@asvjerry, you must have had a mess in there for them to use a metal valve. Most now use a flexible ring that folds up and we deploy them by catheter, no cracked chest.. Has your defibrillator gone off yet? Lots of fun. People do not realize what that is like when it fires. It can be entertaining until the docs get the sensitivity adjustment right. I really wanted a either a Volvo 1800 or 911 when I was a kid. Had to settle for the 911.
@tomic601, you better watch out! I'm one of those short people. My favorite Randy Newman line is, " God can make you tumble. God can make you turn. God can make you overflow. But, God can't make you burn." He was referencing the Cuyahoga river fire. My favorite RN song is, You Can Take Your Hat Off.
@barbaramoriggan, Yes, absolutely. Your back is under very little stress on a bike because your arms are supporting it. The Neo 2 is a real hoot.
@jerryg123, The air cooled motors have a raspiness missing in the watercooled units. You can still get one in the Scrambler models, 1100 cc! The Italians have a passion for motors everyone else can't seem to match. Somehow they always manage to make them sound right. Listen to a Fiat 500 Abarth. Little sucker sounds like it would tear your throat out. Just listen to a Duc at idle. Only the Italians can concoct a symphony like that. (desmodromic valve train)
Okay, just one more off topic/on topic comment for audiophile/old car guys:
(goes back to the early 90's) The Sunbeam Alpine has solid lifters that sound like a broken Singer sewing machine at cruising speeds. Then, I remembered I had a can of Acoustical Magic material that I used to dampen the vibrations of turntable platters on hand. So, I cleaned up the inside of the aluminum valve cover, coated it with this stuff and cured it in the oven for a couple of hours.
After reinstalling the valve cover and going for a test ride, the exhaust note(s) were louder than the sound of the lifters. A much improved driving experience.
And, yes, audiophile/car guys CAN successfully mention audio tweaks AND car tweaks in the same sentence.
@nonoiseMust have been somenoise emitted from the exhaust of your project car? fyi- I used a Webber downdraft for the blow through turbo set up on my Alpine. Removing the choke, substituting plastic floats for the brass ones (they collapsed under pressure), rejetting, and filling in a few gapping holes did the trick.
@mijostynall in good fun. Tall sizes hard to come by, we are even. I am from N. Ohio, watched the river burn……twice… And to this day, there are idiots who think we don’t need the EPA…
@mijostyn, the actual valve is designed like a stent, collapsed until in location. Then it's 'deployed', expanding and pushing the aortic valves' 'petals' open and taking over the process. The most annoying part of the whole surgery/recovery was waking with the breathing appliance still in my mouth & throat.
Which was dry, so the damn thing was 'stuck' to the walls of its' location....
Although 'still in the dark' of anesthesia, I was able to point at the device and register my annoyance...
"Oh, he's back with us....we'll have that out in a moment, 'K?"
I think my response got 'interpreted' properly...."Now would be great..."
I think they kept me for an extra day or 2 because I was a 'refreshing change' in the cancer ward they had room for me in. Most left it covered up entirely...
...and I'm the noise at the end of the hall with a laptop playing Spotify and teasing the aides, RNs', and the parade of specialists and MDs'.
Since I was considered 'young' to receive TAVR (new at the time), I was 'interesting' and considered 'novel'....
...must have been my 'choice of music'...;)
Follow-up surgery for the pacer/defib entailed a nice young lady asking if I'd like to be a part of a study of the Boston Scientific unit, limited to 500 people in the U.S.
100 cardiologists nationwide with 5 patients each, to study the effectiveness of their new device. The pacer makes 'tiny adjustments' if it registers inconsistencies....the defib likewise will make a more subtle approach to 'kick-start', as opposed to the 'donkey-kick' to the chest....
I like the concept of subtle.... *G*
I live with a bedside device that looks like an early network box. It has a cell dongle that's in com 24/7/52 with BS, and go in for a 15 min. IRL system check 2x/yr.
They don't advise as to how I'm doing, other than I've not had to be defib'ed up to now...
So I'm partially Borg with onboard Bluetooth. It is a bit weird to see ones' readouts on a laptop 10' away without the usual wiring and sensors applied.
