman in quadrophonic!!

Yes rok I know Bitches Brew and Live Evil should not even be labeled as "Jazz" and I agree. Some call it avant guard I call it good music. I personally don’t put either album in the "noise" category.

Glad you liked those pieces, Keegiam.  Yes, Leon Bates.  I agree with your description of them.  I have the ECM recording by Chick and surprised it’s not on YouTube.  Here’s a favorite by Chick that sometimes goes under the radar:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kVRzddQFvRgfEQvoNfBxbn1xN_RUpCJf8

Today's Listen:

Regina Carter  --  RHYTHMS OF THE HEART
special guests include, Kenny Barron & Cassandra Wilson

Regina is no Stephane, yet, but she is pretty good.

Verve Label.  1998

oh, lady, be good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdBITIHl0SM  

papa was a rolling stone  ---  yep, that one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtcdufMPNCY  

mojito
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IcCJojIE0Y  

mandingo street
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tirkszbuPNo  

skeeter blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJGjBqrocXY  

Cheers

Frogman, thanks for sharing these Chick Corea compositions I knew nothing about until this morning.
 

All 20 pieces are beautifully composed and, it seems to me, melodically complex and largely unique. Only a handful of them seem to be intended for children to enjoy. Most of them seem better suited for adults to reflect on childhood itself. My personal favorite is No. XIII.

The artist on the collection you posted is Leon Bates. I did find this live performance of Chick playing 12 of the pieces. There is a studio version of him playing all 20 on ECM, released in 2008. This live performance is from 1982:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPT6CrYzN8M&feature=emb_err_woyt

I was listening Latimore more than several times today and will still. Either you know how to aim deep or we are simply on the same level. Not that important but coincidentally and not that long ago I was in a "role" of a man from this song so I'm experiencing it in more intensive way. This is not the first time that you match with a song that what happens currently in my life. I like the feeling. 

Still some of my favorite Chick Corea.  Beautiful and deceptively simple compositions:

https://youtu.be/X2zpbq8mr7w

**** What do Jazz and Classical have in common? They use the same instruments and notes. ****

You’ll get it one day; I’m sure (hope....I think).

Btw, all genres use the same notes (pretty much). So, what’s your point?  However, you’re getting warm 😊

Mary Jo, that's really deep soul music.   I was listening to this today as I drove around doing errands.    Sort of in the same vein.  Southern Soul, which I suspect is a lot like Croatian Soul.    
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112BIpVq3Zk

Happy Valentine's day to you also.

Cheers

You and me...

You and me at the dark end of the street...
https://youtu.be/tzcdNwIkmYA

Happy Valentine's day, boys!

Happy Valentine's day, Rok! 

Those two items competed with the "Dashiky", such as the one Pharoah Sanders wore; I don't think so for jazz; sounds more like the "Beetles" to me. I never owned either item.