@asvjerry, I think we can avoid testing that. Good that you got the TAVR. I avoid using medical terms when talking to lay people. I think most still get the "donkey kick version" but, I am just a family doc so what do I know. I do not have any of the soft kick versions in my practice. I do have three Bicuspids in the practice that I am watching. They will probably need valves eventually. It is a very common congenital defect like cleft lips. Waking up with an endotracheal tube still in place is considered bad form. Must have been a nurse or a resident running the case. The anesthesiologist bounces back and forth between several rooms making sure things are running well. It is less expensive than running an anesthesiologist in all the rooms. I have been replaced by nurse practitioners. They expect me to be a supervisor, not what I went to medical school for. Anyway, when I had my wrist fused I got screwed at both ends. My throat was sore and raspy for a week and I peed razor blades for three days, residents at both ends. The lesson here is avoid teaching hospitals whenever you can. Unless you have a really uncommon problem stick with community hospitals.
@mijostyn(We be wayy off topic now, but I'm real good @ that.... ;)...)
Down with that 'we will Not test That' function, Yes....I've only had a gun waved near me once a very long time ago, and fortunately I was Not Involved. *whew*
I was happy about TAVR as well, I'd advised any and all that I thought would give a * about it that I would likely be an utter prick if involved in the rehab of having my chest wrenched open. TAVR is a walk in the park....*S*
The Boston Sci implant is/was a new device at that time, ergo the study. I was pleased to be included in it, 'spearheading SOTA' in my own small way.
I've actually seen a commercial for it awhile back; if anyone is a candidate for it, push towards it..👍😁
If the 'defib' function fires, I'll let you know what that's like. So far, no 'events'... ;)
(You can 'go technical' on med terms with me, I was reading at a college level at an early age. And I've a vested interest in what I'm being subjected to...
"Oh, that drug does....*boing*...That....*LOL*)
The specialist that initially treated my suggested that I'd need a 'valve job' eventually, so I'd kept in mind that I was just an organic '57 Chev in the long run....
"Reseat my valves, Baby!"
Hey, being a GP is a Good Thing. Not enough of you of late, and mine is a good one. Sarah is used to my 'left of centerline humor' and saved my lunch once...
"Go to the ER NOW! Can you get there on your own?"
Yup, just watch... ;) And I did....the troops were waiting with a 'chair...
Local med center is a short mile away, and specializes in pulmonary, so I couldn't be in a better place unless I lived there....
I think I surprised the attendants re the trach tube....that, and apparently they'd nearly 'lost me' in the OR, so I can accept a higher level of concern overall.
My 'valve thing' was an utter surprise, and is part of the family DNA.
My father passed from heart issues (was called an 'athletes' heart' at the mid-/60s'), my brothers' first child didn't survive, my nephews' first needed cardio surgery to pull through....
...and brother was mis-diagnosed by his MD, and dropped dead in the home hallway. Same thing, caught too late. 😔
Upshot on my end:
I take a lot of non-recreational drugs, including blood thinners. Being 'thin-skinned' due to age, if I damage self I leak like I've gotten knifed.
Fortunately, I clot quick...which is why the thinners...
I work with saws and other 'high probability of severe damage devices' but still have all appendages in place. 👍😁
Had to have my right little toe exorcised, but unrelated to work issues.
But *sigh*, I can only count to 19 now....*L*
Well this thread took an unlikely turn - didn't expect to see cars as a subject of discussion.
Best sound comes from a V12 (I miss my old Lamborghini!), next best from a straight six (sold my MGC but still have a BMW Z4MC), and after that maybe the rather blatting loud but unrefined V8 (though I still own them as well) and then the poor four cylinder (still own three of those - one makes 375 bhp out of a 2.0 - but the sound is always a bit inferior to the others mentioned.
This one (I drive it in summer) sounds decent as well, although a V6)
@asvjerry, it sounds like you beat the odds. You can try recreational drugs now.
@wspohn, What is that? Not a Ferrari or a Lambo. 6 cylinder? That's rare. I thought only the Dino did that. I agree, 12 cylinders make the best sound for an automobile but IMHO the best internal combustion noise comes from an L twin Ducati. The worst comes from my snow blower which I shall know intimately in about 24 hours.
For any New Englanders out there, good luck tomorrow. Warm up your generators!
@mijostyn....you're assuming I stopped...;) As for 'odds', I ought to play the Lotto.
Then I could afford a barely 'street-able' version of below....*evil S*
'Combat traffic' demands a 'weapon of choice'...😏
@wspohn...well, it's a beautiful car, even if 'it's only a 6'.... ;)
When it comes to 'road racket', here's my 'go-to', even if only in my dreams..
A 'street-able' version that kept the progressive shifter...nothing like 'small & nimble' and more HP than God would trust me with...
(...and it's likely it's an Exige vs. an Elise....Exige are hardtopped, where Elise are droptops....)
Getting wet flurries here in AVL now....grid thy loins, gentlemen.
The Hayabusa is a very expensive very neat engine, but there are many lesser modern engines that work well in street cars.
My daily driver has a 2.0 4 cylinder The sound they make isn't as nice, but it puts out 375 bhp and 375 Tq and gets 30 mpg when you keep your right foot out of it. (That is more than stock as I can never restrain myself from 'improving' things.)
And this is the race engine in one of my vintage race cars.
I think we can agree that the exhaust notes of Italian cars and bikes are the Stradivarius of internal combustion engines. However, I'd like to introduce my list of
The WORST-SOUNDING cars I've owned.
#1: '74 Mazda RX3 (showroom stock)
Bad: On a good day this car sounded like a convoy of 2-stroke dirt bikes with exhaust restrictors added.
Worse: Broken Apex seal. The audible equivalent of a dragging a Port-a-potty thru a construction zone while making a batch of microwave popcorn.
Bad: The "good news" is the car did achieve the goal of "not sounding like a showroom stock Corvair". However, the car did attract the attention of local law enforcement (ticket read: "Loud and excessive noise due to improper exhaust and rapid acceleration") while also having the attribute of rejecting the attention of 18-24 year old females. I'm just thankful that the "man card" didn't exist in the late 60's. If so, I would have been wrestled to the ground and had it forcefully removed.
Worse: Automatic car washes in the late '60s operated by latching on the car and pulling it thru stationary washing equipment. During such an event I felt a vibration and heard a loud "thump". Checking the rear view mirror allowed a full panoramic view of the bulk of my 3-day-old exhaust system lying on the ground. While, admittedly this is about as close to the car would ever come to mimicking the sound of a full-on race Porsche 911, it wasn't the result I was going for.
Even worse: 17-years old, freedom and a couple of quarts of Coors can lead to good times. They can also lead to you backing your car off the road into a ditch and burying the exhaust tips into a dirt embankment. The sound of car transitioned from spots car(ish), showroom stock, suffocation, and death. As they say: "What's the most valuable tool in your tool box?". Answer: "The one you have with you". I can report that the "tool we had with us" (beer opener) can successfully excavate enough material to dislodge the tips of a Corvair Trombone exhaust from a dirt embankment if time is not a factor.
Below is a really cool exhaust note you would rarely encounter. Jim was an absolute genius when it came to cars and aerodynamics. A world class driver, a Cal-Tech engineer, a curious mind and a very real desire to kick Europe’s butt results in something like this!
He once said that the suction created enough static downforce that it exceeded the weight of the vehicle. In theory, it could be stuck to the ceiling. Much of what he learned developing this car enabled him to develop his Penzoil Indy car that harnessed the venturi effect without the need for a power source like the chainsaw motors on the 2j.
Funny ,I just turned 70 on Elvis Birthday.Im 6' ,200,I try and walk and walk and walk...up to 15 miles a day.I got Gist cancer in 2018,had a 2 1/2 lb tumor removed from the lining of my Stomach...Did I notice no ,I just thought my stomach felt funny ,but I learned becareful what you take like over the counter acid relief bills.This was the wed before Thanksgiving, no Turkey for me that year.i spent 3 weeks in the Hospital then 3 weeks in a rehab which yeah it's a freaking Nursing Home all the cold ladies were trying to pick me up ..lol..I lost 50 lbs and had to take a medication that cost over $10,000 a month.Good thing I got it taken care of for Free.One pill a night for 36 months and it made you into a Gas making machine...and theres nothing you can take to relieve it.OMG gas bombs, like i would never wish on anyone..I'm feeling good now ,but you never know what can happen in life....But I'm not as strong as i once was and lifting 100 lb.speakers is over.My Doctors were wonderful and I got to see the birth of my Grandaughter Lily ....so life is good other than the coronavirus which cost me and still is money..But walking is what helped me recover.
@jerryg123Jim is an amazing guy to talk to. He had so many ideas and still does but his eyes turn red when talking about a bunch of whiny prigs when recalling the Can-Am days. Supposed to be no rules, unlimited only by imagination...until you dominate LOL.
@ghasleyI did some work for him or the museum in the 90’s fabricating some one off ignition components to get 2 of the cars running for the Tour De Elegance at Monterrey Laguna Seca er Weather Tech Raceway. They brought me along in case they needed a chap with a spanner.
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